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Brain Damage and Conservatism

Arkady

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On another thread we were talking about falling IQs, late in life, and how it coincides with a decline into political conservatism as people age. That got me thinking about the question of whether brain damage and conservatism might be tied when it comes to artificial damage as well as natural decline.

First, recall the recent research showing a correlation between lead exposure and violent crime. Basically, the theory is that high lead exposure, from lead in paint and leaded gasoline being burned, damaged people's brains in ways that made them more violent, resulting in a long increase of violent crime. Environmentalists pushed through regulations to reduce lead contamination and exposure started dropping in the mid-1970s. When that generation hit its peak crime years, in the mid 90s, there was a resulting drop in violent crime. As a greater and greater share of the crime-aged population was made up of people raised without violence-triggering lead damage in their brains, the violent crime rate kept dropping, and has now reached half its previous level. Research is continuing on this issue, but there's at least preliminary data supporting this theory not just in this recent crime spike and fall in the US, but in earlier crime waves, and in parallel trends in other countries, around their introduction and phase-out of leaded gas.

So, if early lead exposure can have such a profound impact on the brain as to make people twice as likely to commit rapes and murders when they grow up, isn't it reasonable to think it could be having an impact on subtler things like political leanings? Is it possible that brain damage caused by lead is responsible for political conservatism in some people?

If this were true, what we'd expect to see is a growing conservatism in political voting patterns roughly mirroring the rise in violent tendencies. This appears to be the case: for a quarter century, as violent crime rates were rising to an all-time peak in the early 1990s, the Republicans held the White House for all but four years (and even those four years were led by a fundamentalist Southern Baptist military vet and farmer from rural Georgia -- exactly the kind of token Democrat we'd expect to have a fighting chance during a conservative-dominated era.)

Then, starting around the time when less lead-addled brains were first reaching their voting years, things began to change, politically. Bill Clinton took the White House, swept in on the strength of particularly strong support by younger voters, even as older people continued to favor Republicans. The Democrats won the presidency again in 1996 and 2000 (though Bush was appointed president, contrary to the will of the People, by a few elderly Supreme Court conservatives that year). In 2004, the Republicans won the White House, but that was despite Kerry winning a clear majority among those least likely to have brain damage from lead poisoning. Kerry had a nine-point win among those born from the mid-1970s onward. And, of course, Obama won two convincing victories, with particular strength among the post-lead-poisoning generations.

Because voting doesn't have the same "prime age" bump as violent crime tendencies do (people are actually more likely to vote in their 60s than in their 20s), we'd expect the impact of a theoretical lead-induced conservatism to be more muted than the impact of lead-induced violence. Those whose brains were damaged by excess lead exposure will still be around and voting in large numbers for decades to come, and so if their brain damage is part of what's driving their conservatism, it's going to keep having an impact on elections well into the future -- worsened by the natural brain atrophy of the aging process. But, if the theory is right, then the larger the portion of the electorate gets that didn't have their brains corrupted by lead, the more conservatism will fade.

I'm not sure I'm convinced by this theory even with regard to violent crime rates, much less political leanings. But it sure is intriguing. It would be great if a little environmental regulation were all that was needed to make people less likely to do evil things like committing murder or voting Republican.
 
That's why Republicans are opposed to environmental regulation Arkady. Hell, they'd bring back lead in a heartbeat if they thought it would win them elections.

Think about it this way, the average Fox News viewer is 65 years old. Lead started the mental decline, and Fox finishes it up in fine style!

Thankfully most 65 year olds will be dead within 15 years.
 
That's why Republicans are opposed to environmental regulation Arkady. Hell, they'd bring back lead in a heartbeat if they thought it would win them elections.

Think about it this way, the average Fox News viewer is 65 years old. Lead started the mental decline, and Fox finishes it up in fine style!

Thankfully most 65 year olds will be dead within 15 years.

Hehe.

There should be ways to check this theory, by measuring the political leanings of the young before and after the lead era, both here and around the world. Presumably, there's a tendency for the young to be more liberal than the society as a whole without regard to lead, but if that tendency was dampened in the lead-contamination period, that would be very suggestive. And it would be cause to be hopeful. Sometimes I worry that mankind is running up against the limits of mental capacity in the common man (tune into Fox News for a while to see what I mean), and so we won't be able to rise much higher. But if that mental capacity was artificially reduced by pollution, we may be able to do a lot better once that works its way out of the population through natural mortality.
 
yep. I find the lead thing compelling as well, and look forward to more study on the matter.

