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A reminder - rules for police . . .

1. You cannot shoot someone in the back simply for walking away

2. even if they have several felony warrants outstanding, including 3rd degree sexual assault (rape)

3. You cannot shoot an unarmed person in the back OR front, just because they're talking trash to you

4. You cannot kneel on someone's neck while they're already in handcuffs, especially if they appear to be grossly incapacitated by narcotics or liquor

5. Even if they have 7 prior convictions, including armed robbery and assault

6. You cannot engage in a dangerous high speed chase on surface streets, no matter how exciting it is, and how fast you think your cruiser is. Call ahead for 'spike strips".

7. You cannot shoot INTO a vehicle which is stopped or disabled, unless someone is shooting at you in the first place.

8. You cannot offer to let someone off a speeding charge or other traffic violation in exchange for a blowjob

9. You cannot use social media to air your disapproval of blacks, jews, Mexicans, muslims, democrats, or gay people.

10. Treat every suspect, in custody or not, as if they were they mayors son/daughter, right through booking at the precinct house.

Rules for friends and relatives of victims of police misconduct . . .

1. No rioting or looting

2. Don't go on camera to assert that you son was innocent of the crimes he already did time for.

3. If you see mobs rioting or looting, and they're not you're own race, consider that your tragedy is possibly being exploited by someone for their own gain.

4. Urge people to take revenge at the ballot box, if reform has been slow in coming to your community.

5. avoid photo ops with out of town preachers

6. avoid signing big dollar wrongful death contracts with the first out of town lawyer you meet.

7. consider "weapons return day" if you have illegal handguns in your home which others might get ahold of - especially teens.

8. Assume you're being followed, and that your phones are illegally tapped, to impugn your character by publicizing what you say and do.

9. Be better than those who have injured you.

10. If you get a large cash award from the city or county for police misconduct, consider setting most or all of it aside for the deceased victim's children. They'll need it more than you will.
 
1. You cannot shoot someone in the back simply for walking away

2. even if they have several felony warrants outstanding, including 3rd degree sexual assault (rape)

3. You cannot shoot an unarmed person in the back OR front, just because they're talking trash to you

4. You cannot kneel on someone's neck while they're already in handcuffs, especially if they appear to be grossly incapacitated by narcotics or liquor

5. Even if they have 7 prior convictions, including armed robbery and assault

6. You cannot engage in a dangerous high speed chase on surface streets, no matter how exciting it is, and how fast you think your cruiser is. Call ahead for 'spike strips".

7. You cannot shoot INTO a vehicle which is stopped or disabled, unless someone is shooting at you in the first place.

8. You cannot offer to let someone off a speeding charge or other traffic violation in exchange for a blowjob

9. You cannot use social media to air your disapproval of blacks, jews, Mexicans, muslims, democrats, or gay people.

10. Treat every suspect, in custody or not, as if they were they mayors son/daughter, right through booking at the precinct house.

Rules for friends and relatives of victims of police misconduct . . .

1. No rioting or looting

2. Don't go on camera to assert that you son was innocent of the crimes he already did time for.

3. If you see mobs rioting or looting, and they're not you're own race, consider that your tragedy is possibly being exploited by someone for their own gain.

4. Urge people to take revenge at the ballot box, if reform has been slow in coming to your community.

5. avoid photo ops with out of town preachers

6. avoid signing big dollar wrongful death contracts with the first out of town lawyer you meet.

7. consider "weapons return day" if you have illegal handguns in your home which others might get ahold of - especially teens.

8. Assume you're being followed, and that your phones are illegally tapped, to impugn your character by publicizing what you say and do.

9. Be better than those who have injured you.

10. If you get a large cash award from the city or county for police misconduct, consider setting most or all of it aside for the deceased victim's children. They'll need it more than you will.


Julia Jackson spoke with grace and dignity in the aftermath of her son's shooting:

Julia Jackson, the mother of Jacob Blake, said her son would be upset to see the violence and destruction that took place in Wisconsin after he was shot by police officers.


Jackson said during a press conference on Tuesday that the destruction that has taken place in Kenosha, Wisconsin, and throughout the country does not reflect the desires of her or her son. She urged people to pray for everyone involved in the situation, including the police officers.

"We really just need prayers. As I was riding through here, through this city, I noticed a lot of damage that doesn’t reflect my son or my family," Jackson said. "If Jacob knew what was going on as far as that goes, the violence and the destruction, he would be very unpleased."

"So I’m really asking and encouraging everyone in Wisconsin and abroad to take a moment and examine your hearts. Citizens, police officers, firemen, clergy, politicians: Do Jacob justice on this level and examine your hearts. We need healing," she said.

