Are women blameless?

[Queen Titania]

Should women not 'train' their men better? - Do we really want to beat our men? I mean, is 'the battle of the sexes' worth winning and therefore losing? Because we are partners 'in crime' are we not? And women are the most powerful - mother earth and all that -

At the moment men are not my favorates, after an episode with my next door neighbour - male - who has just anihilated my hedge so that he can spy on me ( and said as much ) and not only anihilated it but thrown it all over my side, destroying my flowers and veg and such like ohhhhh grrrrrr - but I blame his wife for not training him! Or at the very least not warning me ------------------- I can't walk down the garden for the mess - and all along the front of my property, most of what he cut was nothing to do with him, it was my side and didn't impinge on his property - It was first thing in the morn - I had just got back from my nieces Graduation and a three day family celebration in Lincoln (they knew this ) so when he said I am just cutting the few taller thingys I said OK - huh! It was rape! The poor birds all lost their homes - it was a most brutal anihilation! with me running after him saying No please don't cut that - he ignored me -

I would never have allowed a fella of mine to do that - and I know of no bachelor who would have been such a brute -

Last time he devastated my front hedge I had a go at his Mrs - she was so protective of his right to cut any hedge anywhere and of anybodies! - but, who wants to argue with neighbours? no one - so I gave an inch -
and he has taken 500 miles - I blame her, no true woman would allow her man to treat another woman with such disrespect - women who do not train their men are a bane -



;-)

 

[Queen Titania]

I rather gabbled that - I am so cross

He dumped, in front of my property his clippings from my hedge which I had just cut , by hand, as I like it - a bit wild but lovingly and to my mind -beautiful - plus all the earth and dusts from down his side path and up our shared steps

And my back garden is now a mountain - of - the tall vertical sprouts from the shared hedge -cool I agreed to that with some, which he totally ignored, specifications - don't want to be over looked and protection for one aviary and the wild birds nests, leave overhang, especially where daughters bike lives - but it was a covered walk way down my path - none of which would have cut out his sunlight - BUT - he has cut bits i have purposefully left and allowed to grow and cultured for years - zzzzzzzzzzzzoooooom with his bloody machine - my dogs graves are also now trampled on, their little plants smashed - wtf - and The She Wolf will protect that?

If he has been a bachelor it would not have happened, no way, not in a million years - because and only because he is a married man did he think he could - and did -

Do you see what I mean?

 

[Queen Titania]

So, neither sex will answer me - so we are lost. unless we work together and at the same time in union with our own sex we are lost -

 

[Carlsen]

A guy he should never hit a girl

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[bdtex]

Should women not 'train' their men better? - Do we really want to beat our men? I mean, is 'the battle of the sexes' worth winning and therefore losing? Because we are partners 'in crime' are we not? And women are the most powerful - mother earth and all that -

At the moment men are not my favorates, after an episode with my next door neighbour - male - who has just anihilated my hedge so that he can spy on me ( and said as much ) and not only anihilated it but thrown it all over my side, destroying my flowers and veg and such like ohhhhh grrrrrr - but I blame his wife for not training him! Or at the very least not warning me ------------------- I can't walk down the garden for the mess - and all along the front of my property, most of what he cut was nothing to do with him, it was my side and didn't impinge on his property - It was first thing in the morn - I had just got back from my nieces Graduation and a three day family celebration in Lincoln (they knew this ) so when he said I am just cutting the few taller thingys I said OK - huh! It was rape! The poor birds all lost their homes - it was a most brutal anihilation! with me running after him saying No please don't cut that - he ignored me -

I would never have allowed a fella of mine to do that - and I know of no bachelor who would have been such a brute -

Last time he devastated my front hedge I had a go at his Mrs - she was so protective of his right to cut any hedge anywhere and of anybodies! - but, who wants to argue with neighbours? no one - so I gave an inch -
and he has taken 500 miles - I blame her, no true woman would allow her man to treat another woman with such disrespect - women who do not train their men are a bane -



;-)

Train us? My parents taught me to respect others' property and pride of ownership of my property.

 

[Queen Titania]

Train us? My parents taught me to respect others' property and pride of ownership of my property.

