Check out this quote from American Philosopher Richard Rorty

[PNWest]

"... Members of labor unions and unorganized unskilled workers will sooner or later realize that their government is not even trying to prevent wages from sinking or to prevent jobs from being exported. Around the same time, they will realize that suburban white-collar workers—themselves desperately afraid of being downsized—are not going to let themselves be taxed to provide social benefits for anyone else.

At that point, something will crack. The nonsuburban electorate will decide that the system has failed and start looking around for a strongman to vote for—someone willing to assure them that, once he is elected, the smug bureaucrats, tricky lawyers, overpaid bond salesmen, and postmodernist professors will no longer be calling the shots….

One thing that is very likely to happen is that the gains made in the past forty years by black and brown Americans, and by homosexuals, will be wiped out. Jocular contempt for women will come back into fashion…. All the resentment which badly educated Americans feel about having their manners dictated to them by college graduates will find an outlet."

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Think that he wrote this last in the last couple of years? Nope - 1998, long before Trump

Achieving Our Country: Leftist Thought in Twentieth-Century America (Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press, 1998), 89–90.

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I'd suggest Rorty's book to you guys but I doubt that many of you lefties have the brainpower and attention span to actually read or at least peruse the book. I admit that I've just skimmed it and doubt that I'll slog through the whole thing.


As for you righties.... the book doesn't have any pictures and doesn't come with any crayons so you wouldn't be interested either.


Regardless - Rorty did a heck of a job in predicting what would be happening 25 years from when he wrote those words and as the greatest poster here I thought I would make you aware of it.

 

[BlueNY22]

"... Members of labor unions and unorganized unskilled workers will sooner or later realize that their government is not even trying to prevent wages from sinking or to prevent jobs from being exported. Around the same time, they will realize that suburban white-collar workers—themselves desperately afraid of being downsized—are not going to let themselves be taxed to provide social benefits for anyone else.

At that point, something will crack. The nonsuburban electorate will decide that the system has failed and start looking around for a strongman to vote for—someone willing to assure them that, once he is elected, the smug bureaucrats, tricky lawyers, overpaid bond salesmen, and postmodernist professors will no longer be calling the shots….

One thing that is very likely to happen is that the gains made in the past forty years by black and brown Americans, and by homosexuals, will be wiped out. Jocular contempt for women will come back into fashion…. All the resentment which badly educated Americans feel about having their manners dictated to them by college graduates will find an outlet."

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Think that he wrote this last in the last couple of years? Nope - 1998, long before Trump

Achieving Our Country: Leftist Thought in Twentieth-Century America (Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press, 1998), 89–90.

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I'd suggest Rorty's book to you guys but I doubt that many of you lefties have the brainpower and attention span to actually read or at least peruse the book. I admit that I've just skimmed it and doubt that I'll slog through the whole thing.


As for you righties.... the book doesn't have any pictures and doesn't come with any crayons so you wouldn't be interested either.


Regardless - Rorty did a heck of a job in predicting what would be happening 25 years from when he wrote those words and as the greatest poster here I thought I would make you aware of it.

What does or did he consider a 'gain' ?

No gains when you have these 'college educated' idiots dictating.

 

[as seen on tv]

"... Members of labor unions and unorganized unskilled workers will sooner or later realize that their government is not even trying to prevent wages from sinking or to prevent jobs from being exported. Around the same time, they will realize that suburban white-collar workers—themselves desperately afraid of being downsized—are not going to let themselves be taxed to provide social benefits for anyone else.

At that point, something will crack. The nonsuburban electorate will decide that the system has failed and start looking around for a strongman to vote for—someone willing to assure them that, once he is elected, the smug bureaucrats, tricky lawyers, overpaid bond salesmen, and postmodernist professors will no longer be calling the shots….

One thing that is very likely to happen is that the gains made in the past forty years by black and brown Americans, and by homosexuals, will be wiped out. Jocular contempt for women will come back into fashion…. All the resentment which badly educated Americans feel about having their manners dictated to them by college graduates will find an outlet."

