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About the closing of the Gitmo prison....

Bugsy McGurk

Bugsy McGurk

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Do Republican ever feel thoroughly ridiculous for carping that Obama "broke his promise" to close the Gitmo prison, when it was GOP obstructionism that prevented the closing of the Gitmo prison?
 
Lots of Republicans starting screaming like frightened old ladies about "Gitmo" closing....Some were hysterical with fear.....The whole operation at Guantanamo is a disgrace....It should be shut down...Bull Dozed...and Given back to the Cuban people...The US has no business there
 
Bugsy McGurk said:
Do Republican ever feel thoroughly ridiculous for carping that Obama "broke his promise" to close the Gitmo prison, when it was GOP obstructionism that prevented the closing of the Gitmo prison?
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During the first two years of his term, President Obama enjoyed having his party control both the House and the Senate by substantial majorities. If he really wanted 'Gitmo' closed, no one could have possibly stopped him, except, of course, his own party. Everyone knows this except for those who are bad at math.
 
Some of the so-called Democrats didn't support it ....All the Republicans went wild with fear.....Looking like frightened cowards.....When the President is re-elected I hope they get rid of that disgrace to America...For good
 
Zam-Zam said:
During the first two years of his term, President Obama enjoyed having his party control both the House and the Senate by substantial majorities. If he really wanted 'Gitmo' closed, no one could have possibly stopped him, except, of course, his own party. Everyone knows this except for those who are bad at math.
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Completely false. Nothing like that could get by the record-shattering GOP filibustering machine in the Senate.
 
Bugsy McGurk said:
Completely false. Nothing like that could get by the record-shattering GOP filibustering machine in the Senate.
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I'll give you an opportunity to prove your point. Show me a news story where Obama, during his first two years in office, put forth legislation to close Guantanamo Bay, and a Republican filibuster prevented it. I'll wait.
 
Number_58 said:
Funny...how were the GOP able to override an Obama executive order that was issued to close Gitmo on 1/22/09? Looks to me like he let it expire for some reason...now, tell me again, how did the GOP override a Presidential Executive Order?

http://un-truth.com/human-rights/obamas-executive-order-to-close-guantanamo-expired-yesterday
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Hello? Because it couldn't be accomplished via executive order alone.

Among other things, the GOP blocked laws allowing for the prisoners to be moved to a supermax US prison.
 
The Cuban people would love to get rid of the US Military and the Gulag they have at "Gitmo" .....Time for America to give Guantanamo back to it's rightful owners....Put on trial and charge or release the detainees...Do it...Do it Now
 
He didn't need congressional approval to do so...don't let them mislead you. Obama issued an executive order on 1/22/09 to close Gitmo and instead of following through with it, let it expire in 2010. I wonder if one of these jokers can tell me the Congressional action that was taken to override that EO?
 
Zam-Zam said:
I'll give you an opportunity to prove your point. Show me a news story where Obama, during his first two years in office, put forth legislation to close Guantanamo Bay, and a Republican filibuster prevented it. I'll wait.
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Actually, sane people know not to push laws that they know will fail due to filibusters. You're accustomed to the GOP pushing laws they know will fail, and have been led to believe that everyone should watse time and money the same way.
 
Number_58 said:
He didn't need congressional approval to do so...don't let them mislead you. Obama issued an executive order on 1/22/09 to close Gitmo and instead of following through with it, let it expire in 2010. I wonder if one of these jokers can tell me the Congressional action that was taken to override that EO?
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See my post above, and try to pay attention.
 
Executive order Bullshit...Why is the US Military still there in the first place?.....Time to shut it down ...Save the Tax payer some money...
 
What?! His executive order wasn't enough? Since when? Are you going to tell me that there weren't countries in Europe that had agreed to take the prisoners? Give me a break and quit spinning before you fall over. You're wrong on this and anyone that does a couple simple internet searches will discover that you're lying.
 
I gave you the links proving you're lying about this...

Pick whichever you wish to read regarding the Executive Order

Link

Then pick whichever you wish to read about countries willing to take the detainees...

Link
 
Number_58 said:
What?! His executive order wasn't enough? Since when? Are you going to tell me that there weren't countries in Europe that had agreed to take the prisoners? Give me a break and quit spinning before you fall over. You're wrong on this and anyone that does a couple simple internet searches will discover that you're lying.
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You're learning. It could not be done without congressional cooperation, which the GOP prevented through their demagoguery, claiming that the terrorists could escape from our supermax prisons, when no one has ever escaped from a supermax prison.

Drifting off to Europe does you no good - no one proposed that, nor is Europe a very good place for US prisoners.
 
Continue with your lies...anyone with any integrity whatsoever knows what I'm saying is true...I've provided the links to back up my claims...hell, I gave you your choice to read whichever you wanted...you, not so much.
 
Bugsy McGurk said:
Actually, sane people know not to push laws that they know will fail due to filibusters. You're accustomed to the GOP pushing laws they know will fail, and have been led to believe that everyone should watse time and money the same way.
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So you failed to produce anything to support your claim. Of course you did, you were doomed from the start, because the "Republican filibuster' never happened. Here's what did:


Administration officials lay blame for the failed initiative on Congress, including Democrats who deserted the president, sometimes in droves. The debate, they said, became suffused with fear — fear that transferring detainees to American soil would create a genuine security threat, fear that closing Guantanamo would be electoral suicide. Some Democratic lawmakers pleaded with the White House not to press too hard, according to administration officials.

Complete text: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...ht-to-close-it/2011/04/14/AFtxR5XE_story.html


So, it was Democrats who failed to back the President on Guantanamo Bay. There's your "obstructionists". lay the blame, or credit, where it belongs.
 
I agree...get out and get rid of them. Now, all Obama has to do is issue another Executive Order...and let the European countries that were willing to take them before have at them. I've provided my links to prove what I have claimed...haven't seen any from you guys yet. But, don't let that get in the way of your lies and ignorance.
 
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