A bit much..

[Boltlady]

Beat someone and get out the next day. Rob somebody and don't be held at alll. Murder somebody and you might get a few years before they let you out. But for heaven's sake do not be a conservative.

• AMERICAN NEWS
• Sep 5, 2023

BREAKING: Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio sentenced to 22 years over Jan 6 riot
Tarrio was not in DC at the time of the riot.

 

[sensible don]

You know I knew the right wing cultists would be upset with this sentencing, I mean after all it was just a picnic.......... with gallows and violence and death

 

[Zam-Zam]

Beat someone and get out the next day. Rob somebody and don't be held at alll. Murder somebody and you might get a few years before they let you out. But for heaven's sake do not be a conservative.

• AMERICAN NEWS
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• Sep 5, 2023

BREAKING: Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio sentenced to 22 years over Jan 6 riot
Tarrio was not in DC at the time of the riot.

I'm not a fan of Mr. Tarrio, but I do wonder about our justice system sometimes. There are those who have committed murder in this country who got lighter sentences than 22 years.

Mr. Tarrio, however, made the mistake of threatening the powers that be, and they don't like that. An example must be made...

 

[PhilFish]

Beat someone and get out the next day. Rob somebody and don't be held at alll. Murder somebody and you might get a few years before they let you out. But for heaven's sake do not be a conservative.

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• Sep 5, 2023

BREAKING: Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio sentenced to 22 years over Jan 6 riot
Tarrio was not in DC at the time of the riot.

He needed to be present in DC to plot seditious conspiracy?

No.

 

[middleview]

I'm not a fan of Mr. Tarrio, but I do wonder about our justice system sometimes. There are those who have committed murder in this country who got lighter sentences than 22 years.

Mr. Tarrio, however, made the mistake of threatening the powers that be, and they don't like that. An example must be made...


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He made the mistake of threatening the electoral process. He and his mob threatened democracy itself.

 

[middleview]

I'm not a fan of Mr. Tarrio, but I do wonder about our justice system sometimes. There are those who have committed murder in this country who got lighter sentences than 22 years.

Mr. Tarrio, however, made the mistake of threatening the powers that be, and they don't like that. An example must be made...


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The sentence for murder depends on circumstances of the crime. Chauvin was sentenced to 21 years for murder. The three who killed who killed Ahmaud Aubrey got life. Alex Murdaugh got two life sentences.

 

[Zam-Zam]

He made the mistake of threatening the electoral process. He and his mob threatened democracy itself.

That's what they intended...I'm not sure how big of a threat they actually constituted. Does anyone believe that the government was in any serious jeopardy of being toppled by a "mob"?

 

[Zam-Zam]

The sentence for murder depends on circumstances of the crime. Chauvin was sentenced to 21 years for murder. The three who killed who killed Ahmaud Aubrey got life. Alex Murdaugh got two life sentences.

And then there is the case of Alexander Valenzuela:


HARRIS COUNTY, Texas (KTRK) -- A 22-year-old man has been sentenced in connection to the shooting death of his 16-year-old girlfriend, according to court records.

Alexander Valenzuela was sentenced to 90 days in the Harris County Jail and six years of deferred adjudication community supervision. He has also been ordered to attend an Intermediate Sanctions Facility for cognitive behavioral treatment for at least 45 days, court records show.

Valenzuela was initially charged with murder in the death of Ciana "Cici" Castro in April 2021. Her mother, Dulce Rodriguez, told ABC13 she was shocked by what she called a "light" sentence and explained she was so surprised when Judge Jason Luong handed it down on Dec.13 that she had to be quieted. Castro's father had to be escorted out.



Complete text: 16-year-old killed: Man gets 'light' sentence, avoids prison time in 2021 shooting death of girlfriend in northwest Harris County - ABC13 Houston


There may be a flaw or two in the system.

 

[middleview]

That's what they intended...I'm not sure how big of a threat they actually constituted. Does anyone believe that the government was in any serious jeopardy of being toppled by a "mob"?

Are you kidding? Intent is all that is needed for conviction. If you attempt to rob a bank but failed...are you still guilty?

Read Eastman's memo. The plan was to prevent the completion of the count of electors. Even better if the mob had captured members of congress. Trump could then declare martial law and suspend the electoral process. Then he wanted to get republican legislatures to appoint electors to supersede those who were actually elected to vote.

Yes...the government of Joe Biden, president elect, was in jeopardy of being prevented form taking power.