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Think that he wrote this last in the last couple of years? Nope - 1998, long before Trump

Achieving Our Country: Leftist Thought in Twentieth-Century America (Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press, 1998), 89–90.

-------------

I'd suggest Rorty's book to you guys but I doubt that many of you lefties have the brainpower and attention span to actually read or at least peruse the book. I admit that I've just skimmed it and doubt that I'll slog through the whole thing.


As for you righties.... the book doesn't have any pictures and doesn't come with any crayons so you wouldn't be interested either.


Regardless - Rorty did a heck of a job in predicting what would be happening 25 years from when he wrote those words and as the greatest poster here I thought I would make you aware of it.

I'd never heard of this guy, so i googled him. From Wikipedia . . .

"Rorty rejected the long-held idea that correct internal representations of objects in the outside world are a necessary prerequisite for knowledge. Rorty argued instead that knowledge is an internal and linguistic affair; knowledge relates only to our own language.[2][3] Rorty argues that language is made up of vocabularies that are temporary and historical,[4] and concludes that "since vocabularies are made by human beings, so are truths".[5] The acceptance of the preceding arguments leads to what Rorty calls "ironism"; a state of mind where people are completely aware that their knowledge is dependent on their time and place in history, and are therefore somewhat detached from their own beliefs . . ."

I would agree with Rorty's view that people are detached from reality because they use vocabularies even THEY don't understand . . .

 

[EatTheRich]

What does or did he consider a 'gain' ?

No gains when you have these 'college educated' idiots dictating.

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I mean, a gain would be that the people pictured were not murdered, and that people are selected for their skills and not based on skin color, gender presentation, or private sexual practices.

 

[reason10]

"... Members of labor unions and unorganized unskilled workers will sooner or later realize that their government is not even trying to prevent wages from sinking or to prevent jobs from being exported. Around the same time, they will realize that suburban white-collar workers—themselves desperately afraid of being downsized—are not going to let themselves be taxed to provide social benefits for anyone else.

At that point, something will crack. The nonsuburban electorate will decide that the system has failed and start looking around for a strongman to vote for—someone willing to assure them that, once he is elected, the smug bureaucrats, tricky lawyers, overpaid bond salesmen, and postmodernist professors will no longer be calling the shots….

One thing that is very likely to happen is that the gains made in the past forty years by black and brown Americans, and by homosexuals, will be wiped out. Jocular contempt for women will come back into fashion…. All the resentment which badly educated Americans feel about having their manners dictated to them by college graduates will find an outlet."

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Think that he wrote this last in the last couple of years? Nope - 1998, long before Trump

Achieving Our Country: Leftist Thought in Twentieth-Century America (Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press, 1998), 89–90.

-------------

I'd suggest Rorty's book to you guys but I doubt that many of you lefties have the brainpower and attention span to actually read or at least peruse the book. I admit that I've just skimmed it and doubt that I'll slog through the whole thing.


As for you righties.... the book doesn't have any pictures and doesn't come with any crayons so you wouldn't be interested either.


Regardless - Rorty did a heck of a job in predicting what would be happening 25 years from when he wrote those words and as the greatest poster here I thought I would make you aware of it.

The drivel you just cited is about as far left wing as it gets. Mainstream conservatives here consider that racist crap a big yawn. You far left wingers have been pushing that bullshit since the Reagan years.

What has the Negro race gained in the past 40 years? The Democrats destroyed their family unit with the welfare state, and most of them live in dangerous inner city ghettos. You somehow think that's a gain? The last time the Negro race gained anything was when the Republican Party won the Civil War and passed the Emancipation Proclamation, which took them away from being bought and sold as farm equipment.

Black and brown? A lot of people non Negro are brown. Guess you've never heard of India, or Vietnam, where they get REALLY brown. People come to Florida and risk skin cancer just to brown their skin.

Homosexuals born in America automatically made gains. In Muslim countries, Sharia law calls for their execution, usually by getting thrown off tall buildings. Anyway, there was never any institutional bias against homos, in all of American history. Our Christian Bible calls for their execution, but the Founding Fathers ruled America could not be a religious state. Kinda worked out for the limp wristers.

