"Civility"

[marvin martian]

I just despise the hypocrisy on the issue. Republicans conveniently forgot how pissed off they were from 2009-2017. Now they want to hold Democrats to a higher standard than they held themselves.

We really just want you to stop killing people who disagree with your politics.

 

[freyasman]

I just despise the hypocrisy on the issue. Republicans conveniently forgot how pissed off they were from 2009-2017. Now they want to hold Democrats to a higher standard than they held themselves.

Pissed is one thing, chasing people out of a public space is something else.
I'm not trying to point fingers at a side so much as I am trying to point out that people who have no experience with violence, are setting us all up to be in a very violent situation.... and that is going to seriously suck.
Tell you a little secret; people that have actually had to deal with a lot of violence, spend a lot of their time and effort trying to keep things from getting violent in the first place. People that haven't, don't seem to give a shit.... until they see all the blood.

 

[ObamacareForever]

We really just want you to stop killing people who disagree with your politics.

Did you put the bomb in Soros mailbox?

 

[ObamacareForever]

Pissed is one thing, chasing people out of a public space is something else.

Funny, I seem to remember you accosting David Hogg and chasing him off the street. I am not saying anything is wrong the act itself, just hypocritical when you tell me I can't go accost Mitch McConnell the next time I see him.

 

[NinaS]

Sure wasn’t the Boulder that was thrown through a GOP candidates window yesterday.

Another day, another leftist act of violent intimidation.

How about the explosive put in George Soros' mailbox? Would you lie and say that's an act from "LEFTISTS?"

 

[NinaS]

Did you put the bomb in Soros mailbox?

AH...sorry I didn't see this post and asked the same thing. LOL

 

[NinaS]

I figured. Because if you ever had, you wouldn't have any trouble understanding.

You're wanting someone to ask you about 'it'. So you can blab some far-fetched story about yourself. You and dawg should get a room.

 

[NinaS]

Pissed is one thing, chasing people out of a public space is something else.
I'm not trying to point fingers at a side so much as I am trying to point out that people who have no experience with violence, are setting us all up to be in a very violent situation.... and that is going to seriously suck.
Tell you a little secret; people that have actually had to deal a lot of violence, spend a lot of their time and effort trying to keep things from getting violent in the first place. People that haven't, don't seem to give a shit.... until they see all the blood.

You spend a lot of time here in PJ ruffling feathers, bragging about your 'experiences' and calling others filthy names. You're not someone who should be talking about civility at all. And no...we don't want to hear about your 'experiences with violence'.

 

[marvin martian]

How about the explosive put in George Soros' mailbox? Would you lie and say that's an act from "LEFTISTS?"

It very likely was, assuming it's even true. You people are very, very violent.

 

[NinaS]

It very likely was, assuming it's even true. You people are very, very violent.

Well if it isn't Bo-3 from Political Hotwire forum. How's it going soc?

 

[freyasman]

Funny, I seem to remember you accosting David Hogg and chasing him off the street. I am not saying anything is wrong the act itself, just hypocritical when you tell me I can't go accost Mitch McConnell the next time I see him.

I didn't chase him off, I asked him a question in passing, he stopped to respond, and when that stopped being fun for him, he went on his way. And he was in town to try and whip up support for the anti-freedom agenda that he advocates, so not fair to try and say I chased him off, as though I had tracked him to a restaurant and wouldn't leave him alone; the 2 situations don't equate.
And one of the reasons I did it, was I wasn't afraid of him or any of his people getting violent with me for it.... they like using force to make people do what they want, but only through proxies, and only when they themselves are a safe distance away. The potential for violence, is what enforces the rules of civil behavior.

 

[ObamacareForever]

I didn't chase him off, I asked him a question in passing, he stopped to respond, and when that stopped being fun for him, he went on his way. And he was in town to try and whip up support for the anti-freedom agenda that he advocates, so not fair to try and say I chased him off, as though I had tracked him to a restaurant and wouldn't leave him alone; the 2 situations don't equate.
And one of the reasons I did it, was I wasn't afraid of him or any of his people getting violent with me for it.... they like using force to make people do what they want, but only through proxies, and only when they themselves are a safe distance away. The potential for violence, is what enforces the rules of civil behavior.

