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Sir John Chilcot has outlined his findings on the UK's involvement in the 2003 Iraq War and the lessons to be learned from it.

The report spans almost a decade of UK government policy decisions between 2001 and 2009.

It covers the background to the decision to go to war, whether troops were properly prepared, how the conflict was conducted and what planning there was for its aftermath, a period in which there was intense sectarian violence.

The main points are:

  • The UK chose to join the invasion of Iraq before the peaceful options for disarmament had been exhausted. Military action at that time was not a last resort.
  • Military action might have been necessary later, but in March 2003: There was no imminent threat from Saddam Hussein; The strategy of containment could have been adapted and continued for some time; The majority of the Security Council supported continuing UN inspections and monitoring.
  • Judgements about the severity of threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction - known as WMD - were presented with a certainty that was not justified.
  • Intelligence had "not established beyond doubt" that Saddam Hussein had continued to produce chemical and biological weapons.
  • Policy on Iraq was made on the basis of flawed intelligence assessments. It was not challenged, and should have been.
  • The circumstances in which it was decided that there was a legal basis for UK military action were "far from satisfactory".
  • The invasion began on 20 March 2003 but not until 13 March did then Attorney General Lord Goldsmith advise there was on balance a secure legal basis for military action. Apart from No 10's response to his letter on 14 March, no formal record was made of that decision and the precise grounds on which it was made remain unclear.
  • The UK's actions undermined the authority of the United Nations Security Council: The UN's Charter puts responsibility for the maintenance of peace and security in the Security Council. The UK government was claiming to act on behalf of the international community "to uphold the authority of the Security Council". But it knew it did not have a majority supporting its actions.
  • In Cabinet, there was little questioning of Lord Goldsmith about his advice and no substantive discussion of the legal issues recorded.
  • There was "little time" to properly prepare three military brigades for deployment in Iraq. The risks were neither "properly identified nor fully exposed" to ministers, resulting in "equipment shortfalls".
  • Between 2003 and 2009, UK forces in Iraq faced gaps in some key capability areas - including armoured vehicles, reconnaissance and intelligence assets and helicopter support.
  • It was not sufficiently clear which person in the department within the Ministry of Defence had responsibility for identifying and articulating such gaps.
  • Delays in providing adequate medium weight protected patrol vehicles and the failure to meet the needs of UK forces for reconnaissance and intelligence equipment and helicopters should not have been tolerated.
  • On 28 July 2002, the then Prime Minister Tony Blair assured US President George W Bush he would be with him "whatever". But in the letter, he pointed out that a US coalition for military action would need: Progress on the Middle East peace process; UN authority; and a shift in public opinion in the UK, Europe, and among Arab leaders.
  • Despite explicit warnings, the consequences of the invasion were underestimated. The planning and preparations for Iraq after Saddam Hussein were "wholly inadequate".
  • The government failed to achieve the stated objectives it had set itself in Iraq. More than 200 British citizens died as a result of the conflict. Iraqi people suffered greatly. By July 2009, at least 150,000 Iraqis had died, probably many more. More than one million were displaced.
  • The report sets out lessons to be learned: It found Mr Blair overestimated his ability to influence US decisions on Iraq; and the UK's relationship with the US does not require unconditional support.
  • It said ministerial discussion which encourages frank and informed debate and challenge is important. As is ensuring civilian and military arms of government are properly equipped.
  • In future, all aspects of any intervention need to be calculated, debated and challenged with rigour. Decisions need to be fully implemented.

http://www.iraqinquiry.org.uk/the-report/
 
Hopefully Blair will do the right thing and admit the whole reason for going into Iraq was completely fabricated...
 
Lukey said:
Hopefully Blair will do the right thing and admit the whole reason for going into Iraq was completely fabricated...
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Lol ---------- You must be joking Lukey, he has been on TV nonstop telling us we had no right to vote out of the EU and that Parliament should deny us our vote.

There is to be a new long term presidency for the EU at some point and he was to be the first - he would have had the powers of a dictator, as the Lisbon Treaties amenability would allow that. He is still dreaming ---- quite quite mad.

A group of MPs are ready to have him indicted and I can't tell you how many are after his blood -literally. Many want to see him hung almost all of us want to see him in the dock.

Even though I am reading law I am not one for retribution or punishment and all that but we can't just leave this, it is not that examples have to be made but that no one should be seen to be above the law. There are arrest warrants at the ready - who willsign one of them though?

I tell ya it is all going on here ----------- our PM though btw has buggered off on his hols
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Queen Titania said:
Iraq?
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Will Blair be prosecuted?
"In Iraq, the death toll from Saturday’s car bombing in Baghdad has topped 250, making it the deadliest car bombing in Iraq since the 2003 U.S. invasion.

"While Iraq is in a state of mourning, a long-awaited British inquiry into the Iraq War has just been released. It blames former British Prime Minister Tony Blair for deliberately exaggerating the threat posed by Saddam Hussein in the lead-up to the Iraq War.