Lol - I was just venting - I believe you and most people are so, at least most people I know are, including myself - I still can't believe what he has done to my garden - I am in shock, really it is as though there was some sort of monster wizzed threw it, one day it is a paradise and the next a devastated ugly wasteland - the Postman this morning just looked at it with his mouth open - so it is not just me - My neighbour on the other side too - she was speechless - which is very unusual -

I said to my neighbour - on the other side - 'women who don't train their men properly are a bane on society'! and we laughed - what else can one do? - it is true though - in all my relationships we have each come out better people - how can you live with and allow your partner to treat others like shi't? he said ' now I can keep an eye on you and see what you are up to' - Well fuc'k hedges I am going to plant trees! in his bloody eye view - if I ever manage to clear up the mess -

lol - 'tis war I tell ya - just wondering what trees I should plant

 

[bdtex]

Lol - I was just venting - I believe you and most people are so, at least most people I know are, including myself - I still can't believe what he has done to my garden - I am in shock, really it is as though there was some sort of monster wizzed threw it, one day it is a paradise and the next a devastated ugly wasteland - the Postman this morning just looked at it with his mouth open - so it is not just me - My neighbour on the other side too - she was speechless - which is very unusual -

I said to my neighbour - on the other side - 'women who don't train their men properly are a bane on society'! and we laughed - what else can one do? - it is true though - in all my relationships we have each come out better people - how can you live with and allow your partner to treat others like shi't? he said ' now I can keep an eye on you and see what you are up to' - Well fuc'k hedges I am going to plant trees! in his bloody eye view - if I ever manage to clear up the mess -

lol - 'tis war I tell ya - just wondering what trees I should plant

I know. It's worse than you first described. Plant mesquite trees. They're hell to kill.

 

[Jen]

I rather gabbled that - I am so cross

He dumped, in front of my property his clippings from my hedge which I had just cut , by hand, as I like it - a bit wild but lovingly and to my mind -beautiful - plus all the earth and dusts from down his side path and up our shared steps

And my back garden is now a mountain - of - the tall vertical sprouts from the shared hedge -cool I agreed to that with some, which he totally ignored, specifications - don't want to be over looked and protection for one aviary and the wild birds nests, leave overhang, especially where daughters bike lives - but it was a covered walk way down my path - none of which would have cut out his sunlight - BUT - he has cut bits i have purposefully left and allowed to grow and cultured for years - zzzzzzzzzzzzoooooom with his bloody machine - my dogs graves are also now trampled on, their little plants smashed - wtf - and The She Wolf will protect that?

If he has been a bachelor it would not have happened, no way, not in a million years - because and only because he is a married man did he think he could - and did -

Do you see what I mean?

I'm not getting it.
My husband goes out into the yard and does whatever he wishes with my blessing.
I am not pleased if he chooses to mow right after a rain and his "tractor" (as he likes to call it) puts ruts all over the yard.............but hey........... I am not about to drive that motorcycle he calls a tractor without a helmet, and he doesn't want me out there on his tractor for the world to see -- wearing a helmet. So....... he gets to enjoy his rut-making and I don't talk about it.

I'm all for live and let live.
But if a neighbor was cutting down my hedge......... then we'd have a little chat about how it was to be done in the off-season (so there would be no dangerous cutlery in anyone's hands).

 

[Queen Titania]

I know. It's worse than you first described. Plant mesquite trees. They're hell to kill.

Ooooohh thats an idea

 

[Queen Titania]

I'm not getting it.
My husband goes out into the yard and does whatever he wishes with my blessing.
I am not pleased if he chooses to mow right after a rain and his "tractor" (as he likes to call it) puts ruts all over the yard.............but hey........... I am not about to drive that motorcycle he calls a tractor without a helmet, and he doesn't want me out there on his tractor for the world to see -- wearing a helmet. So....... he gets to enjoy his rut-making and I don't talk about it.

I'm all for live and let live.
But if a neighbor was cutting down my hedge......... then we'd have a little chat about how it was to be done in the off-season (so there would be no dangerous cutlery in anyone's hands).

