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LeilaniMP

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Why is the left incapable of accepting the fact that they lost in 2016?

Their constant unhinged hate is unreal. Every single day, we see countless examples of their vicious hatred...day in, and day out.

There are/were many who were unhappy with Obama, but they didn't behave like the leftists are, now.

One can only imagine their derangement if they don't get what they want in November.

Where are the sane Democrats? Why aren't they telling the crazies how detrimental they are?

FYI: the #WalkAway movement is because of the leftist hatemongers. They're driving people away from...not to... their "cause".
 
political movement, political insurrection... this was a widespread operation planned as a go-to option if Hillary wasn't able to throw the election.

It is desperation time ... the other party controls the white house, both houses of congress, and the supreme court. what else can they do?
 
As @Days says, it is more than throwing a tantrum because they lost. It is complete political insurrection. The leaders are acting crazy in the hopes that some deranged peon will act out on it and do something unspeakable. The leaders are actually pushing for violent overthrow of this administration.

Maxine Waters told her minions not to even allow Trump admin people to eat in peace. People in the Trump administration must be confronted and reviled in every public place. That is insurrection. It is sedition. And it is what they are knowingly doing.

The TDS has gone way beyond an unsightly little tantrum. What is happening isn't nice and the ultimate result may destroy the nation.
 
As @Days says, it is more than throwing a tantrum because they lost. It is complete political insurrection. The leaders are acting crazy in the hopes that some deranged peon will act out on it and do something unspeakable. The leaders are actually pushing for violent overthrow of this administration.

Maxine Waters told her minions not to even allow Trump admin people to eat in peace. People in the Trump administration must be confronted and reviled in every public place. That is insurrection. It is sedition. And it is what they are knowingly doing.

The TDS has gone way beyond an unsightly little tantrum. What is happening isn't nice and the ultimate result may destroy the nation.

Mad Max has called for confronting regular, everyday Trump supporters, too.

You are right. The "leaders" of the left consider their followers "useful idiots", to be used to further their agenda. I think they actually hope their loons are seriously injured, or killed....or.... that they injure, or kill, others.

They couldn't care less about destroying the USA.
 
political movement, political insurrection... this was a widespread operation planned as a go-to option if Hillary wasn't able to throw the election.

It is desperation time ... the other party controls the white house, both houses of congress, and the supreme court. what else can they do?
Watch for big time election fraud. Watch for it!

Watch out for them not even hiding their crimes and fueling massive chaos.
 
My feeling is that there are a couple of things that have brought us to the insanity of the present. The first is that it's been planned, coordinated and financed by -- let's use the term, -- monied interests, like @Days said.

Yet that would require a ready & willing number of patsies for it to become widespread. That's thing 2:

Leftists/progressives (whatever we want to call those suffering & purveying TDS) were riding high after the Democrat Johnson's massive transformation of the US in the direction they favored, essentially into a socialist nation-state. Following that came America's loss (that's what it was, no matter how anyone tried to spin it) to communist Viet Nam. Not only were they thrilled by that in itself, but they felt that it was the first successful result of street agitation since the women's suffrage movement.

Next, the staunchly anti-communist Republican Nixon resigned in disgrace and Ford lost (however narrowly) to the Democrat Carter. Through all this, Soviet Communism continued it's rise and spread (and even Nixon felt compelled to give the Chinese Communists their victory over the free Chinese). Those parts of Europe that were still run by "capitalist pigs" were becoming more and more socialist. The progressives could taste final victory.

Then Reagan became president. They hated him with a passion. Old-School Democrats still ran the show in congress and they treated the president with respect. Outside of that -- as others around then probably recall -- lower-grade symptoms the same as those of TDS began. All the things we're seeing today, but smaller, just pockets of the "resistance" like now. Hatred, vilification, lies, attacks of all sorts. Today, writ small.

Then Republican (and worse, Democrat turned Republican) Reagan committed the unpardonable sin: He succeeded. Not only did the economy flourish but, infinitely worse, he drove the Soviet Communists to their knees. Recall: Reagan signed more tax increases than tax cuts, he did the bidding of the money-masters in Libya, he grew the federal government (just more slowly), and more that Marxists love. But he took out the Communists in Grenada and brought the USSR to the brink of it's end. The progressives were beside themselves.

