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PNWest

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Conservatives (Republicans these days) ALWAYS work for the rich at the expense of everyone else. They rely on the three B's to get elected.

(B)illionaires - the ones that OWN the party and make the actual policies
(B)igots - The racists who like the idea of hurting minorities and keeping dark skinned people from coming to the country
(B)ible Thumpers - Fake Christians that believe that the Bible actually condemns abortion but says nothing about helping the poor.


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middleview

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Conservatives (Republicans these days) ALWAYS work for the rich at the expense of everyone else. They rely on the three B's to get elected.

(B)illionaires - the ones that OWN the party and make the actual policies
(B)igots - The racists who like the idea of hurting minorities and keeping dark skinned people from coming to the country
(B)ible Thumpers - Fake Christians that believe that the Bible actually condemns abortion but says nothing about helping the poor.


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True, but...the tax is on benefits when total income is over some limit

 

JuliefromOhio

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He looked good on TV, but that was it.
Reagan led the country to distrust govt and race baited with his "welfare queen" baloney.
 

Addy

Rebuild With Biden!
Anything that actually helps people enhance and advance their circumstances in life, it's what the repubs like to refer to as socialism.
What a bunch,.. very few repubs these days with a code of ethics.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Anything that actually helps people enhance and advance their circumstances in life, it's what the repubs like to refer to as socialism.
What a bunch,.. very few repubs these days with a code of ethics.
You obviously aren't including getting a job on that list. What a shock!
 

Addy

Rebuild With Biden!
You obviously aren't including getting a job on that list. What a shock!
Conservatives (Republicans these days) ALWAYS work for the rich at the expense of everyone else. They rely on the three B's to get elected.

This quote from the top thread was what I was replying to

Obviously as the saying goes, no man is an island... It takes more than the work of one individual to make the wheels of a nation function. Repubs want to nix all Biden proposes... not a shock, they did the same with Obama.
 

Dawg

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This quote from the top thread was what I was replying to

Obviously as the saying goes, no man is an island... It takes more than the work of one individual to make the wheels of a nation function. Repubs want to nix all Biden proposes... not a shock, they did the same with Obama.
Leftist did the same with Trump and when it wasn't working they created a Pandemic........

It's just the way it is now and both parties do it
 

Addy

Rebuild With Biden!
Leftist did the same with Trump and when it wasn't working they created a Pandemic........

It's just the way it is now and both parties do it
My goodness, Dawg, it's unbelievable you would say such a thing... dems creating a pandemic, you can't be serious.
Trump's interests were not for the best interests of the country -- his interests were primarily for his own benefit, Enriching himself/his family and his cohorts were his top priorities.
Trump has actually been regarded by many as a security threat to the country.
 

reason10

Governor
He looked good on TV, but that was it.
Reagan led the country to distrust govt and race baited with his "welfare queen" baloney.
Reagan inherited a disaster of an economy and inside of three years gave America the BEST economy, HIGHEST employment figures and HIGHEST personal income. His policies also stopped raging runaway inflation. Reagan also defeated the deadliest enemy America has ever known: The Soviet Union.

He was the greatest president of the 20th Century.

And it took Joe, the unelected pResident less than six months to put out policies exactly OPPOSITE of Reagan's and plunge America into an economy almost a mirror image of Carter's.
 

PNWest

America's BEST American: Impartial and Bipartisan
My goodness, Dawg, it's unbelievable you would say such a thing... dems creating a pandemic, you can't be serious.
Trump's interests were not for the best interests of the country -- his interests were primarily for his own benefit, Enriching himself/his family and his cohorts were his top priorities.
Trump has actually been regarded by many as a security threat to the country.
Yes. I agree. A comment like that should be moved to my "Yeah, they really are that stupid thread."
 

middleview

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Reagan inherited a disaster of an economy and inside of three years gave America the BEST economy, HIGHEST employment figures and HIGHEST personal income. His policies also stopped raging runaway inflation. Reagan also defeated the deadliest enemy America has ever known: The Soviet Union.

