CBO says

[Boca]

another recession in 2013 if government spending isn't contained.

Deficits were reduced each and every year of Bush's second term. So, what I'd like to know is how many here are comfortable with four straight years of no federal budgets and trillon dollar plus deficits? More has been added to the national debt in four years than what was accumulated since George Washington. Just seems a bit more important than what this Aiken fellow said.

Food stampers, disability crooks, and couch potatos needn't respond cuz I know where you stand.

Bottomline to all this is conservatives sign their checks on the front and liberals sign their's on the back.

 

[KnotaFrayed]

another recession in 2013 if government spending isn't contained.

Deficits were reduced each and every year of Bush's second term. So, what I'd like to know is how many here are comfortable with four straight years of no federal budgets and trillon dollar plus deficits? More has been added to the national debt in four years than what was accumulated since George Washington. Just seems a bit more important than what this Aiken fellow said.

Food stampers, disability crooks, and couch potatos needn't respond cuz I know where you stand.

Bottomline to all this is conservatives sign their checks on the front and liberals sign their's on the back.

What, no spending occurred in the previous 8 years???? We've had tax cuts for how long? You're whining about what?

From the year 2003, written by a Republican.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/08/magazine/08WWLN.html?pagewanted=all

From the year 2006 written by Democrats
http://www.jec.senate.gov/archive/Documents/Reports/debtandtaxes2006.pdf

http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...h-vs-obama/2012/01/31/gIQAQ0kFgQ_graphic.html

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickung...isenhower-would-you-believe-its-barack-obama/

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/40388_That_Obama_Spending_Binge_Another_Right_Wing_Myth

If you think people are that deaf, dumb and blind as you fantasize about or living in your same fantasy bubble, you're in for a big surprise when that bubble pops.

 

[Saladin2]

Bush wasted Billions on the Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan...Allowed the economy to crash....rang up Billions in Medicare Part D......Don't you remember?...It was in all the papers

 

[Spamature]

another recession in 2013 if government spending isn't contained.

Deficits were reduced each and every year of Bush's second term. So, what I'd like to know is how many here are comfortable with four straight years of no federal budgets and trillon dollar plus deficits? More has been added to the national debt in four years than what was accumulated since George Washington. Just seems a bit more important than what this Aiken fellow said.

Food stampers, disability crooks, and couch potatos needn't respond cuz I know where you stand.

Bottomline to all this is conservatives sign their checks on the front and liberals sign their's on the back.

Excuse me !

His last deficit was over a trillion dollars.

How is that a reduction.

 

[Boca]

Bless your poor little uninformed pablum fed soul.

There was no FY 2009 budget!!!!!!

Bush submitted one in early 2008, but Reid and Pelosi refused to act on it as required for the budget year FY2009 which began October 1, 2008.

Why??? because they were betting their boy, your boy, would be elected in November. He was. And as president-elect and United States Senator, he crafted the 2009 spending plans, voted on them in the Senate and signed them into law as president 2 weeks after taking office!!!!

Every f'king dime was his doing....get yer head out of yer ass!!!

 

[Spamature]

Bless your poor little uninformed pablum fed soul.

There was no FY 2009 budget!!!!!!

Bush submitted one in early 2008, but Reid and Pelosi refused to act on it as required for the budget year FY2009 which began October 1, 2008.

Why??? because they were betting their boy, your boy, would be elected in November. He was. And as president-elect and United States Senator, he crafted the 2009 spending plans, voted on them in the Senate and signed them into law as president 2 weeks after taking office!!!!

Every f'king dime was his doing....get yer head out of yer ass!!!

Well ain't that cute of you. You pretend that there wasn't a trillion dollar deficit under bush and it wasn't his. Sorry but the deficit was there before bush left out of town in Jan 09. You can whistle past that grave yard if it makes you feel better. But it don't change a thing.

 

[NCmusicman]

Obama's "Fundamental Transformation" REQUIRES OUR FINANCIAL SYSTEMS BE DESTROYED!!!! He is working his plan.

another recession in 2013 if government spending isn't contained.

Deficits were reduced each and every year of Bush's second term. So, what I'd like to know is how many here are comfortable with four straight years of no federal budgets and trillon dollar plus deficits? More has been added to the national debt in four years than what was accumulated since George Washington. Just seems a bit more important than what this Aiken fellow said.

Food stampers, disability crooks, and couch potatos needn't respond cuz I know where you stand.

Bottomline to all this is conservatives sign their checks on the front and liberals sign their's on the back.

 

[KnotaFrayed]

Bless your poor little uninformed pablum fed soul.

There was no FY 2009 budget!!!!!!

Bush submitted one in early 2008, but Reid and Pelosi refused to act on it as required for the budget year FY2009 which began October 1, 2008.

Why??? because they were betting their boy, your boy, would be elected in November. He was. And as president-elect and United States Senator, he crafted the 2009 spending plans, voted on them in the Senate and signed them into law as president 2 weeks after taking office!!!!

Every f'king dime was his doing....get yer head out of yer ass!!!

HUH???? Do you realize what spending was put in place before Obama took office?


