Tell us everything that Biden has already done.
63 Republicans vote against resolution expressing support for NATO
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Your post: "Empty gestures and words that mean nothing".
Don't know that I can comfortably say that he's ready to go. I do think it's past time for him to act on Ukraine beyond empty gestures and words that mean nothing
Once again you would rather deflect and defend those who, lemming like, follow Trump and his view of reality, rather than actually discuss the points in my post. Biden needs to rally domestic and international support to do more.
I can only guess at motives...but in my opinion his announcement that we would not commit military force was intended to take the air out of Putin's claim that Russia was threatened by NATO. He was clearly attempting to paint this as an unnecessary war between Ukraine and Putin. Do I agree with that as a strategy? No. I do see the argument.
Why wouldn't Poland allow Ukrainian pilots to come get the Migs? Don't know. Why wouldn't Germany allow the Migs to fly to Germany and from their to Ukraine? Don't know. I think they could easily have been trucked into Ukraine and just don't put it in the news. But then I believe their are issues we are unaware of. Are the planes actually operable? The Polish air force isn't using them. Have they been maintained or does someone have to do some work to make them usable? I don't know.
One additional issue...you've picked out one sentence in my post to focus on. Your entire reply has to do with that one sentence which doesn't even actually say that you made the statement that Biden has done nothing...when actually you have, but so have many of the right wingers here.
Sorry...but you're so completely missing the point that I find it sad. Are your priorities really that partisan?
God of War
Governor
Declining to be NATO's bitch doesn't make a Rasputin flunky. What is disturbing is that China is literally 10 times worse than Russia in every way and yet Dems do and say nothing. In fact they praise the system. Why?
Really? Those were Trump's choices? Either agree to be "NATO's bitch" or tear the organization apart?
Who is praising China's system?
You seem to be saying ignore Russian war crimes in Ukraine because China, not at war with anyone, is so much worse. Pretty bizarre logic.
God of War
Governor
How did Trump tear the organization apart. Be specific.
no. you can readily find that.
no, i would rather ignore the lemmings, who offer no thing, and address the current administrations inadequate actions
odd, again. partisan has nothing to do with it. simply pointing out reality, while you deflect and bemoan party again and again....presumably to obscure...is the issue. i could care less about trump and the gop. i think ive said it enought times...yet..right back to it you go again and again and again..
partisan? look at yourself.
I didn't say he did...I was pointing out the extremes...you stated his only choice was to be NATO's bitch...what ever that means.
His comments certainly led Bolton to think he was going to take the US out.
A guide to Trump's past comments about NATO
President meets with NATO's chief, but has been fiercely critical of the 68-year-old military alliance since the start of his campaign, having previously called it "obsolete"
www.cbsnews.com
Trump has far too much influence to ignore. He is the front runner among republicans for 2024. He is the constant source of divisive comments about the election, Ukraine, NATO...
There are a substantial number of Americans who follow and regurgitate his nonsense.
I would love for him to go away...but that isn't going to happen.
He has a lot of influence that is true. He may be a front-runner today. But I don't see him running in 24, but we'll see. There are a lot of people that are a constant source of divisive comments about the election, ukraine, and NATO
For example people who constantly whine that the results of the election are still relevant, or spend their time elevating the comments of those who constantly whine, as if they were important at this point other than as a deliberate distraction. The election was concluded and verified, it's results finite.
Or for example people who would constantly point at the election in Trump as a means to obscure and deliberately distract from our wholly inadequate response towards Ukraine
Or for example people who would constantly point at the election and or Trump as if it bore some sort of relevance to the inertia that is NATO. I am pleased however to report that NATO continues to diligently protect empty sky that is in the way threatened by Russian incursion
God of War
Governor
I didn't say he tore it apart. You did. And it didn't happen. So you're lying on Trump.I didn't say he did...I was pointing out the extremes...you stated his only choice was to be NATO's bitch...what ever that means.
His comments certainly led Bolton to think he was going to take the US out.
A guide to Trump's past comments about NATO
President meets with NATO's chief, but has been fiercely critical of the 68-year-old military alliance since the start of his campaign, having previously called it "obsolete"
Fact is NATO did not respond to Trump. They responded 3 days after Russian invaded Ukraine. That makes us NATO's bitch.
Colorforms
Senator
Right, because he was busy denying the Ukraine jets and giving Russia a pipeline so that they could fund their war.
Where did I say he'd torn NATO apart?
Right, because he was busy denying the Ukraine jets and giving Russia a pipeline so that they could fund their war.
And while Trump gave Ukraine 39 Javelin launchers and 200 missiles, Joe gave them 20,000 Javelins and Stingers...that doesn't count.
I know what's been done. You ignore what Biden has done.....so you can bitch and moan. We're all tired of that whining from you.
Now you're defending Putin. That's so trumpie/fascist.
PNWest
America's BEST American: Impartial and Bipartisan
Don't think that that is ever gonna stop. You really have to twist yourself into a pretzel to claim that Biden and the (D)s are the ones not doing enough.
God of War
Governor
If you think that is defending Putin YOU'RE exactly the kind of citizen Putin and Xi have in mind. You are NOT what we Americans are. Feel free to leave. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
