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A little free ( I don't mind) educaton for indoctrinated Liberals.

I know Democrats and Liberals prefer Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto ideology, but myself, I side with folks such as this great philosopher, because history has shown what Marxism leads to and what dangers await in a Democracy, and what makes it really insightful is that he wrote it before it happened in America and before the parties consisted of big powerful central government Rino Republicans and Marxist Democrats.

Obama's administration is practicing "Tyranny of the Majority" to a degree not hitherto seen.

His class warfare, his giveaway programs that are paid for by a shrinking minority who have to support themselves their own families, the welfare state, and all the rest..

The Tea Party, so hated by the Marxist Left the Democrat Party and their slavish media allies, is trying to fight this growing tyranny and return to 1st principles.



"The Tyranny of the Majority" - from Alexis de Tocqueville's "Democracy in America."

Note: I took the liberty of editing to only those paragraphs that I find relevant to the subject.

I also italicized certain words and phrases that I find important to the discussion.

de Tocqueville's book is available at most public libraries if you are interested in doing further research or reading.

>>>Unlimited power is in itself a bad and dangerous thing; human beings are not competent to exercise it with discretion, and God alone can be omnipotent, because His wisdom and His justice are always equal to His power.

But no power upon earth is so worthy of honor for itself, or of reverential obedience to the rights which it represents, that I would consent to admit its uncontrolled and all-predominant authority. When I see that the right and the means of absolute command are conferred on a people or upon a king, upon an aristocracy or a democracy, a monarchy or a republic, I recognize the germ of tyranny, and I journey onward to a land of more hopeful institutions.<<<

>>>When an individual or a party is wronged, to whom can he apply for redress? If to public opinion, public opinion constitutes the majority; if to the legislature, it represents the majority, and implicitly obeys its injunctions; if to the executive power, it is appointed by the majority, and remains a passive tool in its hands; the public troops consist of the majority under arms; the jury is the majority invested with the right of hearing judicial cases; and in certain States even the judges are elected by the majority. However iniquitous or absurd the evil of which you complain may be, you must submit to it as well as you can. <<<<

>>>I do not say that tyrannical abuses frequently occur in America at the present day, but I maintain that no sure barrier is established against them, and that the causes which mitigate the government are to be found in the circumstances and the manners of the country more than in its laws. <<<

Here he quotes Hamilton in the Federalist Papers.

>>>"It is of great importance in a republic not only to guard the society against the oppression of its rulers, but to guard one part of the society against the injustice of the other part. Justice is the end of government.<<<

The tyranny of the Legislature is really the danger most to be feared, and will continue to be so for many years to come. The tyranny of the executive power will come in its turn, but at a more distant period." <<<

In other books and in other sections of this book, de Toqueville proposes solutions to these problems.
 
...so did you fear the executive branch when we were being lead into an unfunded and unnecessary war and unfunded entitlements back in 2001-2006?

...did you fear the executive branch when they were printing money and pouring billions of US taxpayer dollars into private business back in 2008 because we were told these businesses were "too big to fail"?
 
so did you fear the executive branch when we were being lead into an unfunded and unnecessary war and unfunded entitlements back in 2001-2006?

No, because the war was Justified based on the information we had at the time, and protecting the United States is a primary reason for the existence of the Federal Government. It says so right there in Article one Section Eight of the Congress.

And the war was authorized by Congress authorizing the use of force, something that was not done by Obama in the Libya fiasco that helped what turned out to be al Qaida.

...did you fear the executive branch when they were printing money and pouring billions of US taxpayer dollars into private business back in 2008 because we were told these businesses were "too big to fail"?

Your post is wrong because it's written in past tense.

Obama is printing far more than Bush ever did, over a trillion a year is being printed and funneled by the Federal Reserve, funneled to Wall Street, to prevent a weak economy that would collapse otherwise because of Obama's massive regulatory boot, anti business policies, the EPA police state , tax increases, and Obamacare which has virtually eliminated full time jobs creation and is turning full time workers to part time workers.

You ought to be ashamed of yourself for being nothing more than a partisan hack that is either oblivious to the facts or ignoring them.
 
No, because the war was Justified based on the information we had at the time, and protecting the United States is a primary reason for the existence of the Federal Government. It says so right there in Article one Section Eight of the Congress.

