2016? Taking everything the Right said from 2008-2012 as true...

[GordonGecko]

(A massive leap, I grant. )....how does a Republican win the Presidency in 2016?


After all, according to the Right from 2008 to two mere months ago, President Obama is (was) "the worst President in the history of the country...worse than Carter....utter failure....economy worst since the Depresssion due to his policies....etc.,etc, etc"

So....if they can't win against THAT, the most horrific and pejorative characteristics available?....how can they possibly win against even Joe Biden as the Dem Nominee?!?!?

And given so many of them now are saying "We're no longer the majority" (taking a page from loufa fan Bill O'Reilly on Election Night on Fox)....again, how does a Republican win the Presidency in 2016?!?!?

 

[Drumcollie]

it is actuallty a good point...answer let Obama tax people the way he wants too.

 

[Union_Jack_1972]

Running someone like Huntsman or Christie would be the first step.

Now I am sure you will mock this response because it does not fit into your agenda here, but the GOP has to move moderate and take someone that will put the Tea Party in their place. I know you and your side believe there is no decent GOP candidate that can beat anyone on your side because let face it you're partisan as can be, and refuse to accept the possibilty a Republican can win.

Now before you say how can Huntsman or Christie garner the support without the Tea Party, well tell me how did Romney get the nod, or how about McCain seein' neither are the perfect Tea Party candidate?

The difference is the next GOP candidate has to stick to his ideals, and not sell himself out to the Tea Party, and Christie along with Huntsman are the only two worthy of that ticket, well maybe Jeb, oh do not start on Jeb because he's not his brother, and more like the father...

 

[GordonGecko]

it is actuallty a good point...answer let Obama tax people the way he wants too.

Drum, you certainly laid on the pejoratives against the President.....and still Romney lost.

So, if your Beloved Party couldn't beat "the worst President in history" in 2012....what chance do they have in 2016 when he's not even the candidate?!?!?

 

[GordonGecko]

Running someone like Huntsman or Christie would be the first step.

Now I am sure you will mock this response because it does not fit into your agenda here, but the GOP has to move moderate and take someone that will put the Tea Party in their place. ...

On the contrary, I wouldn't mock the GOP becoming more moderate....I merely find it hard to believe they WOULD become more moderate.

Jon Huntsman as GOP Nominee in 2016....I might vote for the guy, if just to shake things up again AND to "reward" the Republican Party from pulling itself out of the Abyss of Insanity that it's in now.

 

[Union_Jack_1972]

Dude don't lie because there is a difference between bein' insane and stupid, and I damn well know if you had a choice between Huntsman or Biden, well Biden has your vote. So might mean no, and I know it. I swear to God you really believe I am a rightwinged nutter don't ya!?!

The truth is the insanity in the GOP is not insanity but retardation. The Tea Party suffer from retardation and lack of commonsense. They live their daily life with their heads in the damn sand, and believe that if they do not get their way destroying this fine nation is the alternate answer for them, well plan B.

So for the GOP to get back to their root Boehner, McConnell, and other GOP members need to grow their balls back, stand up, and tell the Tea Party to sit down, shut the [Unwelcome language removed] up, and have a damn coke, yes Eddie Murphy from Raw to Bill Cosby...

In the end the GOP has two choice and that is stay radical and minority, or adjust, move to the center, and support more candidates like Christie, Huntsman, and Hagel, and less of Rubio and Rand Paul... Hell I wish Ron Paul would take over the GOP...

 

[connieb]

They have got to put up a moderate candidate. The moderates tend to be the higher wage earners. They tend to be self supporting. They tend to be more educated. BUT - they will and are growing weary and essentially they will have to be energized. A few years of higher taxes and then a promise for a cut for them should help in that arena.

Run all the stupid Rick Perry's you want or who was that other idiot from PA? Run some of those guys and let them show themselves as the idiots they are. Accept that you will loose in the primaries in the heavy religious states to those kind of loonies. And, don't give it another thought because in the end when you have a candidate those religious loons will still vote rep over democrat. So, let them vent their frustration in the primaries and make sure that you spend time villifying the left in the general election.

Obama is charasmatic and that proves to be a big issue. He also garners a lot of support in the African American community that historically have not had high voter turn outs. But, the turn outs have been better when they can vote for a black man. I doubt you will see the same high numbers despite the best efforts of pollsters if their choice becomes again Old White Guy A or Old White Guy B. Same with the youth vote. Its still cool and neat to vote for a charismatic educated interesting man of color. Not so much his old white sidekick. So, I think the left is going to loose a lot of interest and momentum just by changing candidates.

And, Biden is an ass. he just is. Everyone knows he is, even the left. If he is the candidate, the right as a shot. I would have said prior to her health scare if it was against Hillary - the right would loose. But, now she may not even be up to it and concerns of her health will be front and center. But, Biden vs Huntsman or Christie... I would think the right has a chance. Christie appeals to the every man. And, he even appeals to rednecks. There isn't much of a difference between a fat loudmouthed NJ Boy and a fat redneck in Alabama. Pretty much just accent and location.

But, a lot can change in 4yrs. If we hit another slump. If people feel like we are being too taxed, if there is another terrorist event or a big scandal of some type... etc.