"This fact is illustrated by looking at CBO’s last spending projection of the Bush administration, which was issued on January 8, 2009 – 2 weeks before Obama took office and containing no Obama initiatives. It shows that spending was projected to rise to 24.9 percent of GDP in 2009 under laws that Obama inherited – almost exactly what it ended up being."
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Colum...pender-Obama-or-Bush.aspx#0usqyAIsTj8rPJjp.99

Gee, could that be the same CBO you're referring to for your figures???

 

[Boca]

Yeah boy dumbass...because the Obama crafted omnibus spending Bill passed the Senate and was scored by CBO two weeks before he took office and IT WAS ALMOST EXACTLY WHAT IT ENDED UP BEING!

 

[NightSwimmer]

Deficits were reduced each and every year of Bush's second term.

I know that you've been fed this line by someone and that you probably don't even understand how patently ridiculous it is. Deficits soared under the Bush administration and peaked in 2004, then they tapered off ever so slightly for the next three years, remaining almost flat. Then the deficit exploded in 2008.

We didn't have a good economy under the Bush administration, in spite of all of the tax cuts and deregulation. We've tried that scheme a few times now. It never works. Never.

 

[Mytzlplk]

too funny, and the starting point is also ignored.

and of course, we all (well, lying rightwingnuts excluded) know the whys behind the current and future deficits.

 

[marvin martian]

So, the lefties here don't blame Obama for ANY of the problems of the last 4 years. Do I have that right?

 

[OldGaffer]

Yes, you have it right. We blame Wingers for the 2008 Recession, and we blame McConnel for filibustering every attempt to fix it. And we blame Winger trickle down your leg economic policies for the huge deficit and the death of the middle class.

 

[KnotaFrayed]

Yeah boy dumbass...because the Obama crafted omnibus spending Bill passed the Senate and was scored by CBO two weeks before he took office and IT WAS ALMOST EXACTLY WHAT IT ENDED UP BEING!

What don't you understand about "under laws Obama inherited"????

 

[NightSwimmer]

So, the lefties here don't blame Obama for ANY of the problems of the last 4 years. Do I have that right?

The last four years have featured solutions to our problems. These solutions haven't all been as effective as they could have been, but progress is progress. Unemployment is still a problem, but it is less of a problem than it was four years ago.

I can't really think of any problem that we are currently dealing with on a federal basis that had it's genesis under the Obama administration. Can you?

 

[OldGaffer]

What don't you understand about "under laws Obama inherited"????

He is a Birther, enough said?

 

[KnotaFrayed]

So, the lefties here don't blame Obama for ANY of the problems of the last 4 years. Do I have that right?

If you're talking about a "TOP PRIORITY" to ensure Obama is not elected to another term and considering where the nation would have been were all the "free market" (and their Washington Lobbyists) would be were it not for some government intervention, what specific problems of the last four years have their been relative to the size of the problem that hit the nation in September of 2008 (not yet 4 years ago) but almost 2 months before Obama was even elected president, much less put in office.

No, the recovery hasn't been stellar for some, especially on the jobs front, but when corporations are seeing record profits, but not growing the economy and creating jobs as their wealthy heads promised to do if granted tax cuts, how is the government to blame for NOT creating jobs and for those who claim it's not the government's responsibility to create jobs, even termporary ones to get the economy rolling again, how do they blame Obama for NOT creating jobs when they refuse to pass any legislation that would allow the government to do so???

The problem with attacking government for NOT making the economy better at the same time one is also attacking the government for overspending is the two attacks contradict one another, but then thinking things through does not seem to be the strength of some.

 

[KnotaFrayed]

The last four years have featured solutions to our problems. These solutions haven't all been as effective as they could have been, but progress is progress. Unemployment is still a problem, but it is less of a problem than it was four years ago.

I can't really think of any problem that we are currently dealing with on a federal basis that had it's genesis under the Obama administration. Can you?

I don't believe these people would suggest they're dealing with a lot of problems under the Obama adminstration, but if Mitt somehow (without the use of "evil" government) comes in and "creates" jobs here in America, instead of in some other nation, (growing their economy instead of ours) corporations might have to pay profits more for their labor. http://articles.marketwatch.com/2012-07-09/commentary/32589934_1_private-sector-corporations-


BUTTT all is not LOST!!! People who have jobs, tend to buy more things than people without jobs and people with jobs pay taxes. If that happens, the whining about those who pay taxes and those who don't will be rendered silent, the whining about American workers making too much or digging into profits too much will run into problems and.....well, if Mitt and Ryan are somehow able to "create" jobs from their positions within the government, WITHOUT government we all might wonder why they needed to be in government to create jobs instead of creating them without goverment and what they have been waiting for other than keeping carrying out their "TOP Priority" first in their attempt to get the keys back to the White House.

Yes, slicing and dicing government and working to keep positive things from happening in the economy so the opposition does not get credit for them, as a means fo gaining government's top seat does sound a bit bizarre, but con artistry requires the knack of picking people's pocket or stepping on their face in such a way they bizarrely, thank you for all the help you've given them.

 

[NightSwimmer]

The problem with attacking government for NOT making the economy better at the same time one is also attacking the government for overspending is the two attacks contradict one another, but then thinking things through does not seem to be the strength of some.

Those who fail to think things through comprise the single greatest strength of the modern Republican Party. Without them, the party's policy agenda would never attract more than 10 or 20 percent of the electorate.