Jackson called for prayers for the police officers in the United States. She urged police and minority citizens to love one another as they work to heal the division in the country.

"To all of the police officers, I’m praying for you and your families. To all of the citizens, my black and brown sisters and brothers, I’m praying for you. I believe that you are an intelligent being, just like the rest of us. Everybody, let’s use our hearts, our love, and our intelligence to work together to show the rest of the world how humans are supposed to treat each other," she said. "America is great when we behave greatly."

Jackson condemned racism and hatred of any kind. She urged people to come together to prevent any further division.

"How dare we hate what we are? We are humans. God did not make one type of tree or flower or fish or horse or grass or rock. How dare you ask him to make one type of human that looks just like you? I’m not talking to just Caucasian people. I am talking to everyone: white, black, Japanese, Chinese, red, brown. No one is superior to the other. The only supreme being is God himself," she said.

"Please, let’s begin to pray for healing for our nation. We are the United States. Have we been united? Do you understand what’s going to happen when we fall, because a house that is against each other cannot stand?" she added.




Complete text: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ther-condemns-wisconsin-riots?ocid=uxbndlbing



She speaks wisdom. The question is if we are wise enough to heed her words...
 
1. You cannot shoot someone in the back simply for walking away

2. even if they have several felony warrants outstanding, including 3rd degree sexual assault (rape)

3. You cannot shoot an unarmed person in the back OR front, just because they're talking trash to you

4. You cannot kneel on someone's neck while they're already in handcuffs, especially if they appear to be grossly incapacitated by narcotics or liquor

5. Even if they have 7 prior convictions, including armed robbery and assault

6. You cannot engage in a dangerous high speed chase on surface streets, no matter how exciting it is, and how fast you think your cruiser is. Call ahead for 'spike strips".

7. You cannot shoot INTO a vehicle which is stopped or disabled, unless someone is shooting at you in the first place.

8. You cannot offer to let someone off a speeding charge or other traffic violation in exchange for a blowjob

9. You cannot use social media to air your disapproval of blacks, jews, Mexicans, muslims, democrats, or gay people.

10. Treat every suspect, in custody or not, as if they were they mayors son/daughter, right through booking at the precinct house.

Rules for friends and relatives of victims of police misconduct . . .

1. No rioting or looting

2. Don't go on camera to assert that you son was innocent of the crimes he already did time for.

3. If you see mobs rioting or looting, and they're not you're own race, consider that your tragedy is possibly being exploited by someone for their own gain.

4. Urge people to take revenge at the ballot box, if reform has been slow in coming to your community.

5. avoid photo ops with out of town preachers

6. avoid signing big dollar wrongful death contracts with the first out of town lawyer you meet.

7. consider "weapons return day" if you have illegal handguns in your home which others might get ahold of - especially teens.

8. Assume you're being followed, and that your phones are illegally tapped, to impugn your character by publicizing what you say and do.

9. Be better than those who have injured you.

10. If you get a large cash award from the city or county for police misconduct, consider setting most or all of it aside for the deceased victim's children. They'll need it more than you will.
Outstanding! Five stars.
 
Julia Jackson spoke with grace and dignity in the aftermath of her son's shooting:

Julia Jackson, the mother of Jacob Blake, said her son would be upset to see the violence and destruction that took place in Wisconsin after he was shot by police officers.


Jackson said during a press conference on Tuesday that the destruction that has taken place in Kenosha, Wisconsin, and throughout the country does not reflect the desires of her or her son. She urged people to pray for everyone involved in the situation, including the police officers.

"We really just need prayers. As I was riding through here, through this city, I noticed a lot of damage that doesn’t reflect my son or my family," Jackson said. "If Jacob knew what was going on as far as that goes, the violence and the destruction, he would be very unpleased."

"So I’m really asking and encouraging everyone in Wisconsin and abroad to take a moment and examine your hearts. Citizens, police officers, firemen, clergy, politicians: Do Jacob justice on this level and examine your hearts. We need healing," she said.

Jackson called for prayers for the police officers in the United States. She urged police and minority citizens to love one another as they work to heal the division in the country.

"To all of the police officers, I’m praying for you and your families. To all of the citizens, my black and brown sisters and brothers, I’m praying for you. I believe that you are an intelligent being, just like the rest of us. Everybody, let’s use our hearts, our love, and our intelligence to work together to show the rest of the world how humans are supposed to treat each other," she said. "America is great when we behave greatly."

Jackson condemned racism and hatred of any kind. She urged people to come together to prevent any further division.