Recall, too, that while Reagan won the largest electoral victory in history when elected for a 2nd term, over 40% of voters went for Carter's VP Mondale. Thanks to public & university education, the number of those useful idiots has only grown.

Anyway, after Reagan, things started turning back around a little for the demoralized, debilitated, and very angry progressives. Americans elected Bush to give Reagan a 3rd term, but it didn't turn out that way. President Trilateral Commission could have had the USA take the world by the balls (pardon me) as the USSR's then inevitable collapse happened, but he followed his globalist masters' commands and gave us the trilateral (USA/Israel, Russia, China) world we have today. And the economy went bust. Progressives felt a little better. Then Democrat Clinton won (thanks to Ross Perot), and that's when the modern stage was set.

Clinton governed like a moderate conservative in most ways, but he tried to socialize health care and had a (D) after his name. The economy did well and the more Marxist-leaning Gore was poised to be handed the Presidency as Bush was. Progressives were happy. That's when the real insanity began. Gore got more votes, but the (R) got the presidency. Many of them still insist that W really lost Florida and thus the electoral college, though multiple independent post facto examinations showed that no matter how the votes were counted, W won FL. Many still insist the SC crowned him, though all they did was tell FL they'd recounted enough times and they had to certify the results already. The delusional inmates were taking over the asylum.

It was WDS. The Yale & Harvard graduate was too stupid to eat a pretzel properly. Open calls for the assassination of the president were cheered. For 8 years, the Bush 43 "resistance" seethed, cried, and screamed. The seeds of derangement and violence were planted.

Next presidential primary season, Democrats immediately shoved aside all the qualified White men to make the woman and the sorta-black one the front-runners, ultimately deciding that having the 1st black(ish) POTUS was more important that having the first woman POTUS (or a qualified POTUS). Obama won, progressives had an 8 year long wet-dream (pardon me, again), and it was time for the 1st female president to ascend. A forgone conclusion, of course, after (D) Obama's masterful presidency (delusion), every poll saying so (narcissistic personality disorder), and the idiotic, racist, fascist Republicans' (schizophrenia & histrionic personality disorder) running arch-capitalist (paranoia) Trump.

Oops.

They'd already been driven to the brink of insanity with Reagan, then past it with W. The up and down roller-coaster ride of manic depression/elation was already too much for the collective fragile and feeble mind. An (R) winning would be bad enough. But defeating the most brilliant woman in the world and most qualified presidential candidate ever! By electors but not the national popular vote!! Again!!! After we'd voted in Republican primaries to help assure that crass, unqualified loudmouth became their nominee guaranteed to lose!!!! After all those things he didn't say but we said he said and doesn't believe but we said he believes and isn't but we said he is!!!!!

But?...But? How?...How? We're the smart ones...? We're right, we're good, we're moral...? They're...? They're...? He...? He...?

It was a slap in the face so hard they're brains fell out.

They're gone now. Mad, rabid curs are what's left. TDS was inevitable.

And those handlers -- the monied interests -- will throw them raw meat until they devour themselves and their country.
 
And those handlers -- the monied interests -- will throw them raw meat until they devour themselves and their country.


There is a lot that is true about what you say. From FDR on, even given the inclusion of Eisenhower (and Nixon, who I'll deal with in a moment) the left-leaning portion of the American political scene have always seen the polity of the United States as a one-way ratchet, pulling further left and not retreating.