What the election of President Trump did was (a) save the economy from the DISASTROUS policies of Joe and the Democrats. Our economy today is better than ever before. Oh, and there is WORLD PEACE today. The President has already EARNED several Nobel Peace prizes, but that far left group of [Unwelcome language removed] already made that prize not worth the paper it's printed on when they awarded it to terrorist Yassir Arafat and Pres. Obama.

 

[middleview]

What does or did he consider a 'gain' ?

No gains when you have these 'college educated' idiots dictating.

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I have no idea who most of those people are or how they vote. I recognize teh surgeon general and the WH spokeswoman and Hunter Biden...who are the rest of these people?

Is this what you call decency?

 

[BlueNY22]

The drivel you just cited is about as far left wing as it gets. Mainstream conservatives here consider that racist crap a big yawn. You far left wingers have been pushing that bullshit since the Reagan years.

What has the Negro race gained in the past 40 years? The Democrats destroyed their family unit with the welfare state, and most of them live in dangerous inner city ghettos. You somehow think that's a gain? The last time the Negro race gained anything was when the Republican Party won the Civil War and passed the Emancipation Proclamation, which took them away from being bought and sold as farm equipment.

Black and brown? A lot of people non Negro are brown. Guess you've never heard of India, or Vietnam, where they get REALLY brown. People come to Florida and risk skin cancer just to brown their skin.

Homosexuals born in America automatically made gains. In Muslim countries, Sharia law calls for their execution, usually by getting thrown off tall buildings. Anyway, there was never any institutional bias against homos, in all of American history. Our Christian Bible calls for their execution, but the Founding Fathers ruled America could not be a religious state. Kinda worked out for the limp wristers.

What the election of President Trump did was (a) save the economy from the DISASTROUS policies of Joe and the Democrats. Our economy today is better than ever before. Oh, and there is WORLD PEACE today. The President has already EARNED several Nobel Peace prizes, but that far left group of [Unwelcome language removed] already made that prize not worth the paper it's printed on when they awarded it to terrorist Yassir Arafat and Pres. Obama.

Just Google this Rorty fellow. He's a common leftist pseudo intellectual.


Remember when Saddam Fled Kuwait ? What did he do? he left but he left a mess behind setting fires to every oil well he could find.

That's what leftism has done in the Biden / Obama era.

And when shown the facts of their disasters they inspired (Obamacare, The Border, Gov't backed student loans, Ignoring Drug runners, and the Somali crimes) They shrug their shoulders.

As someone said: Just because the topic of truth confuses you, or leads many philosophers in endless circles, does not mean that you can safely ignore it, as Rorty would have us believe

 

[Dawg]

Rorty evidently didn't realize labor Unions were going to price their members out of jobs and leave cities in the dark from job loses. GM just shuttered a $100Million+ plant after a six week Union strike that gained great benefits and future $42 @ hour pay. That didn't work out so well for Union members or the city and this isn't the 1st or the last to shutter.

I've always wondered how long before paying folks double+ what majority of buyers make would last, looks like now I'm getting the answer. Hellfire, one auto company have 330,000 units setting on dealers lots that no one wants to buy, of course, Webster's defines DODGE as to avoid, stay away from.

Is Dick still alive?

 

[Dawg]

I have no idea who most of those people are or how they vote. I recognize teh surgeon general and the WH spokeswoman and Hunter Biden...who are the rest of these people?

Is this what you call decency?

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Where's your picture of Bill and Jeffy?

 

[BackAlive]

The drivel you just cited is about as far left wing as it gets. Mainstream conservatives here consider that racist crap a big yawn. You far left wingers have been pushing that bullshit since the Reagan years.

What has the Negro race gained in the past 40 years? The Democrats destroyed their family unit with the welfare state, and most of them live in dangerous inner city ghettos. You somehow think that's a gain? The last time the Negro race gained anything was when the Republican Party won the Civil War and passed the Emancipation Proclamation, which took them away from being bought and sold as farm equipment.

Black and brown? A lot of people non Negro are brown. Guess you've never heard of India, or Vietnam, where they get REALLY brown. People come to Florida and risk skin cancer just to brown their skin.

