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Addy said:
He has never been identified as being a journalist only well known for his political satire..
I don't about Shepard Smith's credentials, but Fox has been to court to declare themselves as a non news source..
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I doubt that very much

And apparently liberals consider Stewart a credible news source, since he is considered one of the most influential personalities on television.
 
SW48 said:
I think the majority of politicians are good people. Than can become corrupted but for the most part they are good.
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Sorry, I disagree. Whether they were corruptible before they got into politics, or became corrupted afterwards, is the only question...

What came first, the chicken, or the egg? Hmmm....
 
Renee said:
What have you suggested other than cutting food stamps for children?
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Who said that? Why are you always lying? I've never seen anyone here say that....are you twisting someone's words to your liking again (still?)?. It's funny though, you call us extremists, and you are one of the biggest extremists I've ever had the bad luck to come across.
 
Caroljo said:
Did he mean it? I never saw the apology....did that happen AFTER he found he needed to raise it himself?
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LOL... April 2011...and while I don't see an "apology", he DID say he "regretted" it. Of course he did...:D:rolleyes:

The White House said Monday that President Barack Obama regrets his vote as a senator in 2006 against raising the debt limit - a vote he's now pressuring Congress to take.
Obama "thinks it was a mistake," presidential spokesman Jay Carney told reporters. "He realizes now that raising the debt ceiling is so important to the health of this economy and the global economy that it is not a vote that, even when you are protesting an administration's policies, you can play around with."

The country will reach the current debt limit of $14.3 trillion by May 16. If Congress doesn't raise it, the government would not be able to make debt payments, leading to an unprecedented default of the national debt and driving up borrowing costs for the government, U.S. companies and consumers, the Treasury Department warns.
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Caroljo said:
Who said that? Why are you always lying? I've never seen anyone here say that....are you twisting someone's words to your liking again (still?)?. It's funny though, you call us extremists, and you are one of the biggest extremists I've ever had the bad luck to come across.
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She lies every [Unwelcome language removed] time she opens her mouth.
 
Colorforms said:
I doubt that very much

And apparently liberals consider Stewart a credible news source, since he is considered one of the most influential personalities on television.
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Stewart is not my main source of news.. he has good insight though to both sides of the political aisle regarding D.C./politics in general... imo..
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Fox-Can-Lie Lawsuit

People frequently refer to a court case that Fox won, which essentially gives the media the right to lie. This came from an appellate court decision that states that the FCC’s news distortion policy does not qualify as a rule, law, or regulation.
http://foxnewsboycott.com/resources/fox-can-lie-lawsuit/
 
Caroljo said:
Yup....just as I thought. When it comes to him doing the same thing, the rules change. What a loser!
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No, the rules don't change, people hopefully learn from their prior mistakes..including the president... for which he has acknowledged and apologized.
 
Addy said:
Stewart is not my main source of news.. he has good insight though to both sides of the political aisle regarding D.C./politics in general... imo..
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Fox-Can-Lie Lawsuit

People frequently refer to a court case that Fox won, which essentially gives the media the right to lie. This came from an appellate court decision that states that the FCC’s news distortion policy does not qualify as a rule, law, or regulation.
http://foxnewsboycott.com/resources/fox-can-lie-lawsuit/
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What YOU in particular believe is not at issue. Enough liberals, and unfortunately, enough normal people, believe Stewart is a credible news source.

As for FOX, I found nothing pertaining to FOX’s “right to lie” outside of liberal propaganda sites. So I’m not giving you points on that one. I suspect any “right to lie” refers to their editorial content.
 
Colorforms said:
What YOU in particular believe is not at issue. Enough liberals, and unfortunately, enough normal people, believe Stewart is a credible news source.

As for FOX, I found nothing pertaining to FOX’s “right to lie” outside of liberal propaganda sites. So I’m not giving you points on that one. I suspect any “right to lie” refers to their editorial content.
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This story made the news several years ago.. not a story any liberals have made up..
 
Please feel free to correct this.. regarding any errors..

MSNBC :

Rachel Maddow has a PhD in Political Science.
Chris Matthews has an MA in Economics.
Ed Schultz--couldn't find his major, just noted he has received three Eric Sevaried awards, a Marconi award and a Peabody award.
Lawrence O'Donnell--Harvard grad, Chief of Staff of US Senate Finance Committee, senior advisor to Senator Patrick Moynihan


Megyn Kelley--BA in Political Science
Gretchen Carlson--BA in Sociology Organizational Behavior and Miss America 1989
Laura Ingle has a law degree
Greta van Susteren--BA in economics

O'Reilly--BA in History
Beck--dropped out of college
Hannity--dropped out of college
Kilmeade--a BA in something, doesn't say
Doucey--I find no information on his education
Shepherd Smith--majored in journalism, but did not get a degree
Brit Hume--BA in English
 
Addy said:
This story made the news several years ago.. not a story any liberals have made up..
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I doubt that they made it up, but like just about anything else they talk about, I am sure the facts are obscured enough to conform to the liberal narrative.
 
Addy said:
Please feel free to correct this.. regarding any errors..