I did - or rather we did have that chat before I went away - he just ignored everything I had said even as I went running out saying stop! -

Oh well it is back to keeping them, neighbours, at arms length, even ignoring them if I must and on to bdtexs Misquite Tree ;-) and another couple or three years to train my arch again - and since under that arch my daughter kept her bike, putting up with Ts old bike in the kitchen all winter!
But he is a letch and until I allowed the hedge to grow higher than he wanted on my side did stand and watch me from his bedroom window when I was in the garden. Not that I do anything exciting out there but it was creepy - hey ho - the trials and tribulations eh? ;-)
It is what it is - A mile bloody high bloody pile of dead hedge on my flower beds and lawn ----and and and he broke my washing line and and and - ! ;-)

I think I have finished ranting about it now - mmmmmm maybe -

 

[Queen Titania]

Nope - I haven't it has actually turned into a comedy -

My sister came over to help me move some of the cut off branches and twigs and - the heap. She was so shocked at what had been done she didn't know what to do for about half an hour she was aghast - honest it looks as though a tornado has passed through, impossible to get down the garden and almost impossible to feed my birds, I nearly broke my neck doing so yesterday --- oh anyway I've said all that --

She said at first, 'if either of them come home I will have to say something - i can't stay silent this is absolutely abominable' I know her! lol I had calmed down by then but she was like me at first - just unbelieving of anyone treating another so and all my plants and veg, my little trees, herbs Sunnies Grave were all trashed etc at one point she suddenly realized she was actually standing in what had been a favorate flower bed - where are your plants? my God! - and was making a cuppa when next door wife came home - Oh dear - ' Sis was not rude or even aggressive she just said, have you seen the devastation in my sister garden?' and the conversation stayed calm and polite - I stayed back because I felt too emotional and two against one ain't fair but them began, from wiffy - 'he was only trying to help her' and then told my sister to be quiet because she wanted to talk so I stepped in - and told it as it happened and what the devastation is - which she can see anyway - and then she became the victim for a min and then turned went inside and said ' Now I am upset!' - , she is upset! As sis and I were struggling with 'the heap' she came out side and started making funny little screamy noises and then banging her dustbin lids - weird - when sis was going, I walked up the steps to say good bye - wifey ran out of her house huffing and puffing jumped in her car and screeched off - which was quite funny 'cos she is just a little round ball -

I did feel sorry for her even though it was funny, I always do BUT - when one of my dogs was suddenly taken ill - his stomach was bloating and he was screaming I ran next door to her to ask her to take us to the Vets - she said NO, later she apologized but later didn't help eh? - and other stuff - I never say no if they ask me favours -

But now we have a situation, eh?

 

[Queen Titania]

Gone into the legalities and as I thought, all the cuttings from their hedge are his/theirs - legally if I cut anything from that hedge they are theirs and I have to ask them what they want me do do with them. Legally it is their duty to maintain the hedge even on my side of it IF ------and only IF I ask them too, I did not, the opposite in fact, otherwise I may do as I please, which I was doing - and any roots which are in my Land I may cut and give back to them -

So the branches and cuttings must be given back - I am going to get more legal advice and shall write to them to ask where they want them deposited on their property - Sis and I shall give them back to their rightful owners next week -

Jesus I have heard of people having these sorts of problems - Never in a million years did I think it would be me! Oh life - I live a quiet life, keep myself to myself but am friendly when I meet people on the street - helpful if they need help ect -
Women living alone are always targeted by these bloody bullies but I really was taken off guard -

 

[fairsheet]

Should women not 'train' their men better? - Do we really want to beat our men? I mean, is 'the battle of the sexes' worth winning and therefore losing? Because we are partners 'in crime' are we not? And women are the most powerful - mother earth and all that -

At the moment men are not my favorates, after an episode with my next door neighbour - male - who has just anihilated my hedge so that he can spy on me ( and said as much ) and not only anihilated it but thrown it all over my side, destroying my flowers and veg and such like ohhhhh grrrrrr - but I blame his wife for not training him! Or at the very least not warning me ------------------- I can't walk down the garden for the mess - and all along the front of my property, most of what he cut was nothing to do with him, it was my side and didn't impinge on his property - It was first thing in the morn - I had just got back from my nieces Graduation and a three day family celebration in Lincoln (they knew this ) so when he said I am just cutting the few taller thingys I said OK - huh! It was rape! The poor birds all lost their homes - it was a most brutal anihilation! with me running after him saying No please don't cut that - he ignored me -

I would never have allowed a fella of mine to do that - and I know of no bachelor who would have been such a brute -

Last time he devastated my front hedge I had a go at his Mrs - she was so protective of his right to cut any hedge anywhere and of anybodies! - but, who wants to argue with neighbours? no one - so I gave an inch -
and he has taken 500 miles - I blame her, no true woman would allow her man to treat another woman with such disrespect - women who do not train their men are a bane -



;-)

Make what you will of "Lysistrata". Nature appears to some, to've given the advantage to the male. That's up to you.

