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13% of Illegals admit they vote.

Nostra

Governor
So much for "Illegals don't vote".


As we always knew, California and American elections are filled with fraud and corruption. Thanks to a new poll, we now know that approximately 13% of illegal aliens vote. Since they are already criminals, stealing ID’s or using phony ID’s. lie to get welfare, steal jobs—why not vote as they to lose. Since they can not be deported or jailed, they have nothing to lose. Obama is protecting these law breakers.

http://www.capoliticalreview.com/capoliticalnewsandviews/poll-13-of-illegal-aliens-admit-they-vote/
 
Being registered isn’t the same as voting. Many just probably misunderstood the question when asked whether they were registered.
Being registered to violate the law isn't the same. Basically what you are saying is you cheat...but that cheating is ok. Those that violate our laws and every illegal has, should be punished by the law. That means you too, for trying to harbor criminals from punishment.
 
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Being registered to violate the law isn't the same. Basically what you are saying is you cheat...but that cheating is ok. Those that violate our laws and every illegal has, should be punished by the law. That means you too, for trying to harbor criminals from punishment.

No, I’m pointing out that they probably were asked whether they were “registered to vote” and misunderstood the question. Perhaps they thought they were being asked whether they were registered in their countries of origin, perhaps they interpreted it as a question about whether they were in the process of trying to establish citizenship, etc.
 
No, I’m pointing out that they probably were asked whether they were “registered to vote” and misunderstood the question. Perhaps they thought they were being asked whether they were registered in their countries of origin, perhaps they interpreted it as a question about whether they were in the process of trying to establish citizenship, etc.

That is B.S. Get a real answer next time. I almost fell asleep reading that one.

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total bullshit. seriously. even trump voters should know how fake that is. remember trump assigned that assclown to conduct an investigation into illegals voting in 2016 and the clown had to resign without any report after he realized how baseless the claims were? the voting in states are run by state electors, representatives of each party. There are a lot of really really red states, including Texas and Florida, where the number of illegals is higher than all but Cali. And yet mere handfuls of voters voting who are illegally here in this country, and most of those were by those who had green cards and THOUGHT they could vote. you are being played again by a lying piece of shit fake news site using a lying piece of shit fake poll. Anybody can CLAIM 13% said something, where is the number of illegals caught voting in these red states who would love to catch them doing it- that is the proof of how little it happens. you trump stooges are so gullible!!

now for some truthiness to go with your right wing bullshit-

Fact-check: Did 3 million undocumented immigrants vote in this year's election?

Were there 3 million illegal votes from undocumented immigrants in this year’s presidential election? Well, that’s what some websites are saying.

"Report: 3 million votes in presidential election cast by illegal aliens," reads a headline on InfoWars, a conspiracy website ran by Alex Jones. The article has been shared via Facebook more than 48,000 times when we last looked.

Other websites also have touted this report, including Milo, TheNewAmericanand FreedomDaily.

So is there any truth to it?

Well, we don’t know for absolute certain. But the report is actually a tweet, and the person who authored the tweet won’t explain how he arrived at his figure. If that isn’t reason enough to be skeptical, independent experts and historical analyses suggest it’s highly suspect.

In other words, don’t buy it.

Where’s the report?

As evidence of its claim, InfoWars’ headline refers to a report from VoteFraud.org and tweets from Gregg Phillips, whose Twitter profile says he’s the founder of VoteStand, a voter fraud reporting app.

There is no report from VoteFraud.org, however, and Phillips told PolitiFact he is not affiliated with that website. The information comes from tweets made by from Phillips on Nov. 11 and Nov. 13.

Here they are:

We have verified more than three million votes cast by non-citizens.

We are joining .@TrueTheVote to initiate legal action. #unrigged

— Gregg Phillips (@JumpVote) November 13, 2016
Completed analysis of database of 180 million voter registrations.

Number of non-citizen votes exceeds 3 million.

Consulting legal team.