But even though Johnson supported many of their views and promoted many of their programs, he was not "of" the left. The people in Pulaski Square chanting "Hey, hey, LBJ, how many kids have you killed today" were firm lefties, and J0hnson was never enough. What they were not, however, was numerous enough to push their own agenda. The American far left as a real political force is part and parcel of the Baby Boom generation -- unfortunately I'm considered a member -- who grew up to comfortable to have real problems and felt it was incumbent on themselves to solve the problems of other people, having somehow lost the concept of "mind your own business."
And they did, it has to be said, a lot of good. The racial and sexual inequality of the U.S. pre-1960 has to be seen as a violation of the best principles of the country's foundation.
The trouble is, and remains, that perfection is unachievable, and their accomplishments were never enough to make them happy -- and by 1970, in most legislative ways, they'd accomplished all their goals. Racial inequality was banned by law. Social inequality was being addressed by numerous programs. Sexual inequality was also being addressed via legislation. What did that leave? Well, of course it left the fact that inequality is always present -- and outcomes showed that inequality. So the left has pushed since 1968 not for equal opportunity, but for something that cannot be guaranteed -- equal outcomes.
And this created a schism in the Democratic Party. The young firebrands of the 1960s came to the '68 convention wanting new blood (specifically they wanted Eugene McCarthy who was less electable than the candidate ultimately chosen at the eleciton). The WWII generation who actually ran the DNC wanted someone electable, someone stable, and yet someone who would create still more social programs and end the war in Southeast Asia.
We all know the outcome. Nixon. Despite what Hillary! supporters say, Nixon had the best resume' of anyone to run for office in U.S. history. He'd served up to field rank in the Navy. He'd been in the House as a Congressman, and in the Senate, and then served two terms as vice president -- he literally brought more political experience to the job than anyone else in U.S. history. His problem -- he was a lying, stealing, backstabbing paranoid with no respect for the law. Resume' doesn't always count. Nixon had to resign, and the DNC breathed a sigh of relief -- Ford was clearly not going to be re-elected and the ratchet would return to DNC control after he left office.
And then, in one of the outright dumbest moves in U.S. history, they selected Jimmy Carter to replace Ford. I love Carter, to this day I think he's one of the finest human beings to sit in the oval office. But I also lived through his administration and think he is living proof that nice guys finish last. I remember my parents worried about the high gas prices. I remember the sweaters and lower-your-thermostat to 55 in the winter. I remember, in short (the term he himself didn't use) the "malaise." The only people shocked by Reagan's election were Democrats. Reagan did the thing that Democrats didn't. He said "America is a great nation." The greatest political campaign run, to date, in my lifetime, is the "morning in America" campaign in which Reagan said it was OK to have a good job, enjoy the fruits of having that job, and be proud of the 20th Century accomplishments of the United States.
And for saying this he's been called a racist, a sexist and a candidate of the rich and the banking industry for 30-plus years, and with him the entire GOP, regardless of its candidates. If you don't do or say anything racist or sexist, statements you make are "dog whistles" to those who are racist and sexist. Accept rich donor's donations (and not be named Kerry, Gore, Clinton or Obama), and you're in the pocket of the special interests.
Which brings us to Trump. Trump is a buffoon. I didn't want to vote for him. I once voted for a third-party candidate (Perot -- about which I'm deeply embarrassed) so I couldn't vote for any of the trailer-candidates, and that left Trump, or Hillary! Needless to say I took Trump, as I'd have voted for a dead chimpanzee who was A) Nominated by a major party and B) wasn't Hillary Clinton.
And Trump has been what I expected in some ways. He says things no one in the public eye should say. He has a backlog of shady deals that would have followed him the rest of his life with or without the public scrutiny of being president. His personal life is a series of sexual embarrassments, ex wives, and statements that would get you fired in most office environments. He should smash his cell phone and cease all Twitter activity.

And he has a America with a 3.9 percent unemployment rate. The DOW average this morning is at 25,187, insignificantly down from a five-day high of 25,350 a week ago. North Korea has begun to negotiate, instead of testing missiles. The "the U.S. will handle it" attitude of our NATO allies has been shaken and we're starting to get at least some real cooperation there. If any other president had three of those successes on his plate he'd be praised as the next Clinton, possibly the next FDR. Obama would have committed blasphemy in two different religions for even one of them.
And that, more than anything, is driving the TDS. Not only did the buffoon defeat their "more qualified" candidate (the public saw through her ), but he actually has successes he can point to -- and they can't stop him from replacing Kennedy with a more traditional conservative. The ratchet is failing to go one way, and the Court can drive it further away from their goals.

It's a mistake to assume evil on the part of your opponent. Most liberals, especially most socialists, care deeply about the human condition and want desperately to improve the lot of people everywhere -- they've simply chosen the wrong method for doing that, and some embrace it with fanatic zeal. I could feel sorry for them, if they'd just attempt to live their lives and leave the rest of us alone. Unfortunately, the tools they've chosen are predicated on NOT doing that, and currently their hatred of Trump is placing them outside reality. That's a shame.
 
There is a lot that is true about what you say. From FDR on, even given the inclusion of Eisenhower (and Nixon, who I'll deal with in a moment) the left-leaning portion of the American political scene have always seen the polity of the United States as a one-way ratchet, pulling further left and not retreating.