Homosexuals born in America automatically made gains. In Muslim countries, Sharia law calls for their execution, usually by getting thrown off tall buildings. Anyway, there was never any institutional bias against homos, in all of American history. Our Christian Bible calls for their execution, but the Founding Fathers ruled America could not be a religious state. Kinda worked out for the limp wristers.

What the election of President Trump did was (a) save the economy from the DISASTROUS policies of Joe and the Democrats. Our economy today is better than ever before. Oh, and there is WORLD PEACE today. The President has already EARNED several Nobel Peace prizes, but that far left group of [Unwelcome language removed] already made that prize not worth the paper it's printed on when they awarded it to terrorist Yassir Arafat and Pres. Obama.

The economy is great !!!...Sure it is

 

[middleview]

The drivel you just cited is about as far left wing as it gets. Mainstream conservatives here consider that racist crap a big yawn. You far left wingers have been pushing that bullshit since the Reagan years.

What has the Negro race gained in the past 40 years? The Democrats destroyed their family unit with the welfare state, and most of them live in dangerous inner city ghettos. You somehow think that's a gain? The last time the Negro race gained anything was when the Republican Party won the Civil War and passed the Emancipation Proclamation, which took them away from being bought and sold as farm equipment.

Black and brown? A lot of people non Negro are brown. Guess you've never heard of India, or Vietnam, where they get REALLY brown. People come to Florida and risk skin cancer just to brown their skin.

Homosexuals born in America automatically made gains. In Muslim countries, Sharia law calls for their execution, usually by getting thrown off tall buildings. Anyway, there was never any institutional bias against homos, in all of American history. Our Christian Bible calls for their execution, but the Founding Fathers ruled America could not be a religious state. Kinda worked out for the limp wristers.

What the election of President Trump did was (a) save the economy from the DISASTROUS policies of Joe and the Democrats. Our economy today is better than ever before. Oh, and there is WORLD PEACE today. The President has already EARNED several Nobel Peace prizes, but that far left group of [Unwelcome language removed] already made that prize not worth the paper it's printed on when they awarded it to terrorist Yassir Arafat and Pres. Obama.

Your version of history is amazing....
1. In 1964 the democrats passed the Civil Rights act. I guess you forgot.
2. What does Sharia have to do with anything?
3. What has Trump done to "save the economy"? What "disastrous" policy are you thinking Trump did away with? Unemployment is up. Inflation is up. Trump's tariffs are killing small businesses....and even though he said other countries would pay the tariff...he lied.
4. "World Peace"? Never mind that Putin continues to bomb the crap out of Ukraine and Trump withholds weapons that would save Ukrainian lives....because Putin told him to.
5. After bombing Iran and Venezuela....still think he deserves a Nobel? I do not. He twisted arms to push FIFA into creating a peace prize for him. He renamed the US Institute for Peace to the Trump Institute for Peace and fired everyone....

You repeat the Trump talking points without even a heartbeat to think about it.

 

[EatTheRich]

The drivel you just cited is about as far left wing as it gets. Mainstream conservatives here consider that racist crap a big yawn. You far left wingers have been pushing that bullshit since the Reagan years.

What has the Negro race gained in the past 40 years? The Democrats destroyed their family unit with the welfare state, and most of them live in dangerous inner city ghettos. You somehow think that's a gain? The last time the Negro race gained anything was when the Republican Party won the Civil War and passed the Emancipation Proclamation, which took them away from being bought and sold as farm equipment.

Black and brown? A lot of people non Negro are brown. Guess you've never heard of India, or Vietnam, where they get REALLY brown. People come to Florida and risk skin cancer just to brown their skin.

Homosexuals born in America automatically made gains. In Muslim countries, Sharia law calls for their execution, usually by getting thrown off tall buildings. Anyway, there was never any institutional bias against homos, in all of American history. Our Christian Bible calls for their execution, but the Founding Fathers ruled America could not be a religious state. Kinda worked out for the limp wristers.