"We speak with Iraqi exile Sami Ramadani, who campaigned against U.S.-led sanctions and the invasion and occupation of Iraq."
http://www.democracynow.org/2016/7/6/iraqi_exile_uk_iraq_inquiry_confirms
 
georgephillip said:
Will Blair be prosecuted?
"In Iraq, the death toll from Saturday’s car bombing in Baghdad has topped 250, making it the deadliest car bombing in Iraq since the 2003 U.S. invasion.

"While Iraq is in a state of mourning, a long-awaited British inquiry into the Iraq War has just been released. It blames former British Prime Minister Tony Blair for deliberately exaggerating the threat posed by Saddam Hussein in the lead-up to the Iraq War.

"We speak with Iraqi exile Sami Ramadani, who campaigned against U.S.-led sanctions and the invasion and occupation of Iraq."
http://www.democracynow.org/2016/7/6/iraqi_exile_uk_iraq_inquiry_confirms
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Will he be? That is not impossible.
 
Queen Titania said:
Lol ---------- You must be joking Lukey, he has been on TV nonstop telling us we had no right to vote out of the EU and that Parliament should deny us our vote.

There is to be a new long term presidency for the EU at some point and he was to be the first - he would have had the powers of a dictator, as the Lisbon Treaties amenability would allow that. He is still dreaming ---- quite quite mad.

A group of MPs are ready to have him indicted and I can't tell you how many are after his blood -literally. Many want to see him hung almost all of us want to see him in the dock.

Even though I am reading law I am not one for retribution or punishment and all that but we can't just leave this, it is not that examples have to be made but that no one should be seen to be above the law. There are arrest warrants at the ready - who willsign one of them though?

I tell ya it is all going on here ----------- our PM though btw has buggered off on his hols
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Yes, I just did my daily perusal of the Daily Mail and it's all over their headlines. Sheesh, what a sleezy dirt bag. It looks like he just had a huge man crush on George W. Bush.
 
Queen Titania said:
Will he be? That is not impossible.
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Tony's net worth

https://www.rt.com/uk/335653-tony-blair-property-empire/

"Former UK Prime Minister Tony Blair and his family own a property empire worth an estimated £27 million, it has emerged. The princely portfolio is thought to include at least 10 houses and 27 flats.

"Blair has helped his three eldest children on to the property ladder, ensuring each has their own home in central London within a short distance of the Georgian townhouse near Hyde Park bought by the Blairs when they left Downing Street.":rolleyes:
Hopefully, Blair, Bush, and Cheney will die in prison for what their mission accomplished.
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georgephillip said:
Millions of somethings:
https://www.rt.com/uk/335653-tony-blair-property-empire/
"Tony Blair amassed a considerable fortune after leaving politics in 2007, with some estimates putting his total net worth at £60 million, according to a detailed analysis published by the Telegraph last year."
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Lukey said:
Yes, I just did my daily perusal of the Daily Mail and it's all over their headlines. Sheesh, what a sleezy dirt bag. It looks like he just had a huge man crush on George W. Bush.
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In full

 
Queen Titania said:


In full

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I couldn't bring myself to listen to the entire "show."
His tears reminded me of Ronald Reagan without all the acting classes.
I wonder if Rich Tony will donate all of his fortune to the people of Iraq (not really)
He and Bush and Cheney deserve to die in prison for what they did to Iraq.
 
georgephillip said:
I couldn't bring myself to listen to the entire "show."
His tears reminded me of Ronald Reagan without all the acting classes.
I wonder if Rich Tony will donate all of his fortune to the people of Iraq (not really)
He and Bush and Cheney deserve to die in prison for what they did to Iraq.
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It isn't that long - lol. He is broken by it, it hurt me actually - the picture of regret for a decision, the consequence of which were terrible, made for all of the wrong reasons - it touched me for those sorts of reasons - He was a weak man - he is now a haunted and broken one and but saying that which will protect him from prosecution only -
 
Queen Titania said:
It isn't that long - lol. He is broken by it, it hurt me actually - the picture of regret for a decision, the consequence of which were terrible, made for all of the wrong reasons - it touched me for those sorts of reasons - He was a weak man - he is now a haunted and broken one and but saying that which will protect him from prosecution only -
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I hope you know better.
Blair is a classic psychopath who generates tears on demand as effortlessly as he engenders blood profits for war whores.
He and his ilk deserve to be sold, along with all their families, on the ISIS auction block:D
 
georgephillip said:
I hope you know better.
Blair is a classic psychopath who generates tears on demand as effortlessly as he engenders blood profits for war whores.
He and his ilk deserve to be sold, along with all their families, on the ISIS auction block:D
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I didn't see any tears and I'm not interested in any Fraudian nonsense - this is about humanity and in this human being we see the consequence of selling ones soul to the devil.
 
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