Ok, clearly you haven't held a mirror up the situation in regards to your own civility. Don't worry bro, you don't need to make up excuses for why you accosted a public figure on the street. You disagreed with his politics, and you let him know. No biggie, I wouldn't describe it as civil though.

 

[freyasman]

You spend a lot of time here in PJ ruffling feathers, bragging about your 'experiences' and calling others filthy names. You're not someone who should be talking about civility at all. And no...we don't want to hear about your 'experiences with violence'.

And look at who I behave that way towards.... all of them are folks like you, who despite your complete lack of character, and murderous impulses, all of you whom I address that way, are too cowardly to do anything about it. Even if we were face to face, you would never try to attack me physically for it, or even get to far out of line verbally.... because I am a man of violent experience, and that potential for more keeps your crazy asses in line.

 

[ObamacareForever]

And look at who I behave that way towards....

I could say the same thing about being a d*ck to Republicans.

 

[freyasman]

Ok, clearly you haven't held a mirror up the situation in regards to your own civility. Don't worry bro, you don't need to make up excuses for why you accosted a public figure on the street. You disagreed with his politics, and you let him know. No biggie, I wouldn't describe it as civil though.

I didn't describe it as civil; I'm not trying to say I'm a civil person, or even that I put much effort into maintaining civility in my interactions..... but that doesn't mean I think society shouldn't be trying to. I got all this experience by being raised in and living in, some just plain fucked up environments.... you don't want to go there as a society. (You don't even want to go there for a long weekend on vacation, because it truly sucks.)

 

[ObamacareForever]

I didn't describe it as civil; I'm not trying to say I'm a civil person, or even that I put much effort into maintaining civility in my interactions..... but that doesn't mean I think society shouldn't be trying to. I got all this experience by being raised in and living in, some just plain fucked up environments.... you don't want to go there as a society. (You don't even want to go there for a long weekend on vacation, because it truly sucks.)

You shouldn't hold others to a higher standard than you hold yourself. Be the change you want in the world.

 

[freyasman]

I could say the same thing about being a d*ck to Republicans.

And now we're getting somewhere...
That's my point; the folks who are doing this, have no idea of how bad it could get if they go too far, or pick the wrong target. They not only feel justified in doing it, they have this attitude (similar to yours) that their victims "wouldn't dare respond violently..." , that's the kind of assumption that, when it goes wrong, it goes really wrong... like dead people on the street, wrong.
Some people just don't give a fvck, and some people (and these are the scarier ones IMO) do care, so they carefully and quietly track you down and take you out later.

 

[ObamacareForever]

And now we're getting somewhere...
That's my point; the folks who are doing this, have no idea of how bad it could get if they go too far, or pick the wrong target. They not only feel justified in doing it, they have this attitude (similar to yours) that their victims "wouldn't dare respond violently..." , that's the kind of assumption that, when it goes wrong, it goes really wrong... like dead people on the street, wrong.
Some people just don't give a fvck, and some people (and these are the scarier ones IMO) do care, so they carefully and quietly track you down and take you out later.

Then police the people who don't give a f*ck and don't take away uncivil trolls first amendment rights.

 

[freyasman]

You shouldn't hold others to a higher standard than you hold yourself. Be the change you want in the world.

I mostly don't have a problem with some people behaving this stupidly because in the places I come from, it's a self-correcting problem; they know what sort of shit they are risking, and if they do it until someone gives them an educational beat-down, or just kills them as a warning to everyone else, then I'm okay with that. "Big Boy Rules".
I start to get twitchy, when I see it going mainstream, and being done by people who have no idea what they are starting. They have a literal lake of gasoline, with a barge full of dynamite floating on it, and they are throwing lit matches towards the water because they simply don't know what the fvck they are doing.

 

[freyasman]

Then police the people who don't give a f*ck and don't take away uncivil trolls first amendment rights.

That's what insisting on "civility" is; it's policing the behavior of ourselves and others.