What the election of President Trump did was (a) save the economy from the DISASTROUS policies of Joe and the Democrats. Our economy today is better than ever before. Oh, and there is WORLD PEACE today. The President has already EARNED several Nobel Peace prizes, but that far left group of [Unwelcome language removed] already made that prize not worth the paper it's printed on when they awarded it to terrorist Yassir Arafat and Pres. Obama.

1. That was written decades ago.
2. It is not the welfare state so much as the restrictions on welfare, and even more the progress of capitalism, wiping out Black families, The welfare state, such as remains, helps protect people from the worst-case scenarios in terms of consequences.
3. Gays gained notheing automatically. They had to fight for every inch of political ground conceded by the state, just as all oppressed people in history have been obliged to do.

 

[EatTheRich]

The drivel you just cited is about as far left wing as it gets. Mainstream conservatives here consider that racist crap a big yawn. You far left wingers have been pushing that bullshit since the Reagan years.

What has the Negro race gained in the past 40 years? The Democrats destroyed their family unit with the welfare state, and most of them live in dangerous inner city ghettos. You somehow think that's a gain? The last time the Negro race gained anything was when the Republican Party won the Civil War and passed the Emancipation Proclamation, which took them away from being bought and sold as farm equipment.

Black and brown? A lot of people non Negro are brown. Guess you've never heard of India, or Vietnam, where they get REALLY brown. People come to Florida and risk skin cancer just to brown their skin.

Homosexuals born in America automatically made gains. In Muslim countries, Sharia law calls for their execution, usually by getting thrown off tall buildings. Anyway, there was never any institutional bias against homos, in all of American history. Our Christian Bible calls for their execution, but the Founding Fathers ruled America could not be a religious state. Kinda worked out for the limp wristers.

What the election of President Trump did was (a) save the economy from the DISASTROUS policies of Joe and the Democrats. Our economy today is better than ever before. Oh, and there is WORLD PEACE today. The President has already EARNED several Nobel Peace prizes, but that far left group of [Unwelcome language removed] already made that prize not worth the paper it's printed on when they awarded it to terrorist Yassir Arafat and Pres. Obama.

1. That was written decades ago.
2. It is not the welfare state so much as the restrictions on welfare, and even more the progress of capitalism, wiping out Black families, The welfare state, such as remains, helps protect people from the worst-case scenarios in terms of consequences.
3. Gays gained notheing automatically. They had to fight for every inch of political ground conceded by the state, just as all oppressed people in history have been obliged to do.

Just Google this Rorty fellow. He's a common leftist pseudo intellectual.


Remember when Saddam Fled Kuwait ? What did he do? he left but he left a mess behind setting fires to every oil well he could find.

That's what leftism has done in the Biden / Obama era.

And when shown the facts of their disasters they inspired (Obamacare, The Border, Gov't backed student loans, Ignoring Drug runners, and the Somali crimes) They shrug their shoulders.

As someone said: Just because the topic of truth confuses you, or leads many philosophers in endless circles, does not mean that you can safely ignore it, as Rorty would have us believe

Sounds more like centrism when you talk about “disasters” … and there is not one that the right has not made the situation worse.

 

[EatTheRich]

Rorty evidently didn't realize labor Unions were going to price their members out of jobs and leave cities in the dark from job loses. GM just shuttered a $100Million+ plant after a six week Union strike that gained great benefits and future $42 @ hour pay. That didn't work out so well for Union members or the city and this isn't the 1st or the last to shutter.

I've always wondered how long before paying folks double+ what majority of buyers make would last, looks like now I'm getting the answer. Hellfire, one auto company have 330,000 units setting on dealers lots that no one wants to buy, of course, Webster's defines DODGE as to avoid, stay away from.

Is Dick still alive?

Sounds like the unions need to do more organizing (in the South for example) so the manufacturers can’t open elsewhere without paying union wages either.

 

[Dawg]

Your version of history is amazing....
1. In 1964 the democrats passed the Civil Rights act. I guess you forgot.
2. What does Sharia have to do with anything?
3. What has Trump done to "save the economy"? What "disastrous" policy are you thinking Trump did away with? Unemployment is up. Inflation is up. Trump's tariffs are killing small businesses....and even though he said other countries would pay the tariff...he lied.
4. "World Peace"? Never mind that Putin continues to bomb the crap out of Ukraine and Trump withholds weapons that would save Ukrainian lives....because Putin told him to.
5. After bombing Iran and Venezuela....still think he deserves a Nobel? I do not. He twisted arms to push FIFA into creating a peace prize for him. He renamed the US Institute for Peace to the Trump Institute for Peace and fired everyone....