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We had no information on any plan by Saddam to attack the US, other than the stovepiped intel from Doug Feith and Paul Wolfwitz. That means we had no justification to attack Iraq. Even if he had a stockpile of weapons, we have not attacked other countries that had much larger and more lethal arsenals. India and Pakistan both have large nuclear capabilities. Pakistan is unstable and very likely to become controlled by a radicalized Islamic government. The USSR was certainly a lethal threat for decades. China is a threat today and North Korea continues to rattle their saber.

Just the very questionable intel that they may have bio and chem weapons is not justification for an attack. If it is you'd better get busy making babies because we are going to be needing a lot more infantry.
 
Finally! Someone speaks the truth. Thanks Staples. Alas, he only speaks half of it.

Staples is right when he suggests that the extent to which Pres. Obama has gotten everything he's asked for with hardly a lifted finger, IS historic. For 4+ years now, he's run roughshod - ROUGHSHOD I SAY!- over every GOP and the several "right thinking" Democrats who've stood in his way. I guess the only other example I can think of that even comes close, was when Barney Frank was able to collapse the world's economy from his minority seat in the House.

Still...Frank's got nothin' on Obama. Even as the Fox/GOP has put up a courageous fight, Obama has swatted them aside like so many cockroaches. He's been the penultimate "unstoppable force".

As frightening as all THAT is though it's not even the half of it. Where Staple's gets it wrong, is that he suggests that Obama has some sort of commie/Marxist scheme in mind. If ONLY it was that simple! For sure, commie/Marxism sounds unpleasent (to put it mildly) but at least if that was the case we'd enjoy some measure of predictability. We wouldn't like where he was headed and we wouldn't be able to stop him, but at least we'd have a clue as to where he was dragging us!

Here's the REALLY frightening truth though (cover the kids' eyes, check your arsenal, and convert everything to gold). Leading us to think he's into commie.Marxism is just one more part of his evil design. What he's really up to, is almost infinitely more insidious. Are you ready? Are you sure?.............




By 2016 Obama will have achieved world domination and his only goal will be to.............destroy EVERYTHING that is good and promulgate EVERYTHING that is bad.

There you have it. Call me "Snowden Jr.". I couldn't hold it in any longer.
 
We had no information on any plan by Saddam to attack the US, other than the stovepiped intel from Doug Feith and Paul Wolfwitz. That means we had no justification to attack Iraq. Even if he had a stockpile of weapons, we have not attacked other countries that had much larger and more lethal arsenals. India and Pakistan both have large nuclear capabilities. Pakistan is unstable and very likely to become controlled by a radicalized Islamic government. The USSR was certainly a lethal threat for decades. China is a threat today and North Korea continues to rattle their saber.

Just the very questionable intel that they may have bio and chem weapons is not justification for an attack. If it is you'd better get busy making babies because we are going to be needing a lot more infantry.


Where do you think Syria got the Chemical weapons Assad is using? And all of the intelligence agencies from Britain to Saudi Arabia believed he had them.

And it's understandable looking at the circumstance of the times watching those towers fall.

But today, what the government is doing is far worse. The NSA has gone farther than it ever has spying on Americans and a bunch of Republicans and Democrats are supporting of it.

Unbelievable. When they build a complex that is larger than the pentagon to store that data (which anyone in power no matter his ideological leanings can use against their opposition) and hold it forever, sorry bub, that's going too far. And that's exactly why a lot of Republicans and Democrats support it. ABSOLUTE CONTROL AND POWER OVER VIRTUALLY EVERY CITIZEN.

Both Ruling class Republicans and Ruling Class Statist Democrats have to go. we are not going to be a free people, no matter political strip you happen to be, very much longer. Anything you have ever said on the phone or posted or mailed will be available to them for all time.

I communicate by Amateur (HAM) radio for just that reason, though I'm beginning to think the government can listen in on that too.

We need to get back to JFK type Democrats and Reagan type Republicans. JFK and Reagan had far more in common that most people think.

It all changed when Johnson and few perpetual power families want ever ending control.

Too many Bushs Too many Clintons.

We need some new blood. A lot of people thought that Obama was that new blood, but he's been worse than any of them when it comes to abusing executive power.

And he's getting away with it because too damn many people are letting him and the media is covering for him.
 