I've long argued (for over a decade now) that the real damage cons suffer from that best explains their collective and individual selves, is the self-inflicted damage we still see in play today -- being on the wrong side of history about many/most things big and small, most of which having had a negative impact on the human condition in this country -- and beyond.

In short, it's their moral decay/vacuousness as represented by their past and present failures that best explains their collective apathy and ignorance seen in the dominance of the "rugged individualist" philosophy and flat earther nature and character of it, as well as the anti-science, etc, BS that makes so many of them flat earthers in the sense it is commonly applied. It's all about hiding from their collective and therefore individual selves (as members of the cult) and what they've been in the not so distant past and present. That's why they're so reliant upon denial, projection, deflection, scapagoating, both ways BS -- all the tools required to to shift the blame to those "others" they can't survive without these days.

They are much like the German people were before they were walked through the death camps, which is why their tactics so closely resemble those seen outta the brownshirts, minus the clubs.

None of this of course eliminates the possibility of the lead role in explaining the easy embrace and clinging to the many irrational fears -- irrationaily generally -- that the modern US rightwingnut displays proudly.

have a good one -- gotta scoot
 
I'm all for environmental regs. I say, we should go to the UN and demand that every country clean up their air and water to the point it is in the US. Now that is a regulation I could stand behind.
 
Look at their FIRST instinct on any talk of even modest gun control laws?


Claims they're going to start an "armed insurrection". For all their finger-pointing at anarchists throwing rocks through coffee shop windows....the heavy burden of actual threats of violence and war...come from the Right.
 
Some say that Plumbum is what eventually brought down the Roman Empire. I lean more toward Christianity being the culprit, although the two phenomena may be more closely related than one would suspect. ;)
 
Some say that Plumbum is what eventually brought down the Roman Empire. I lean more toward Christianity being the culprit, although the two phenomena may be more closely related than one would suspect. ;)

The Romans were certainly the most intellectually LAZY people to ever strut across the stage of world history. Maybe lead poisoning had something to do with that. Consider that they had an empire that stretched from the fens of Scotland to the marshes of Mesopotamia, yet we have no evidence that ANYONE in the Roman Empire ever asked the simple question: What's on the other side of this ocean?

QUICK: Name one great Roman explorer!
 
The Romans were certainly the most intellectually LAZY people to ever strut across the stage of world history. Maybe lead poisoning had something to do with that. Consider that they had an empire that stretched from the fens of Scotland to the marshes of Mesopotamia, yet we have no evidence that ANYONE in the Roman Empire ever asked the simple question: What's on the other side of this ocean?

QUICK: Name one great Roman explorer!


Sheesh LeRoy,

When you have Pax Romana, what more could you possibly desire?
 
I'm all for environmental regs. I say, we should go to the UN and demand that every country clean up their air and water to the point it is in the US. Now that is a regulation I could stand behind.

Depending on how you measure it, you could argue that the US is the wort polluter int he world. Take CO2 pollution, since the majority of scientists believe that's the main cause of global warming, and thus something that's pushing us towards ecological catastrophe:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions_per_capita

Per capita, none of the big nations pollutes the air more than us. Our per capita emissions are more than three times as high as China's. That said, in terms of gross CO2 emissions, China now exceeds us substantially, due to their huge population:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions

If every nation polluted the atmosphere with CO2 as badly as the US does, in per capita terms, the world would be pumping 122 billion metric tons of CO2 into the atmosphere per year -- more than four times as much as currently.
 
Some say that Plumbum is what eventually brought down the Roman Empire. I lean more toward Christianity being the culprit, although the two phenomena may be more closely related than one would suspect. ;)

Funny, I'd had exactly the same thoughts!
 
May I ask why?

Certainly. As I mentioned, one of the distinguishing features of Roman culture was intellectual laziness. They had access to all the extraordinary discoveries that the ancient Greek mathematicians had made, and had almost precisely ZERO interest in it. They were not explorers; the Carthaginians were. We have records of Carthaginian voyages of exploration down the west coast of Africa, for instance. As for Mithridates, he was an exceedingly interesting person. He was highly cultured, and had an intense interest in matters of philosophy and science. I think the future course of civilization in the western part of the Old World would have proceeded in a better way, if either the Carthaginians or Mithridates had defeated Rome, and strangled the Roman Empire in its crib.

Purely speculation, of course----one of those intriguing 'What If' questions about history----but that is my belief.
 
I would think, in terms of Carthage, that things would have been significantly different.

Think of it:
1: No Christianity.
2: Our language would be based on the Punic rather than the Latin language.
3: Architecture would be remarkably different.

I seriously doubt we would recognize the world today as we know it.

As you say...pure speculation.
 
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