 

[Queen Titania]

Make what you will of "Lysistrata". Nature appears to some, to've given the advantage to the male. That's up to you.

My statement was 'tongue in cheek'-ish but as my sis and I found out this particular woman - first plays the victim and then becomes totally hysterical and then goes to bed with the vapors- that is obviously the way she has 'trained' her man-not.

It isn't my business what my next door neighbours do or don't do in their home on their side of the fence - as it isn't theirs what I do - He spies on me, he used to phone me pretending to be a client as did his son and Pa in Law ( he and his Pa in Law like three somes 'PainLaw does the humping and I do the twiddly' were his actual words -yuk-) I am not stupid they never got close to making an appointment and I don't care what they do or don't do in their home.
As a neighbour I am easy and friendly I have always said yes to any favour she has asked - when my Teddy Bear was suddenly taken ill and I begged her to take us to the vet, she said No and closed the door on me.
I'm quiet, not tippy toe quiet, I just don't make much noise even my dogs only barked when guarding, they have noisy machines going on from morn til night some days especially at the weekends and in the Summer - I have or rather had a very pretty secluded, peaceful but wild garden, theirs looks as though someone manicured it with nail sissors - I have never impinged on them, they have destroyed my pretty sanctuary. But she is the victim - not much training went on there eh?
She behaved like a silly spoilt child when my sister tried talking to her - my sis said 'what sort of woman is that?' - it was ridiculous, even comical - And I know, from other sources he is a letch and a brute - so - how dare she set him on me? It was she who insisted he cut the hedge as they wanted it not he - I can't explain how I know this because it is only through nuances in what both of them have said - she set her brute on me - I am not vengeful and will have forgotten this in a couple of weeks but they are getting their hedge back - legally it is theirs not mine - and I am not going to be their victim - She likes playing it -cool. Once it is back in their territory - I'll let it go and mend my little paradise -

It is quite interesting I suppose - though the two never interested me much before - how much we realize about people by simply living in close proximity to them even though we might not have registered it -

 

[Queen Titania]

It is now 13.15 on a Saturday afternoon - he has been in his back garden since dawn with noisy smell machines going none stop - no one else in the vicinity can enjoy their week end in their gardens - usually one hears children playing, not a one, they are all inside.

 

[Fast Eddy]

It sounds like your neighbor is a bit unstable, so be careful. Based on your reactions, it is worthy of seeking legal advice, may for retribution, but that may not be worth what it brings, may a discussion on what you should do with your property so you get what you want and he can't do anything in the future. Fences make the best neighbors!
Got luck on resolving you issues.

I really object to the idea that women should train their men. There is a whole lot of manipulation already and that is not right. Men are not seals to be trained.

 

[Queen Titania]

It sounds like your neighbor is a bit unstable, so be careful. Based on your reactions, it is worthy of seeking legal advice, may for retribution, but that may not be worth what it brings, may a discussion on what you should do with your property so you get what you want and he can't do anything in the future. Fences make the best neighbors!
Got luck on resolving you issues.

I really object to the idea that women should train their men. There is a whole lot of manipulation already and that is not right. Men are not seals to be trained.

Lol you are a defensive lot - women who train their men well have men who have no idea that they are not wild beasties still ------------- joking, just joking -