But even though Johnson supported many of their views and promoted many of their programs, he was not "of" the left. The people in Pulaski Square chanting "Hey, hey, LBJ, how many kids have you killed today" were firm lefties, and J0hnson was never enough. What they were not, however, was numerous enough to push their own agenda. The American far left as a real political force is part and parcel of the Baby Boom generation -- unfortunately I'm considered a member -- who grew up to comfortable to have real problems and felt it was incumbent on themselves to solve the problems of other people, having somehow lost the concept of "mind your own business."
And they did, it has to be said, a lot of good. The racial and sexual inequality of the U.S. pre-1960 has to be seen as a violation of the best principles of the country's foundation.
The trouble is, and remains, that perfection is unachievable, and their accomplishments were never enough to make them happy -- and by 1970, in most legislative ways, they'd accomplished all their goals. Racial inequality was banned by law. Social inequality was being addressed by numerous programs. Sexual inequality was also being addressed via legislation. What did that leave? Well, of course it left the fact that inequality is always present -- and outcomes showed that inequality. So the left has pushed since 1968 not for equal opportunity, but for something that cannot be guaranteed -- equal outcomes.
And this created a schism in the Democratic Party. The young firebrands of the 1960s came to the '68 convention wanting new blood (specifically they wanted Eugene McCarthy who was less electable than the candidate ultimately chosen at the eleciton). The WWII generation who actually ran the DNC wanted someone electable, someone stable, and yet someone who would create still more social programs and end the war in Southeast Asia.
We all know the outcome. Nixon. Despite what Hillary! supporters say, Nixon had the best resume' of anyone to run for office in U.S. history. He'd served up to field rank in the Navy. He'd been in the House as a Congressman, and in the Senate, and then served two terms as vice president -- he literally brought more political experience to the job than anyone else in U.S. history. His problem -- he was a lying, stealing, backstabbing paranoid with no respect for the law. Resume' doesn't always count. Nixon had to resign, and the DNC breathed a sigh of relief -- Ford was clearly not going to be re-elected and the ratchet would return to DNC control after he left office.
And then, in one of the outright dumbest moves in U.S. history, they selected Jimmy Carter to replace Ford. I love Carter, to this day I think he's one of the finest human beings to sit in the oval office. But I also lived through his administration and think he is living proof that nice guys finish last. I remember my parents worried about the high gas prices. I remember the sweaters and lower-your-thermostat to 55 in the winter. I remember, in short (the term he himself didn't use) the "malaise." The only people shocked by Reagan's election were Democrats. Reagan did the thing that Democrats didn't. He said "America is a great nation." The greatest political campaign run, to date, in my lifetime, is the "morning in America" campaign in which Reagan said it was OK to have a good job, enjoy the fruits of having that job, and be proud of the 20th Century accomplishments of the United States.
And for saying this he's been called a racist, a sexist and a candidate of the rich and the banking industry for 30-plus years, and with him the entire GOP, regardless of its candidates. If you don't do or say anything racist or sexist, statements you make are "dog whistles" to those who are racist and sexist. Accept rich donor's donations (and not be named Kerry, Gore, Clinton or Obama), and you're in the pocket of the special interests.
Which brings us to Trump. Trump is a buffoon. I didn't want to vote for him. I once voted for a third-party candidate (Perot -- about which I'm deeply embarrassed) so I couldn't vote for any of the trailer-candidates, and that left Trump, or Hillary! Needless to say I took Trump, as I'd have voted for a dead chimpanzee who was A) Nominated by a major party and B) wasn't Hillary Clinton.
And Trump has been what I expected in some ways. He says things no one in the public eye should say. He has a backlog of shady deals that would have followed him the rest of his life with or without the public scrutiny of being president. His personal life is a series of sexual embarrassments, ex wives, and statements that would get you fired in most office environments. He should smash his cell phone and cease all Twitter activity.

