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A gasoline perspective

fxstc

fxstc

Council Member
to all you anti big oil liberals, it Seems that Government, those that have nothing to do with producing gasoline are the biggest profit takers.
US and state governments getting upwards of 10 times what oil companies get.
Why is companies like oil, tobacco, drug and liquor producers ALWAYS singled out as the bad guys?


http://www.exxonmobilperspectives.c...um=cpc&utm_campaign=Perspectives_-_Gas_Prices

BTW The US and State Governments ARE the prime reasons that all of these products are high.
Taxs on Tobacco in some places excede 7 bucks a pack.
Big business my azz.
Government is the big business.
 
How does the Government profit from the sale of gasoline? Are you suggesting that the Federal Government has no expenditures related to the production and use of gasoline?
 
That money government gets, is it in the form of taxes on the product? It seems to me consumers are paying those taxes, not the oil companies, liquor companies or tobacco companies. Are you suggesting that the corporations should get to keep these taxes?
 
fxstc said:
to all you anti big oil liberals, it Seems that Government, those that have nothing to do with producing gasoline are the biggest profit takers.
US and state governments getting upwards of 10 times what oil companies get.
Why is companies like oil, tobacco, drug and liquor producers ALWAYS singled out as the bad guys?


http://www.exxonmobilperspectives.c...um=cpc&utm_campaign=Perspectives_-_Gas_Prices

BTW The US and State Governments ARE the prime reasons that all of these products are high.
Taxs on Tobacco in some places excede 7 bucks a pack.
Big business my azz.
Government is the big business.
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Those items, while producing certain efficiencies, as in transportation; or producing improved conditions in medical cases...those items also cost society in their abuse, (liquor ,prescription drugs) or their wear and tear on the infrastructure (automobiles). Tobacco has little use. Nicotine is a very mild stimulant, but it is one of the most addictive substances, hence the need for constant smoking by the addicted. Its cost in health and lost time in the workplace is tremendous.

The nation, the individual states...and your locality all pay for roads from sources such as gasoline taxes. Roads are a basic and primary governmental function.

The pov posted does not elicit sympathy for the terrible plight of ExxonMobil...
 
Legal theft then.

You get up, put on your clothes and head out to shop.
While you shop, a few errands are in the works.
Fill gas tank, pick up script, buy a pack of Camels, and a handle of Vodka.

Lets see, tank took ten gallons, thats 37.50
Camels, 7.50
Script 25.00
Vodka 14.00
Total $84.00

Government take $60.00
Everyone else $24.00
Who are the thiefs?
 
This is the kind of idiotic meme that only talk radio morons take seriously.

It's also a reflection of the dishonest of Exxon Mobil that they even cook this stuff up.

They never bother to mention that producers, transporters, refineers and marketers are all taking a profit at each point of this supply chain. Nor did they mention that Exxon is ofen selling product to itself for a profit along the way either. IF the oil came from Saudi Aramco, for instance, Exxon got 25% of the profit before transportation, marketing, refining, or distribution.

Aslo, discuout their figures and they're based on a crude oil price of $144.00 per barrel.

No, the 7 or 8 cent figure is what the guy who pumps the gas into your car makes. And has been for several years.

So, Exxon can moan that it spent $198 billion buying oil (most often from itself) and laugh all the way to the bank with the $30 billion they made in 2010 and celebrate that their earings increased by 53% that year.

Exxon has been around since John D Rockefeller gave up the dry goods industry for oil in Titusville, Pa.

It has NEVER lost money.

Is it inherently evil? Not necessarily. But it has been one of the most notorious practitioners of predatory capitalism throughout its history.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/01/business/01oil.html?_r=0
 
How profitable would Exxon be if the government didn't use the "profit" it made from oil to maintain roads,airports and bridges for cars, trucks, trains and planes to use??????

Or is that too complicated a concept for you wingnuts?????????????????????
 
fxstc said:
Legal theft then.

You get up, put on your clothes and head out to shop.
While you shop, a few errands are in the works.
Fill gas tank, pick up script, buy a pack of Camels, and a handle of Vodka.

Lets see, tank took ten gallons, thats 37.50
Camels, 7.50
Script 25.00
Vodka 14.00
Total $84.00

Government take $60.00
Everyone else $24.00
Who are the thiefs?
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Your figures are imaginary. Nonetheless, they do nothing to address the points I made regarding the costs.

Where do you get the $60 figure? The gas tax...at the Exxon article stated 39 cents...would be $3.90. That goes to roads. The Camels are taxed at $7...that goes to health care and lung cancer research...total, $10.90.

That leaves cheap Vodka @$14...and a prescription (I guess) at $25...for a total outlay there of $39. Not all of it tax.

Do you have representatives? Can you vote? Taxation is the price you pay for that. Along with roads and health care...brought on by those elements. It's called civilization.
 
fxstc said:
to all you anti big oil liberals, it Seems that Government, those that have nothing to do with producing gasoline are the biggest profit takers.
US and state governments getting upwards of 10 times what oil companies get.
Why is companies like oil, tobacco, drug and liquor producers ALWAYS singled out as the bad guys?


http://www.exxonmobilperspectives.c...um=cpc&utm_campaign=Perspectives_-_Gas_Prices

BTW The US and State Governments ARE the prime reasons that all of these products are high.
Taxs on Tobacco in some places excede 7 bucks a pack.
Big business my azz.
Government is the big business.
Click to expand...