He was the greatest president of the 20th Century.

And it took Joe, the unelected pResident less than six months to put out policies exactly OPPOSITE of Reagan's and plunge America into an economy almost a mirror image of Carter's.
The unemployment rate in January 1981 was 7%. Reagan got his tax cuts and most went into effect in early 1982...the unemployment rate climbed to 10.8% by November 1982 and stayed there until August 1983. The unemployment rate didn't go below 7% until early 1986. From 1981 to 1993 when Clinton took over from the Reagan/Bush administrations the national debt had quadrupled.

Every president from Truman to Reagan fought the Soviet Union. Basically we out spent them. We fought wars in Korea, Vietnam and elsewhere. We defied them when they blockaded Berlin. Carter aided the rebels against the communists in Afghanistan.
 

Addy

Rebuild With Biden!
You obviously aren't including getting a job on that list. What a shock!
Biden's views on capitalism are to be admired and strived for... so far so good.
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On Monday, the president spoke about the economic recovery and the threat of inflation. He poked fun at the GOP’s warnings “that if I got elected, I’d bring the end to capitalism.” “Six months into my administration, the U.S. economy has experienced the highest economic growth rate in nearly 40 years,” he observed. “It turns out capitalism is alive and very well. We’re making serious progress to ensure that it works the way it’s supposed to work: for the good of the American people.”

In Biden’s words, the political system must “ensure that all working Americans benefit from the growth they’re helping produce.” That means we should measure the economy’s health by wages, not just corporate valuations. “I don’t look at the stock market as a means by which to judge the economy, like my predecessor did,” said the president.

In Biden’s version of capitalism, workers don’t just compete with one another for jobs; employers have to compete with other employers for workers. Right now, due to a labor shortage, “Companies across the country are giving workers a raise,” he noted. He tweaked Republicans for complaining about this trend, as though it’s “a problem if big companies have actually to compete for workers and offer them a fair wage.”

In Biden’s version of capitalism, government spending can facilitate commerce and competition. “Investments in better roads, bridges, transit systems, and high-speed Internet, and a modern, resilient electric grid”—in Washington terms, infrastructure—can open “the bottlenecks in our economy,” he explained. “Goods get to consumers more rapidly and less expensively. Small businesses create and innovate much more seamlessly.” On this, some Republicans agree. But Biden went further. He argued that “quality, affordable child care, elder care, [and] paid leave,” which Republicans dismiss as unnecessary social spending, could “enhance our productivity” by enabling “more people [to] enter the workforce.”


Biden understands that in an unregulated market, the first thing successful competitors will do is subvert competition. That’s why, earlier this month, he signed an executive order to tighten enforcement of antitrust laws, facilitate drug importation, require companies to disclose more information for comparison shoppers, and restrict anti-competitive employment, rental, and consumer contracts. The point of the executive order, he explained on Monday, was to promote “fair and open competition … the cornerstone of American capitalism” by helping new businesses take on “giant corporations who have been free to ramp up prices because they haven’t had any real competition.”

Biden just explained why his version of capitalism is better than the GOP’s. (slate.com)


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Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Biden's views on capitalism are to be admired and strived for... so far so good.
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On Monday, the president spoke about the economic recovery and the threat of inflation. He poked fun at the GOP’s warnings “that if I got elected, I’d bring the end to capitalism.” “Six months into my administration, the U.S. economy has experienced the highest economic growth rate in nearly 40 years,” he observed. “It turns out capitalism is alive and very well. We’re making serious progress to ensure that it works the way it’s supposed to work: for the good of the American people.”

In Biden’s words, the political system must “ensure that all working Americans benefit from the growth they’re helping produce.” That means we should measure the economy’s health by wages, not just corporate valuations. “I don’t look at the stock market as a means by which to judge the economy, like my predecessor did,” said the president.

In Biden’s version of capitalism, workers don’t just compete with one another for jobs; employers have to compete with other employers for workers. Right now, due to a labor shortage, “Companies across the country are giving workers a raise,” he noted. He tweaked Republicans for complaining about this trend, as though it’s “a problem if big companies have actually to compete for workers and offer them a fair wage.”