Yup I did the legal trawl - on line and on the phone - on the phone all reactions were that I could have him prosecuted for criminal damage - so I wrote the 'without prejudice letter' and as well as stating the Law said I would be returning his property - lol - my sister still has the giggles as do both our daughters at the picture of what sis and I did next - he day the 'without prejudice' letter should have arrived.
I was still fuming and adamant that he was getting his hedge back - over the hedge! Refusing help from men who felt obliged to offer it, saying it would just cause more trouble ect much to their relief - actually I have always found men to be terrible wimps in confrontational situations and or they would have come to a mens' agreement with the enemy!
We are talking about a pile of branches and cuttings of a least 30ft in length maybe more - 8ft and more wide and 6ft high in places - some of the branches I couldn't pick up by my self and sis is, well - she has a brain tumor and looses her balance easily and really isn't very strong - lol so here we were about to throw it all over a hedge which is way over 6ft high probably nearer 7ft and about 3ft wide loooooooool I can't stop giggling now - me on the ladder in 'painting the ceiling mode' sis feeding me handlable branches and tiny weeny bundles of twigs which went flying every where - I started to feel guilty after about half an hour and thought we should have a cuppa - sis agreed to cuppa but thought we should get as much over as poss today - honestly - after an hour and a half we had barely touched the heap and their little tree was bending- I couldn't see what was on the other side - so for the sake of their little tree we decided to stop - instead I dragged three huge branches and planted them outside their front door - with some adjustments, to sisters satisfaction, so that they could actually get into their front door.
I was still emotionally fu'cked up, as the Dutch would say, sis insisted I stayed with her another night - the next evening I heard him sawing up the returned branches and putting them in his car boot -

Anyway any anyway - long story short by this morning I had calmed down and was feeling sorry for next door - the letter was very legal sounding, took me long enough to write! and so scarry for them I expect - I had thrown missiles over their hedge, be they their property or not - and plonked branches in front of their door - Oh and I had, when she was beating up her dustbins - said 'barbarian' and 'brute' and something about 'war' rather loudly in conversation with sis - bit ashamed of that but - hey she was banging dustbin lids! I am usually so laid back and easy going and I smile and laugh quite a lot so they must have wondered what the fu'ck had hit them - poor things. But they bloody learned their lesson eh? I still couldn't see it that way yesterday - but was still talking to legal bods and shit on the phone and as I was talking realized who I was talking about - just two hard working people who got their shit muddled up and stepped over the line - and me being on the other side of that line was so rudely - I dunno how to describe it really when your peace and tranquility is so unexpectedly devastated by a man with a machine in his hand - leaving birds sitting on the roof wondering wtf happened to their wintered in homes scratching their heads and me wide eyed, I had hardly slept, in my night attire ( I was so tired I'd slept in my cloths, a long pink dress) so bedraggled and looking down at what had been my wild-ish little paradise to a mountain of what had been the wild birds paradise -

I woke early this morn, about 6 and by 8 I felt I really didn't want them to go through the week end wondering what is coming next, living in fear, so went round - they were just coming out - he looked a bit startled and she tight faced and really unhappy, I said 'its OK I've calmed down' and went on about this must be resolved and lightened it with shit about 'men and their machines' and he being 'a man of few words' who had not actually said what he thought he had said ect - I had to be diplomatic, and so early in the morn, because I quickly realized he had told her some porkies but - anyway - he is coming to take hedge away and - phew! I can only try to mend the damage to my garden and perhaps they will not be so heavy footed/handed in another situation down the road -

What an odd little episode -

It used to be 1066 now if you really want to know if someone is English ask them about the Laws pertaining to hedges - Sis and I were right about them, it seems to be an inbuilt knowledge which according to the huge amount of hedge related civil cases is being lost/forgotten.

Lol - he is out there now cutting the hedge on the other side - his neighbours hedge I do hope he asked first! loooooooooooooooooooooool

I'm going for a bath - toodle

ps - lol - as I was trying to explain the Laws this morn, in my pjs and a shawl, on their door step, to him, I thought I saw some computing going on - do you suppose he will throw the cuttings of his other neighbours hedge, over the said hedge, so, the other way?

 

[Fast Eddy]

Lol you are a defensive lot - women who train their men well have men who have no idea that they are not wild beasties still ------------- joking, just joking -

Yup I did the legal trawl - on line and on the phone - on the phone all reactions were that I could have him prosecuted for criminal damage - so I wrote the 'without prejudice letter' and as well as stating the Law said I would be returning his property - lol - my sister still has the giggles as do both our daughters at the picture of what sis and I did next - he day the 'without prejudice' letter should have arrived.
I was still fuming and adamant that he was getting his hedge back - over the hedge! Refusing help from men who felt obliged to offer it, saying it would just cause more trouble ect much to their relief - actually I have always found men to be terrible wimps in confrontational situations and or they would have come to a mens' agreement with the enemy!
We are talking about a pile of branches and cuttings of a least 30ft in length maybe more - 8ft and more wide and 6ft high in places - some of the branches I couldn't pick up by my self and sis is, well - she has a brain tumor and looses her balance easily and really isn't very strong - lol so here we were about to throw it all over a hedge which is way over 6ft high probably nearer 7ft and about 3ft wide loooooooool I can't stop giggling now - me on the ladder in 'painting the ceiling mode' sis feeding me handlable branches and tiny weeny bundles of twigs which went flying every where - I started to feel guilty after about half an hour and thought we should have a cuppa - sis agreed to cuppa but thought we should get as much over as poss today - honestly - after an hour and a half we had barely touched the heap and their little tree was bending- I couldn't see what was on the other side - so for the sake of their little tree we decided to stop - instead I dragged three huge branches and planted them outside their front door - with some adjustments, to sisters satisfaction, so that they could actually get into their front door.
I was still emotionally fu'cked up, as the Dutch would say, sis insisted I stayed with her another night - the next evening I heard him sawing up the returned branches and putting them in his car boot -