Because they are? Name something that they do that is done for the public good and not about making profits. Get real guy if someone is going to shed a tear for any of the companies you named. And the harm that is done by them, who should pay for that cost. The public, the tax payer who doesn't use it, or those who profit from it or seem to have a need for it?

Oil is bad, yet it is needed right now. But the cost of it should be born by those who make the most money from it or have the need to use it to make money.. The average person has to bear some of the cost in their daily use. How would you pay for the damages caused by these items?

Do you have a clue as to what the medical cost for a gal of oil, or a pack of cigarettes, or bottle of whiskey are? You seem to think there isn't one?
 
Where does the govt take money from scrips? If they took all the money from the other items they would have to take 4.00 from scrips? Really, please explain yourself guy?
 
fxstc said:
to all you anti big oil liberals, it Seems that Government, those that have nothing to do with producing gasoline are the biggest profit takers.
US and state governments getting upwards of 10 times what oil companies get.
Why is companies like oil, tobacco, drug and liquor producers ALWAYS singled out as the bad guys?


http://www.exxonmobilperspectives.c...um=cpc&utm_campaign=Perspectives_-_Gas_Prices

BTW The US and State Governments ARE the prime reasons that all of these products are high.
Taxs on Tobacco in some places excede 7 bucks a pack.
Good, it should be around $20 a pack.
Big business my azz.
Government also subsidizes all those "businesses to the tune of billions of taxpayer dollars a year, all while they enjoy 40 billion dollars in profits!
Government is the big business.
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Sure it is, that's how we got the Interstate highway system, the dams that generate most of the electicity for rural folks, communications, safe autos, safer mines, no child laboring in factories for pennies a day, no rat crap in your hot dogs and sausage, clean water to drink, safe food to eat, and a host of other good things.

What's your point? That big business should have a free reign to do as it pleases because it has a history of doing the "right thing"? Don't make me laugh.
 
fxstc said:
Legal theft then.

You get up, put on your clothes and head out to shop.
While you shop, a few errands are in the works.
Fill gas tank, pick up script, buy a pack of Camels, and a handle of Vodka.

Lets see, tank took ten gallons, thats 37.50
Camels, 7.50
Script 25.00
Vodka 14.00
Total $84.00

Government take $60.00
Everyone else $24.00
Who are the thiefs?
Click to expand...

I did some more research...

Maryland, where I live, has a $2 per pack cig tax. It has a 42 cent gas tax and taxes hard liquor at $1.50 per gallon. Federal gas tax is 18 cents...Federal liquor tax on 80 proof spirits is $2.14 per 750ml. Fed cig tax is $1.01 per pack.

So..what we're looking at is...

$3.01 cig tax
$0.60 gas tax X10 =$6.00
$2.50 liquor tax...

More like 11.50 in taxes...without even discussing all the issues with your $25 scrip...
 
Gasoline for my family was over $600 last month... money could have been better spent on dinners, or hotels, or USA made goods and given more jobs to Americans. Libs don't "get it".

fxstc said:
to all you anti big oil liberals, it Seems that Government, those that have nothing to do with producing gasoline are the biggest profit takers.
US and state governments getting upwards of 10 times what oil companies get.
Why is companies like oil, tobacco, drug and liquor producers ALWAYS singled out as the bad guys?


http://www.exxonmobilperspectives.c...um=cpc&utm_campaign=Perspectives_-_Gas_Prices

BTW The US and State Governments ARE the prime reasons that all of these products are high.
Taxs on Tobacco in some places excede 7 bucks a pack.
Big business my azz.
Government is the big business.
Click to expand...
 
NCmusicman said:
Gasoline for my family was over $600 last month... money could have been better spent on dinners, or hotels, or USA made goods and given more jobs to Americans. Libs don't "get it".
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$600???

How much for the Tahoe? How much was business expense for hauling?
 
NCmusicman said:
Gasoline for my family was over $600 last month... money could have been better spent on dinners, or hotels, or USA made goods and given more jobs to Americans. Libs don't "get it".
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So you didn't use any roads to burn up that gasoline NCM? I am sure that $600 would buy a lot of Whoppers, Big Macs with cheese, large fries, and cokes for your family plus allow you to stay several nights at any Motel 6 of your choice. As for "USA made goods" there is no such animal anymore. At best you might find a few "Assembled in America" products, but something totally made in America hardly exists unless you're talking about buying some homemade apple pie (the apples probably came from South America or Australia) or something from a craft show (if made of cloth the material is probably imported).

You are the one who doesn't "get it", you want things provided for you like roads, police, fire departments, relatively safe food, clean water, decent air to breathe, and a host of other government funded things, yet you don't want to pay for any of it. Go live in Somolia, they have the type of government you want.
 
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