 

[Zam-Zam]

es to appoint electors to supersede those who were actually elected to vote.

Yes...the government of Joe Biden, president elect, was in jeopardy of being prevented form taking power.

We disagree. If the regular military had had to have been called in, the "mob" would not have stood a chance.

As it was, that step wasn't needed.

Not much of a threat, as threats go. I was over in hours, not months or years.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

We disagree. If the regular military had had to have been called in, the "mob" would not have stood a chance.

As it was, that step wasn't needed.

Not much of a threat, as threats go. I was over in hours, not months or years.

As if Trump would have tasked the military with putting down his insurrectionist mob.

 

[middleview]

We disagree. If the regular military had had to have been called in, the "mob" would not have stood a chance.

As it was, that step wasn't needed.

Not much of a threat, as threats go. I was over in hours, not months or years.

Trump wasn't about to call in the military as long as Eastman's plan was in play. As soon as it was clear that all senators and congressmen as well as Pence had escaped capture...Trump called for the rioters to go home.

PS...please do not edit the post you are replying to.

 

[Boltlady]

That's what they intended...I'm not sure how big of a threat they actually constituted. Does anyone believe that the government was in any serious jeopardy of being toppled by a "mob"?

They're trying to make the whole thing seem much bigger and more threatening than it actually was because they're hoping to justify using the 14th Amendment to keep Trump from being able to hold office. They know that he'll let the public in on the depth of corruption that most of them (both parties), are part of and they are trying everything to keep that from happening.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

They're trying to make the whole thing seem much bigger and more threatening than it actually was because they're hoping to justify using the 14th Amendment to keep Trump from being able to hold office. They know that he'll let the public in on the depth of corruption that most of them (both parties), are part of and they are trying everything to keep that from happening.

Do you think Trump gave aid and comfort to the insurrectionists when he watched them on TV for 3 hours and egged them on with tweets instead of ordering a stop to it?

 

[middleview]

They're trying to make the whole thing seem much bigger and more threatening than it actually was because they're hoping to justify using the 14th Amendment to keep Trump from being able to hold office. They know that he'll let the public in on the depth of corruption that most of them (both parties), are part of and they are trying everything to keep that from happening.

As you try to continue the Trumpist narrative that it was no big deal, it was really Antifa trying to make Trump look bad or the FBI provocateurs or Nancy Pelosi's fault. Tucker showed a few minutes of a handful of people who trespassed in the Capitol, but not being violent as if that meant nobody was violent.

Eastman's memo is a problem then...because it shows the intent was to prevent the peaceful transfer of power to the elected Biden administration.

By the way...most dems agree that unless Trump is convicted in court of his complicity in the riot, he should not be held as ineligible to run. If he is convicted, then what? Would you still argue that he should be allowed to run?

 

[Zam-Zam]

They're trying to make the whole thing seem much bigger and more threatening than it actually was because they're hoping to justify using the 14th Amendment to keep Trump from being able to hold office. They know that he'll let the public in on the depth of corruption that most of them (both parties), are part of and they are trying everything to keep that from happening.

It was a stupid thing to do, and it gave the left some ammunition to use.

And some on the left are making the most of it, as should be expected.

No worries...You can only insist the sky is falling so many times before people start tuning out.

 

[Boltlady]

Do you think Trump gave aid and comfort to the insurrectionists when he watched them on TV for 3 hours and egged them on with tweets instead of ordering a stop to it?

There was no insurrection. Some media started using that word and people have copied it.

 

[Zam-Zam]

Trump wasn't about to call in the military as long as Eastman's plan was in play. As soon as it was clear that all senators and congressmen as well as Pence had escaped capture...Trump called for the rioters to go home.

PS...please do not edit the post you are replying to.

We disagree on the degree of the threat.

Now, if they had occupied the nation's capital as long as portions of Seattle had been occupied, that would have been a much bigger deal. Instead, it was a smaller deal.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

There was no insurrection. Some media started using that word and people have copied it.

Did Trump give aid and comfort to those who attacked the US Capitol building?

 

[middleview]

We disagree on the degree of the threat.

Now, if they had occupied the nation's capital as long as portions of Seattle had been occupied, that would have been a much bigger deal. Instead, it was a smaller deal.

Sure thing...a bunch of anarchists occupy an eight block area of Seattle for three weeks and that is much bigger than thousands of Trump supporters fighting like hell to attack the police and threaten congress to stop the peaceful transfer of power to the president elect...AND at the urging of the sitting president.