Anyway any anyway - long story short by this morning I had calmed down and was feeling sorry for next door - the letter was very legal sounding, took me long enough to write! and so scarry for them I expect - I had thrown missiles over their hedge, be they their property or not - and plonked branches in front of their door - Oh and I had, when she was beating up her dustbins - said 'barbarian' and 'brute' and something about 'war' rather loudly in conversation with sis - bit ashamed of that but - hey she was banging dustbin lids! I am usually so laid back and easy going and I smile and laugh quite a lot so they must have wondered what the fu'ck had hit them - poor things. But they bloody learned their lesson eh? I still couldn't see it that way yesterday - but was still talking to legal bods and shit on the phone and as I was talking realized who I was talking about - just two hard working people who got their shit muddled up and stepped over the line - and me being on the other side of that line was so rudely - I dunno how to describe it really when your peace and tranquility is so unexpectedly devastated by a man with a machine in his hand - leaving birds sitting on the roof wondering wtf happened to their wintered in homes scratching their heads and me wide eyed, I had hardly slept, in my night attire ( I was so tired I'd slept in my cloths, a long pink dress) so bedraggled and looking down at what had been my wild-ish little paradise to a mountain of what had been the wild birds paradise -

I woke early this morn, about 6 and by 8 I felt I really didn't want them to go through the week end wondering what is coming next, living in fear, so went round - they were just coming out - he looked a bit startled and she tight faced and really unhappy, I said 'its OK I've calmed down' and went on about this must be resolved and lightened it with shit about 'men and their machines' and he being 'a man of few words' who had not actually said what he thought he had said ect - I had to be diplomatic, and so early in the morn, because I quickly realized he had told her some porkies but - anyway - he is coming to take hedge away and - phew! I can only try to mend the damage to my garden and perhaps they will not be so heavy footed/handed in another situation down the road -

What an odd little episode -

It used to be 1066 now if you really want to know if someone is English ask them about the Laws pertaining to hedges - Sis and I were right about them, it seems to be an inbuilt knowledge which according to the huge amount of hedge related civil cases is being lost/forgotten.

Lol - he is out there now cutting the hedge on the other side - his neighbours hedge I do hope he asked first! loooooooooooooooooooooool

I'm going for a bath - toodle

ps - lol - as I was trying to explain the Laws this morn, in my pjs and a shawl, on their door step, to him, I thought I saw some computing going on - do you suppose he will throw the cuttings of his other neighbours hedge, over the said hedge, so, the other way?

What a fascinating story you tell. I'm glad you talked with the legals as that is a good step. You sister sounds like a supportive, fun gal!
You understand the problem well, men and their machines. I live on a farm with several tractors and some great attachments. Why own them if you don't use them and its amazing the things one can dream up to put machinery in motion.
At least you got through the initial contact without either side escalating, that is a big step and usually the point where things break down.
A good trick we use state wide to keep neighbors in check is to clean your guns out in the open, it sends a message, but I think you in the UK are limited.

It sounds like your on a good path - good luck!

 

[Fast Eddy]

Queen - I'm still not buying into the Training/joking part, I detect some subliminal feelings in said area. For now I will drop it with a LOL, but....

 

[Queen Titania]

Queen - I'm still not buying into the Training/joking part, I detect some subliminal feelings in said area. For now I will drop it with a LOL, but....

Sweety, I was teasing ;-)

Even in anger I am quite funny - sometimes -

In a sense we do all 'train' each other all through life - Um but yup we can talk about it if and when you want too