And he has a America with a 3.9 percent unemployment rate. The DOW average this morning is at 25,187, insignificantly down from a five-day high of 25,350 a week ago. North Korea has begun to negotiate, instead of testing missiles. The "the U.S. will handle it" attitude of our NATO allies has been shaken and we're starting to get at least some real cooperation there. If any other president had three of those successes on his plate he'd be praised as the next Clinton, possibly the next FDR. Obama would have committed blasphemy in two different religions for even one of them.
And that, more than anything, is driving the TDS. Not only did the buffoon defeat their "more qualified" candidate (the public saw through her ), but he actually has successes he can point to -- and they can't stop him from replacing Kennedy with a more traditional conservative. The ratchet is failing to go one way, and the Court can drive it further away from their goals.

It's a mistake to assume evil on the part of your opponent. Most liberals, especially most socialists, care deeply about the human condition and want desperately to improve the lot of people everywhere -- they've simply chosen the wrong method for doing that, and some embrace it with fanatic zeal. I could feel sorry for them, if they'd just attempt to live their lives and leave the rest of us alone. Unfortunately, the tools they've chosen are predicated on NOT doing that, and currently their hatred of Trump is placing them outside reality. That's a shame.
(Love the blasphemy line.)

Very very accurate.

In any of these retrospects I’m amazed at how long these national attitudes persist. I remember malaise and the following Reagan years and I truly thank God I was a kid in the 80s when days were long and deep impressions could be made on me.

I’m also a bit dismayed that “malaise” lasted more than, like, a day even today when days pass by at lightning speed. If anything can be gained from this it is that the power to create malaise or a Great America rests completely with the individual.

Live deliberately. As if the government didn’t exist at all.
 
Mad Max has called for confronting regular, everyday Trump supporters, too.

You are right. The "leaders" of the left consider their followers "useful idiots", to be used to further their agenda. I think they actually hope their loons are seriously injured, or killed....or.... that they injure, or kill, others.

They couldn't care less about destroying the USA.
True. Useful idiots are more useful when they’re bleeding. See gun banner protests after a school shooting before the bodies are cold. Anything to promote the agenda.
 
There is a lot that is true about what you say. From FDR on ...
Except for the part about pre-1960's "inequality" having been a violation of America's founding principles, I'm with you on most of your excellent post.

The trends leading us to TDS certainly began before Johnson, as you note. Back to Wilson, probably. FDR took it all to a a new level, and the Republican presidents between him and Reagan, Eisenhower & Nixon & Ford, weren't really conservatives in any sense we'd apply the term today. Reagan was the first winner with unabashedly Goldwater/Buckley/capital-C Conservative rhetoric and, I believe, sentiments (his compromises notwithstanding). And he'd never pass muster with today's right-wing: He never even spoke of reducing the size of government, only of slowing it's growth. SSI, Medicare, Affirmative Action, public everything, and any supposed social welfare programs were never really touched much. Etc.

And therein lay the long-term issue, which you identified: "the polity of the United States as a one-way ratchet, pulling further left and not retreating." Once a federal program is in place, it stays. From massive and devastating programs like SSI, to little boondoggles like public television, to FUBARs like Obamacare, federal operations that need to be either eliminated or seriously transformed continue unabated and grow ad infinitum. The hard-right hardens and expands, the hard-left smells blood and expands, the great unwashed seek something/anything, somebody/anybody to provide relief from discord, tyranny, and oppression real or imagined, and we get the likes of populist know-nothings like Trump and Obama. We get TDS and ANTIFA and Communist radicals instead of loving, thoughtful, pragmatic liberals. We get the alt-Right instead of loving, thoughtful, pragmatic Buckley Conservatives. We get nigg9r/kik9/mudslim9-hating Nazis that have been 1/2 our growth in the past few years instead of loving, thoughtful, pragmatic National Socialists.

What we'll get next is hard to imagine.
 
To accept losing would mean accepting that Barack Obama was a lousy President despite the constant drum beating of the MSM about how great he was.

They cannot abide this.

They lost the mid-west when droves of people who voted for Obama the last two election cycles voted for Trump.

They will never accept this, why we have collusion narrative because their policies could not possibly suck. o_O

Personally I hope they continue to drown in their own pathetic smugness.
 
To accept losing would mean accepting that Barack Obama was a lousy President despite the constant drum beating of the MSM about how great he was.

They cannot abide this.

They lost the mid-west when droves of people who voted for Obama the last two election cycles voted for Trump.

They will never accept this, why we have collusion narrative because their policies could not possibly suck. o_O

Personally I hope they continue to drown in their own pathetic smugness.
Smug alert!!!
 