You repeat the Trump talking points without even a heartbeat to think about it.

1964, apparently you forgot or just lying after converting to a leftist

Fact Check:1964 Civil Rights Act Was Bipartisan And More Democrats Voted Against It Than Republicans

Fact Check:1964 Civil Rights Act Was Bipartisan And More Democrats Voted Against It Than Republicans

moguldom.com

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

"... Members of labor unions and unorganized unskilled workers will sooner or later realize that their government is not even trying to prevent wages from sinking or to prevent jobs from being exported. Around the same time, they will realize that suburban white-collar workers—themselves desperately afraid of being downsized—are not going to let themselves be taxed to provide social benefits for anyone else.

At that point, something will crack. The nonsuburban electorate will decide that the system has failed and start looking around for a strongman to vote for—someone willing to assure them that, once he is elected, the smug bureaucrats, tricky lawyers, overpaid bond salesmen, and postmodernist professors will no longer be calling the shots….

One thing that is very likely to happen is that the gains made in the past forty years by black and brown Americans, and by homosexuals, will be wiped out. Jocular contempt for women will come back into fashion…. All the resentment which badly educated Americans feel about having their manners dictated to them by college graduates will find an outlet."

-------------

Think that he wrote this last in the last couple of years? Nope - 1998, long before Trump

Achieving Our Country: Leftist Thought in Twentieth-Century America (Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press, 1998), 89–90.

-------------

I'd suggest Rorty's book to you guys but I doubt that many of you lefties have the brainpower and attention span to actually read or at least peruse the book. I admit that I've just skimmed it and doubt that I'll slog through the whole thing.


As for you righties.... the book doesn't have any pictures and doesn't come with any crayons so you wouldn't be interested either.


Regardless - Rorty did a heck of a job in predicting what would be happening 25 years from when he wrote those words and as the greatest poster here I thought I would make you aware of it.

After Bill Came the Bull

Rorty is a rare Pragmatist, a devotee of the last great philosopher, an American named William James.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Rorty evidently didn't realize labor Unions were going to price their members out of jobs and leave cities in the dark from job loses. GM just shuttered a $100Million+ plant after a six week Union strike that gained great benefits and future $42 @ hour pay. That didn't work out so well for Union members or the city and this isn't the 1st or the last to shutter.

I've always wondered how long before paying folks double+ what majority of buyers make would last, looks like now I'm getting the answer. Hellfire, one auto company have 330,000 units setting on dealers lots that no one wants to buy, of course, Webster's defines DODGE as to avoid, stay away from.

Is Dick still alive?

If You're Not a Union Man, You're Not a Man at All. You Are a Manservant

Investors and management are the overpaid parasites, not those out in the workplace producing things.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Sounds like the unions need to do more organizing (in the South for example) so the manufacturers can’t open elsewhere without paying union wages either.

Yellow Rednecks


When the most successful union in history, the baseball players' union, was first proposed, it was the Southern players who unanimously rejected it.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

He's not that bright. After all, he doesn't have a clue what created the conditions he is railing against:

The Great War Was the Great Error

There was no good reason for the Great War. The world had stumbled into war based on false narratives and the institutional imperatives of military mobilization plans, alliances, and treaties arrayed into a doomsday machine and short-term diplomatic maneuvers.

brownstone.org

 

[Dawg]

Sounds like the unions need to do more organizing (in the South for example) so the manufacturers can’t open elsewhere without paying union wages either.

Was your bookstore clerk job Union?
Saw a report tonight, autos loans are now for 84months, average monthly payment $758, loans as that, interest add like $5000 to cost, do you see why 100's of 1000's of auto are setting on dealers lots?

Cars built in the South, employees are Union, it's clear the South bigots have never had the pleasure of being here.