MSNBC :

Rachel Maddow has a PhD in Political Science.
Chris Matthews has an MA in Economics.
Ed Schultz--couldn't find his major, just noted he has received three Eric Sevaried awards, a Marconi award and a Peabody award.
Lawrence O'Donnell--Harvard grad, Chief of Staff of US Senate Finance Committee, senior advisor to Senator Patrick Moynihan


Megyn Kelley--BA in Political Science
Gretchen Carlson--BA in Sociology Organizational Behavior and Miss America 1989
Laura Ingle has a law degree
Greta van Susteren--BA in economics

O'Reilly--BA in History
Beck--dropped out of college
Hannity--dropped out of college
Kilmeade--a BA in something, doesn't say
Doucey--I find no information on his education
Shepherd Smith--majored in journalism, but did not get a degree
Brit Hume--BA in English
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How incredibly irrelevant and petty of you :D
 
Spamature said:
That sounded pretty divisive to me. Look conservatives have been compromise with so much that the Democrats of today are the Republicans of 40 years ago. This current administration is an example of that. Yet approve of a message that says they are trying to destroy the country. How do you compromise with a mindset like this ?
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As this poster says, today's Democratic Party is centered on a set of policies almost indistinguishable from that of the Reagan Era Republican Party (for better or worse). If that ain't "compromise", what is? The Obama/Democrats are fowarding virtually the same policy set pursued during what many Republicans view as their heyday.

My compatriots hate it when I allude this but...SOME of those policy sets were founded in reason. Now, the Republicans are hollering a policy set that abandons virtually all that "reason", and they complain that the Democrats won't "compromise".
 
Barbella said:
As everyone who has been here a while knows, I believe (nah, I KNOW) that 99.9% of politicians are crooked, narcissistic, selfish and self centered [Unwelcome language removed] who don't care about anything or anyone other than themselves. Sure I attack democrats, and especially liberals... because, first of all, I disagree with many of their opinions and views, but mainly because of their insistence on worshipping their government and their "leaders" to the point of bile-inducing nausea.

The point? We, The People, will continue to lose as long as we keep fighting each other, instead of fighting those who foster our division for their own gains. Do you not see how the animosity they encourage benefits THEM, and hurts US? Do you not understand how the political "elite" operate, and how cynically self-serving the whole lot of them is?

American citizens, patriots, should be able to agree to disagree, and try to work out a compromise for the good of the Nation and its people, on most issues. As long as BOTH sides are willing, that is. Life is not a "my-way-or-the-highway" path... no one can "have it all".

This, of course, is a "test". Your responses will immediately prove your patriotism, as well as your intelligence and common sense.,.

One, two, three..... GO!

:)

PS... I've actually tried this a couple of times in the past, only to get shot down every time... I don't know why I keep doing this. However... it is my firm belief that We, The People, need to "stick together" in order to survive with some semblance of dignity and freedom. Unfortunately, we certainly don't seem to be doing that....
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Finding a common ground is becoming harder and harder and in the near future will be impossible...

The right and left plays the majority of America like the fools they are...

The right will tell you they'll lower your taxes, reign in spending but when they were in power we saw massive spending under George W. Bush while cutting taxes to a point...

Then the left will tell us we need to rob the rich and give it to the poor ( ya know Robin in the Hoodie syndrome ) but what is lost is you can only tax the rich so much before they revolt and run to another country where they will not have to care for the poor...

In my opinion what we need is leaders that understand that we need a fair tax system that make everyone pay into the system including the illegal gardener and nanny...

We also should have limits on welfare for the poor and requirements that in a two year period they must get a real education that can help them get off the government tit... ( You can get a degree in the medical field or a cert that would do this )

We also should find a way to understand that our nation is falling behind the rest of the world, and infrastructure and education should be top on our list...

Oh I can go on and on but why should I because finding a common ground to do all this is impossible with so many because neither side want to really work together and so we must sit back and enjoy the lies they tell us while we make the choice of the lesser of two evils...

You know it would be simpler with a Dictatorship because at least you know the [Unwelcome language removed] is what he is and not trying to sell us a lemon while pretending it to be a sweet red apple...
 
Charcat said:
I think we need to do a better job of vetting anyone we elect. I'm not talking about the personal crap--like who had an affair, got divorced, etc.--I'm talking about ethics in business and politics. Or is it "after" they're elected that they become frauds and start becoming increasingly wealthy? That is no accident. It would be so interesting to find out who is really offering bribes and pay-offs to them all, but it is amazing how they get so rich after being elected. There is no longer any such thing as honor in politics, and I'm not optimistic about things ever getting any better without a complete change in how government works.
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Politics will corrupt the most innocent of souls...
 
Union_Jack_1972 said:
Finding a common ground is becoming harder and harder and in the near future will be impossible...

The right and left plays the majority of America like the fools they are...

The right will tell you they'll lower your taxes, reign in spending but when they were in power we saw massive spending under George W. Bush while cutting taxes to a point...

Then the left will tell us we need to rob the rich and give it to the poor ( ya know Robin in the Hoodie syndrome ) but what is lost is you can only tax the rich so much before they revolt and run to another country where they will not have to care for the poor...

In my opinion what we need is leaders that understand that we need a fair tax system that make everyone pay into the system including the illegal gardener and nanny...

We also should have limits on welfare for the poor and requirements that in a two year period they must get a real education that can help them get off the government tit... ( You can get a degree in the medical field or a cert that would do this )

We also should find a way to understand that our nation is falling behind the rest of the world, and infrastructure and education should be top on our list...

Oh I can go on and on but why should I because finding a common ground to do all this is impossible with so many because neither side want to really work together and so we must sit back and enjoy the lies they tell us while we make the choice of the lesser of two evils...

You know it would be simpler with a Dictatorship because at least you know the [Unwelcome language removed] is what he is and not trying to sell us a lemon while pretending it to be a sweet red apple...
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Good post, Jack! As can be seen in this thread alone, America is a nation divided like never before. There IS no "middle" any more.
 
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