"How dare we hate what we are? We are humans. God did not make one type of tree or flower or fish or horse or grass or rock. How dare you ask him to make one type of human that looks just like you? I’m not talking to just Caucasian people. I am talking to everyone: white, black, Japanese, Chinese, red, brown. No one is superior to the other. The only supreme being is God himself," she said.

"Please, let’s begin to pray for healing for our nation. We are the United States. Have we been united? Do you understand what’s going to happen when we fall, because a house that is against each other cannot stand?" she added.




Complete text: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ther-condemns-wisconsin-riots?ocid=uxbndlbing



She speaks wisdom. The question is if we are wise enough to heed her words...
To bad Blake Jackson didnt peacefully go with the officers who were attempting to detain him. Rape is a very serious charge. Im sure his own mother would agree with that.
 
Don't shoot until shot at didn't work well for many in Vietnam nor shall it for cops.
 
So, if you cannot tell if the person has a weapon or not, you should assume they don't?

I'm not sure that is correct.
For police, absolutely.

On the battlefield, you follow the Geneva convention, and the rules of engagement laid out by your commander.

You don't shoot anything that moves. Disregarding that has led to uncountable friendly fire deaths and civilian atrocities.

Thank goodness you're not carrying a gun and wearing a uniform.
 
For police, absolutely.

On the battlefield, you follow the Geneva convention, and the rules of engagement laid out by your commander.

You don't shoot anything that moves. Disregarding that has led to uncountable friendly fire deaths and civilian atrocities.

Thank goodness you're not carrying a gun and wearing a uniform.

Yet, he wore a uniform for 20+ years and hopefully you don't hold ALL veterans guilty for My Lai.
 
For police, absolutely.

On the battlefield, you follow the Geneva convention, and the rules of engagement laid out by your commander.

You don't shoot anything that moves. Disregarding that has led to uncountable friendly fire deaths and civilian atrocities.

Thank goodness you're not carrying a gun and wearing a uniform.

Easy to say, especially from a position of relative safety.

I've been at the pointy end of the spear. All the decisions that you believe to be easy and clear-cut....aren't.
 
1. You cannot shoot someone in the back simply for walking away

2. even if they have several felony warrants outstanding, including 3rd degree sexual assault (rape)

3. You cannot shoot an unarmed person in the back OR front, just because they're talking trash to you

4. You cannot kneel on someone's neck while they're already in handcuffs, especially if they appear to be grossly incapacitated by narcotics or liquor

5. Even if they have 7 prior convictions, including armed robbery and assault

6. You cannot engage in a dangerous high speed chase on surface streets, no matter how exciting it is, and how fast you think your cruiser is. Call ahead for 'spike strips".

7. You cannot shoot INTO a vehicle which is stopped or disabled, unless someone is shooting at you in the first place.

8. You cannot offer to let someone off a speeding charge or other traffic violation in exchange for a blowjob

9. You cannot use social media to air your disapproval of blacks, jews, Mexicans, muslims, democrats, or gay people.

10. Treat every suspect, in custody or not, as if they were they mayors son/daughter, right through booking at the precinct house.

Rules for friends and relatives of victims of police misconduct . . .

1. No rioting or looting

2. Don't go on camera to assert that you son was innocent of the crimes he already did time for.

3. If you see mobs rioting or looting, and they're not you're own race, consider that your tragedy is possibly being exploited by someone for their own gain.

4. Urge people to take revenge at the ballot box, if reform has been slow in coming to your community.

5. avoid photo ops with out of town preachers

6. avoid signing big dollar wrongful death contracts with the first out of town lawyer you meet.

7. consider "weapons return day" if you have illegal handguns in your home which others might get ahold of - especially teens.

8. Assume you're being followed, and that your phones are illegally tapped, to impugn your character by publicizing what you say and do.

9. Be better than those who have injured you.

10. If you get a large cash award from the city or county for police misconduct, consider setting most or all of it aside for the deceased victim's children. They'll need it more than you will.
You're right, of course; however, Rush Limbaugh has impressed upon his ditto heads that everyone MUST do what the police say.

Therefore, if you don't do what they say, the police have a right to shoot you, at close range, in the back, even seven times if they want.
 
So, if you cannot tell if the person has a weapon or not, you should assume they don't?

I'm not sure that is correct.
In a combat zone like 'Nam you had to assume everyone was armed, potentially of course. Some assumed a bit too much.
I never liked seeing the attitudes of wholesale slaughter or burning villages.
 
For police, absolutely.

On the battlefield, you follow the Geneva convention, and the rules of engagement laid out by your commander.

You don't shoot anything that moves. Disregarding that has led to uncountable friendly fire deaths and civilian atrocities.