To accept losing would mean accepting that Barack Obama was a lousy President despite the constant drum beating of the MSM about how great he was.

They cannot abide this.
There's something to this^. Republicans presidents usually follow Democrat presidents then back and forth again, though. That's how it's been with the exceptions of Bush 41, who was VP of an extremely popular president, and VPs who took over from presidents who died in office, who were then followed by the other major party's candidate. So there has to be more to it: That Hillary's a woman, that she got more votes nation-wide, that Trump's an uber-capitalist ... all the things @trapdoor & I mentioned above.

And I'd add the brainwashing of public school and university.
 
There's something to this^. Republicans presidents usually follow Democrat presidents then back and forth again, though. That's how it's been with the exceptions of Bush 41, who was VP of an extremely popular president, and VPs who took over from presidents who died in office, who were then followed by the other major party's candidate. So there has to be more to it: That Hillary's a woman, that she got more votes nation-wide, that Trump's an uber-capitalist ... all the things @trapdoor & I mentioned above.

And I'd add the brainwashing of public school and university.
It was magic. ;)
https://www.ecosophia.net/the-kek-wars-part-one-aristocracy-and-its-discontents/
 
There is a lot that is true about what you say. From FDR on, even given the inclusion of Eisenhower (and Nixon, who I'll deal with in a moment) the left-leaning portion of the American political scene have always seen the polity of the United States as a one-way ratchet, pulling further left and not retreating.

But even though Johnson supported many of their views and promoted many of their programs, he was not "of" the left. The people in Pulaski Square chanting "Hey, hey, LBJ, how many kids have you killed today" were firm lefties, and J0hnson was never enough. What they were not, however, was numerous enough to push their own agenda. The American far left as a real political force is part and parcel of the Baby Boom generation -- unfortunately I'm considered a member -- who grew up to comfortable to have real problems and felt it was incumbent on themselves to solve the problems of other people, having somehow lost the concept of "mind your own business."
And they did, it has to be said, a lot of good. The racial and sexual inequality of the U.S. pre-1960 has to be seen as a violation of the best principles of the country's foundation.
The trouble is, and remains, that perfection is unachievable, and their accomplishments were never enough to make them happy -- and by 1970, in most legislative ways, they'd accomplished all their goals. Racial inequality was banned by law. Social inequality was being addressed by numerous programs. Sexual inequality was also being addressed via legislation. What did that leave? Well, of course it left the fact that inequality is always present -- and outcomes showed that inequality. So the left has pushed since 1968 not for equal opportunity, but for something that cannot be guaranteed -- equal outcomes.
And this created a schism in the Democratic Party. The young firebrands of the 1960s came to the '68 convention wanting new blood (specifically they wanted Eugene McCarthy who was less electable than the candidate ultimately chosen at the eleciton). The WWII generation who actually ran the DNC wanted someone electable, someone stable, and yet someone who would create still more social programs and end the war in Southeast Asia.
We all know the outcome. Nixon. Despite what Hillary! supporters say, Nixon had the best resume' of anyone to run for office in U.S. history. He'd served up to field rank in the Navy. He'd been in the House as a Congressman, and in the Senate, and then served two terms as vice president -- he literally brought more political experience to the job than anyone else in U.S. history. His problem -- he was a lying, stealing, backstabbing paranoid with no respect for the law. Resume' doesn't always count. Nixon had to resign, and the DNC breathed a sigh of relief -- Ford was clearly not going to be re-elected and the ratchet would return to DNC control after he left office.
And then, in one of the outright dumbest moves in U.S. history, they selected Jimmy Carter to replace Ford. I love Carter, to this day I think he's one of the finest human beings to sit in the oval office. But I also lived through his administration and think he is living proof that nice guys finish last. I remember my parents worried about the high gas prices. I remember the sweaters and lower-your-thermostat to 55 in the winter. I remember, in short (the term he himself didn't use) the "malaise." The only people shocked by Reagan's election were Democrats. Reagan did the thing that Democrats didn't. He said "America is a great nation." The greatest political campaign run, to date, in my lifetime, is the "morning in America" campaign in which Reagan said it was OK to have a good job, enjoy the fruits of having that job, and be proud of the 20th Century accomplishments of the United States.
And for saying this he's been called a racist, a sexist and a candidate of the rich and the banking industry for 30-plus years, and with him the entire GOP, regardless of its candidates. If you don't do or say anything racist or sexist, statements you make are "dog whistles" to those who are racist and sexist. Accept rich donor's donations (and not be named Kerry, Gore, Clinton or Obama), and you're in the pocket of the special interests.
Which brings us to Trump. Trump is a buffoon. I didn't want to vote for him. I once voted for a third-party candidate (Perot -- about which I'm deeply embarrassed) so I couldn't vote for any of the trailer-candidates, and that left Trump, or Hillary! Needless to say I took Trump, as I'd have voted for a dead chimpanzee who was A) Nominated by a major party and B) wasn't Hillary Clinton.
And Trump has been what I expected in some ways. He says things no one in the public eye should say. He has a backlog of shady deals that would have followed him the rest of his life with or without the public scrutiny of being president. His personal life is a series of sexual embarrassments, ex wives, and statements that would get you fired in most office environments. He should smash his cell phone and cease all Twitter activity.