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Where do you think Syria got the Chemical weapons Assad is using? And all of the intelligence agencies from Britain to Saudi Arabia believed he had them.

And it's understandable looking at the circumstance of the times watching those towers fall.

But today, what the government is doing is far worse. The NSA has gone farther than it ever has spying on Americans and a bunch of Republicans and Democrats are supporting of it.

Unbelievable. When they build a complex that is larger than the pentagon to store that data (which anyone in power no matter his ideological leanings can use against their opposition) and hold it forever, sorry bub, that's going too far. And that's exactly why a lot of Republicans and Democrats support it. ABSOLUTE CONTROL AND POWER OVER VIRTUALLY EVERY CITIZEN.

Both Ruling class Republicans and Ruling Class Statist Democrats have to go. we are not going to be a free people, no matter political strip you happen to be, very much longer. Anything you have ever said on the phone or posted or mailed will be available to them for all time.

I communicate by Amateur (HAM) radio for just that reason, though I'm beginning to think the government can listen in on that too.

We need to get back to JFK type Democrats and Reagan type Republicans. JFK and Reagan had far more in common that most people think.

It all changed when Johnson and few perpetual power families want ever ending control.

Too many Bushs Too many Clintons.

We need some new blood. A lot of people thought that Obama was that new blood, but he's been worse than any of them when it comes to abusing executive power.

And he's getting away with it because too damn many people are letting him and the media is covering for him.


Sorry staples, it wasn't our intent to shitcan your thread by proving you up as a babbling maroon!
 
The Ray Goon is the source of Assad's arsenal. One screwed up rethuglian that Ray Goon was. I hope the world never sees another leader like him AGAIN.
 
Here's two fun things to consider-

1. From the early 19th Century.....the conservative political position on a major issue...has always eventually lost to the progressive position. Voting rights for non-property owners, preserving the Union, ending slavery, labor rights, food and drug inspections, women getting the vote, Social Security, military integration, school integration, voting rights, civil rights, reproductive rights, etc., etc.

The conservative position, regardless of Party, has always eventually lost.


2. None of it matters since America will be destroyed in a little more than six months from now.

Dateline February 1, 2013
Sgt Staples;638625 said:
Therefore I have moved the hands on the America's Doomsday Clock to 12 minutes to 12, because we've got about 12 months until the whole thing collapses and the debt riots begin.

https://www.politicaljack.com/forum...-m-glad-O-bungle-has-things-firmly-in-control


:)
 
I know Democrats and Liberals prefer Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto ideology, but myself, I side with folks such as this great philosopher, because history has shown what Marxism leads to and what dangers await in a Democracy, and what makes it really insightful is that he wrote it before it happened in America and before the parties consisted of big powerful central government Rino Republicans and Marxist Democrats.

Obama's administration is practicing "Tyranny of the Majority" to a degree not hitherto seen.

His class warfare, his giveaway programs that are paid for by a shrinking minority who have to support themselves their own families, the welfare state, and all the rest..

The Tea Party, so hated by the Marxist Left the Democrat Party and their slavish media allies, is trying to fight this growing tyranny and return to 1st principles.



"The Tyranny of the Majority" - from Alexis de Tocqueville's "Democracy in America."

Note: I took the liberty of editing to only those paragraphs that I find relevant to the subject.

I also italicized certain words and phrases that I find important to the discussion.

de Tocqueville's book is available at most public libraries if you are interested in doing further research or reading.

>>>Unlimited power is in itself a bad and dangerous thing; human beings are not competent to exercise it with discretion, and God alone can be omnipotent, because His wisdom and His justice are always equal to His power.

But no power upon earth is so worthy of honor for itself, or of reverential obedience to the rights which it represents, that I would consent to admit its uncontrolled and all-predominant authority. When I see that the right and the means of absolute command are conferred on a people or upon a king, upon an aristocracy or a democracy, a monarchy or a republic, I recognize the germ of tyranny, and I journey onward to a land of more hopeful institutions.<<<

>>>When an individual or a party is wronged, to whom can he apply for redress? If to public opinion, public opinion constitutes the majority; if to the legislature, it represents the majority, and implicitly obeys its injunctions; if to the executive power, it is appointed by the majority, and remains a passive tool in its hands; the public troops consist of the majority under arms; the jury is the majority invested with the right of hearing judicial cases; and in certain States even the judges are elected by the majority. However iniquitous or absurd the evil of which you complain may be, you must submit to it as well as you can. <<<<

>>>I do not say that tyrannical abuses frequently occur in America at the present day, but I maintain that no sure barrier is established against them, and that the causes which mitigate the government are to be found in the circumstances and the manners of the country more than in its laws. <<<

Here he quotes Hamilton in the Federalist Papers.