Thank goodness you're not carrying a gun and wearing a uniform.

That's not 100% accurate.

Listen, I'm responsible and can admit we don't know all the details and thus we cannot possibly fully size up the situation. Joe Biden isn't responsible and has already declared it to be a wrongful shooting, and thus these riots are partially his fault for gaslighting and making claims he cannot possibly know. Biden was very stupid and foolish, and it cost people their livelihoods and well-being. A cop got hit in the head with a brick and nearly died. That's partially on Biden.

However, police have the right to use force the moment the criminal reaches into the car, a criminal who is very likely going for some sort of weapon\ (after already being in physical altercation with police, having criminal record, resisting arrest, and walking away) they tell him to stop, the person doesn't stop... they reach in.. what are they reaching for? Given the already violent circumstances.. do cops have to put their lives on the line and wait to try to Matrix some bullets?

Hell, even looking at the purposefully edited video, you can see his angry powerwalking can make one think that he wasn't going to put the car in Neutral. And if he was brandishing a knife and had a gun in the car? And even told police he was going to get his gun? I've heard these things.. I won't irresponsibly and stupidly claim them as fact like a Joe Biden, but we're talking hypotheticals here.

The police would be well within their rights to shoot if he was indeed all of those were true... he was reaching for a gun, got shot a few times, and still went to get it and began pointing it at officers, who then shot some more.

What's more tragic than a criminal who made individual choices being killed in an avoidable situation is a police officer who gets killed by a criminal who exploited an officer who was afraid to hold proper standards for fear of being "racist".

The criminal had choices, the cop simply was sacrificed for a political ideology.
 
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That's not 100% accurate.

Listen, I'm responsible and can admit we don't know all the details and thus we cannot possibly fully size up the situation. Joe Biden isn't responsible and has already declared it to be a wrongful shooting, and thus these riots are partially his fault for gaslighting and making claims he cannot possibly know. Biden was very stupid and foolish, and it cost people their livelihoods and well-being. A cop got hit in the head with a brick and nearly died. That's partially on Biden.

However, police have the right to use force the moment the criminal reaches into the car, a criminal who is very likely going for some sort of weapon\ (after already being in physical altercation with police, having criminal record, resisting arrest, and walking away) they tell him to stop, the person doesn't stop... they reach in.. what are they reaching for? Given the already violent circumstances.. do cops have to put their lives on the line and wait to try to Matrix some bullets?

Hell, even looking at the purposefully edited video, you can see his angry powerwalking can make one think that he wasn't going to put the car in Neutral. And if he was brandishing a knife and had a gun in the car? And even told police he was going to get his gun? I've heard these things.. I won't irresponsibly and stupidly claim them as fact like a Joe Biden, but we're talking hypotheticals here.

The police would be well within their rights to shoot if he was indeed reaching for a gun, got shot a few times, and still went to get it and began pointing it at officers, who then shot some more.
I served on the citizens advisory board of the Baltimore police department a decade ago when I lived there. I've reviewed their academy training materials. I can assure you - at least in that city - police have no right to shoot indiscriminately under the impression a citizen in a traffic stop might be reaching for something.

Please review the police academy materials in your own town, and let us know what it says.
 
You're right, of course; however, Rush Limbaugh has impressed upon his ditto heads that everyone MUST do what the police say.

Therefore, if you don't do what they say, the police have a right to shoot you, at close range, in the back, even seven times if they want.
I can't tell if youre trolling, or being satiric.
 
I served on the citizens advisory board of the Baltimore police department a decade ago when I lived there. I've reviewed their academy training materials. I can assure you - at least in that city - police have no right to shoot indiscriminately under the impression a citizen in a traffic stop might be reaching for something.

Please review the police academy materials in your own town, and let us know what it says.

You left out multiple factors

It wasn't just a person reaching for something at a traffic stop.

It was a person who was already physical and violent with police, possibly branding a weapon, possibly saying they have a gun in the car and insinuating they're going to use it, strongly walking away from police to the car, and reaching into the car.

In that situation.. would you say police aren't allowed to shoot? Let's be intellectually honest and stop leaving things out.
 
You left out multiple factors

It wasn't just a person reaching for something at a traffic stop.

It was a person who was already physical and violent with police, possibly branding a weapon, possibly saying they have a gun in the car and insinuating they're going to use it, strongly walking away from police to the car, and reaching into the car.

In that situation.. would you say police aren't allowed to shoot? Let's be intellectually honest and stop leaving things out.
"Let's be intellectually honest and stop leaving out made-up scenarios tailor-made to fit a predetermined narrative."
 
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