And he has a America with a 3.9 percent unemployment rate. The DOW average this morning is at 25,187, insignificantly down from a five-day high of 25,350 a week ago. North Korea has begun to negotiate, instead of testing missiles. The "the U.S. will handle it" attitude of our NATO allies has been shaken and we're starting to get at least some real cooperation there. If any other president had three of those successes on his plate he'd be praised as the next Clinton, possibly the next FDR. Obama would have committed blasphemy in two different religions for even one of them.
And that, more than anything, is driving the TDS. Not only did the buffoon defeat their "more qualified" candidate (the public saw through her ), but he actually has successes he can point to -- and they can't stop him from replacing Kennedy with a more traditional conservative. The ratchet is failing to go one way, and the Court can drive it further away from their goals.

It's a mistake to assume evil on the part of your opponent. Most liberals, especially most socialists, care deeply about the human condition and want desperately to improve the lot of people everywhere -- they've simply chosen the wrong method for doing that, and some embrace it with fanatic zeal. I could feel sorry for them, if they'd just attempt to live their lives and leave the rest of us alone. Unfortunately, the tools they've chosen are predicated on NOT doing that, and currently their hatred of Trump is placing them outside reality. That's a shame.

So nice of you to give Trump credit for the .7% decline in the unemployment rate...and the increase in the Dow. You should also give him credit for the increase in water pollution near coal mines, as they are now permitted to continue to dump waste into local streams and rivers. He certainly has helped the Koch brothers by cutting back on EPA rules that hit them pretty hard in the pocketbook for polluting the air around their refineries....and I'm sure that Sheldon Adelson appreciates the move of our embassy to Jerusalem....he's getting his money's worth.

Has Trump done anything for me? Nah. I'm a fiscal conservative and he's getting further and further away from a balanced budget. Guess he didn't really mean that he'd payoff the national debt when he said he would.
 
So nice of you to give Trump credit for the .7% decline in the unemployment rate...and the increase in the Dow. You should also give him credit for the increase in water pollution near coal mines, as they are now permitted to continue to dump waste into local streams and rivers. He certainly has helped the Koch brothers by cutting back on EPA rules that hit them pretty hard in the pocketbook for polluting the air around their refineries....and I'm sure that Sheldon Adelson appreciates the move of our embassy to Jerusalem....he's getting his money's worth.

Has Trump done anything for me? Nah. I'm a fiscal conservative and he's getting further and further away from a balanced budget. Guess he didn't really mean that he'd payoff the national debt when he said he would.

Presidents get credit for the things that happen on their watch. Bush had seven years of a booming economy, and about four months of one that had crashed, but I've watched time and again as liberals blamed him not only for the crash, but for six additional years of flat economy while the "genius savior Obama" was in charge. So yes, like him or not, Trump gets credit for the good times he's experiencing, just as Clinton received credit for the tech sector boom he did nothing to create.

Is there actual evidence of the negatives you point out? I've not seen it. The EPA has always been over-reach, since the day of its inception -- some anonymous functionary behind a desk in Colorado or Kansas makes a few key strokes and presto, new legally binding regulations exist.

Jerusalem is the traditional capital of Israel, recognized as such by at least four of the U.S. presidents who preceded Trump -- Trump merely chose to make it official.
But as I said, Trump is a buffoon -- he merely was better than the alternative.
 
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