— Gregg Phillips (@JumpVote) November 11, 2016
Phillips would not provide any additional information when asked by PolitiFact. He said he has chosen not to release more information because he is still working on analyzing the data and verifying its accuracy. Phillips would also not say what the data is or where it came from, or what methodology he used.

Phillips said he would release the information publicly once he is finally finished.

According to his page on LinkedIn, Phillips is a former finance director of the Alabama Republican Party. He also served as executive director of the Mississippi Republican Party and was managing director of a super PAC that supported Newt Gingrich’s 2012 campaign for president.

Plenty of reason to be skeptical

While we have no idea how Phillips arrived at his claim that 3-million noncitizens voted, people who have made similar claims in the past have cited a 2014 report that claims 6.4 percent of non-citizens voted in 2008 and 2.2 percent of non-citizens voted in 2010 midterm congressional elections.

Other research contradicts Phillips’ tweet.

News 21, a national investigative reporting project funded by the Carnegie Corporation of New York and the John S. and James L. Knight Foundation, found just 56 cases of noncitizens voting between 2000 and 2011.

A report by the liberal Brennan Center for Justice at New York University School of Law found that most cases of noncitizens voting were accidental. "Although there are a few recorded examples in which noncitizens have apparently registered or voted, investigators have concluded that they were likely not aware that doing so was improper," reads the 2007 report.

States that have tried to purge noncitizens from voter rolls, meanwhile, have found even government data lacking.

In 2012, Florida Governor Rick Scott’s administration started an effort trying to crack down on noncitizens voting by comparing driver's license data against voter rolls.

Through this process the Florida Department of State created a list of 182,000 potential noncitizens that had voted. That number was whittled down to 2,700, then to about 200 before the purge was stopped amid criticism that the data was flawed given the number of false positives — including a Brooklyn-born World War II vet.

Ultimately, only 85 people were removed from the voting rolls. State officials began to pursue a second attempt at a purge in advance of the 2014 election but then abandoned that effort, too.

Richard Hasen, an election law expert at the University of California, Irvine, called Phillips’ claim "fake news."

"There is no credible evidence I have seen to show large numbers of noncitizens voting in U.S. elections anywhere," Hasen said. "The idea that 3 million noncitizens could have illegally voted in our elections without being detected is obscenely ludicrous."

Our ruling

Reports claim 3 million "illegal aliens" cast votes in this year's election.

The articles point back to tweets from Gregg Phillips, who has worked for the Republican Party and has a voter fraud reporting app. But Phillips will not provide any evidence to support his claim, which happens to be undermined by publicly available information.

If Phillips does release a more detailed report, we will consider that information. But for now, this claim is inaccurate. We rate it False.
 
If 13% ADMIT to voting illegally, the number is probably three time that.
13% haven't. you are believing a bullshit poll on a bullshit fake news site. do you really think you are going to get illegals to even admit they are here illegally, much less that they voted? come on, this is bullshit. the site you used is full o' right wing shit-
 
If 13% ADMIT to voting illegally, the number is probably three time that.

If some republican hack claims he polled people who admitted to voting illegally it probably means 13 people...not 13% and the people polled were all republicans pretending to be illegal immigrants.
 
13% haven't. you are believing a bullshit poll on a bullshit fake news site. do you really think you are going to get illegals to even admit they are here illegally, much less that they voted? come on, this is bullshit. the site you used is full o' right wing shit-
Do you really think I care that the facts in the OP have you on tilt?
 
Do you really think I care that the facts in the OP have you on tilt?

At least one study quoted in the top post has been demolished in a link I provided. As to the poll of a few hundred people is there a way to turn that into facts? Nah.
 
No, I’m pointing out that they probably were asked whether they were “registered to vote” and misunderstood the question. Perhaps they thought they were being asked whether they were registered in their countries of origin, perhaps they interpreted it as a question about whether they were in the process of trying to establish citizenship, etc.

So you think illegal aliens are dumb. Figures.
 
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