>>>"It is of great importance in a republic not only to guard the society against the oppression of its rulers, but to guard one part of the society against the injustice of the other part. Justice is the end of government.<<<

The tyranny of the Legislature is really the danger most to be feared, and will continue to be so for many years to come. The tyranny of the executive power will come in its turn, but at a more distant period." <<<

In other books and in other sections of this book, de Toqueville proposes solutions to these problems.


These Fox News listeners are so funny. They have no idea what communism is and Marxism etc. they are taught by Fox News to be scared by these words.....they're just listed they have a black president so they call him a socialist and other inane words.
 
These Fox News listeners are so funny. They have no idea what communism is and Marxism etc. they are taught by Fox News to be scared by these words.....they're just listed they have a black president so they call him a socialist and other inane words.
These "Fox News" listeners can Go Fvck themselves
 
I know Democrats and Liberals prefer Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto ideology, but myself, I side with folks such as this great philosopher, because history has shown what Marxism leads to and what dangers await in a Democracy, and what makes it really insightful is that he wrote it before it happened in America and before the parties consisted of big powerful central government Rino Republicans and Marxist Democrats.

Obama's administration is practicing "Tyranny of the Majority" to a degree not hitherto seen.

His class warfare, his giveaway programs that are paid for by a shrinking minority who have to support themselves their own families, the welfare state, and all the rest..

The Tea Party, so hated by the Marxist Left the Democrat Party and their slavish media allies, is trying to fight this growing tyranny and return to 1st principles.



"The Tyranny of the Majority" - from Alexis de Tocqueville's "Democracy in America."

Note: I took the liberty of editing to only those paragraphs that I find relevant to the subject.

I also italicized certain words and phrases that I find important to the discussion.

de Tocqueville's book is available at most public libraries if you are interested in doing further research or reading.

>>>Unlimited power is in itself a bad and dangerous thing; human beings are not competent to exercise it with discretion, and God alone can be omnipotent, because His wisdom and His justice are always equal to His power.

But no power upon earth is so worthy of honor for itself, or of reverential obedience to the rights which it represents, that I would consent to admit its uncontrolled and all-predominant authority. When I see that the right and the means of absolute command are conferred on a people or upon a king, upon an aristocracy or a democracy, a monarchy or a republic, I recognize the germ of tyranny, and I journey onward to a land of more hopeful institutions.<<<

>>>When an individual or a party is wronged, to whom can he apply for redress? If to public opinion, public opinion constitutes the majority; if to the legislature, it represents the majority, and implicitly obeys its injunctions; if to the executive power, it is appointed by the majority, and remains a passive tool in its hands; the public troops consist of the majority under arms; the jury is the majority invested with the right of hearing judicial cases; and in certain States even the judges are elected by the majority. However iniquitous or absurd the evil of which you complain may be, you must submit to it as well as you can. <<<<

>>>I do not say that tyrannical abuses frequently occur in America at the present day, but I maintain that no sure barrier is established against them, and that the causes which mitigate the government are to be found in the circumstances and the manners of the country more than in its laws. <<<

Here he quotes Hamilton in the Federalist Papers.

>>>"It is of great importance in a republic not only to guard the society against the oppression of its rulers, but to guard one part of the society against the injustice of the other part. Justice is the end of government.<<<

The tyranny of the Legislature is really the danger most to be feared, and will continue to be so for many years to come. The tyranny of the executive power will come in its turn, but at a more distant period." <<<

In other books and in other sections of this book, de Toqueville proposes solutions to these problems.
I know Democrats and Liberals prefer Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto ideology

Good boy. Start out with "I'm delusional and hate half my fellow countrymen for views they don't hold."

Thanks. Saves time when I don't have to dig for the winger lunacy. No need to read the rest when the silly false premise is at the very beginning.
 
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