In Biden’s version of capitalism, government spending can facilitate commerce and competition. “Investments in better roads, bridges, transit systems, and high-speed Internet, and a modern, resilient electric grid”—in Washington terms, infrastructure—can open “the bottlenecks in our economy,” he explained. “Goods get to consumers more rapidly and less expensively. Small businesses create and innovate much more seamlessly.” On this, some Republicans agree. But Biden went further. He argued that “quality, affordable child care, elder care, [and] paid leave,” which Republicans dismiss as unnecessary social spending, could “enhance our productivity” by enabling “more people [to] enter the workforce.”


Biden understands that in an unregulated market, the first thing successful competitors will do is subvert competition. That’s why, earlier this month, he signed an executive order to tighten enforcement of antitrust laws, facilitate drug importation, require companies to disclose more information for comparison shoppers, and restrict anti-competitive employment, rental, and consumer contracts. The point of the executive order, he explained on Monday, was to promote “fair and open competition … the cornerstone of American capitalism” by helping new businesses take on “giant corporations who have been free to ramp up prices because they haven’t had any real competition.”

Biden just explained why his version of capitalism is better than the GOP’s. (slate.com)


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Thanks To Inflation, American Wages Drop By Nearly 2% | The Daily Wire

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Addy

Rebuild With Biden!
Biden's response makes sense.
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We also know that as our economy has come roaring back, we’ve seen some price increases. Some folks have raised worries that this could be a sign of persistent inflation. But that’s not our view. Our experts believe and the data shows that most of the price increases we’ve seen are — were expected and expected to be temporary.

Now, I want to be clear: My administration understands that if we were to ever experience unchecked inflation over the long term that would pose real challenges to our economy. So while we’re confident that isn’t what we are seeing today, we’re going to remain vigilant about any response that is needed.

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Despite rising levels of inflation, the Federal Reserve has declined to increase its near-zero interest rate target or taper its $120 billion monthly asset purchases — both of which increase the supply of the dollar in the American economy.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Biden's response makes sense.
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We also know that as our economy has come roaring back, we’ve seen some price increases. Some folks have raised worries that this could be a sign of persistent inflation. But that’s not our view. Our experts believe and the data shows that most of the price increases we’ve seen are — were expected and expected to be temporary.

Now, I want to be clear: My administration understands that if we were to ever experience unchecked inflation over the long term that would pose real challenges to our economy. So while we’re confident that isn’t what we are seeing today, we’re going to remain vigilant about any response that is needed.

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Despite rising levels of inflation, the Federal Reserve has declined to increase its near-zero interest rate target or taper its $120 billion monthly asset purchases — both of which increase the supply of the dollar in the American economy.
So the wage declines he has delivered are just "temporary?" Well that's comforting to those of us who haven't had a raise in two years when we fill up our vehicles with $70 worth of gas.
 

Addy

Rebuild With Biden!
So the wage declines he has delivered are just "temporary?" Well that's comforting to those of us who haven't had a raise in two years when we fill up our vehicles with $70 worth of gas.
Supply bottlenecks... things will eventually get better.
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Supply ‘bottlenecks’ are driving a consumer price surge. Here’s how that affects inflation


Inflation is being temporarily boosted by base effects, as the sharp pandemic-related price increases from last spring drop out of the 12-month calculation. In addition, strong demand in sectors where production bottlenecks or other supply constraints have limited production has led to especially rapid price increases for some goods and services, which should partially reverse as the effects of the bottlenecks unwind.
  • Well, it's hard to argue that they're insignificant when you see 5 percent jump in prices in one year.
    What's driving them, in part, is that the economy has recovered faster than a lot of producers expected, so you have got demand going up and supply is not able to meet it. And that is leading to price increases.
    And there are also are some unusual bottlenecks, the fact that rental car companies didn't buy a lot of cars, so they're not selling a lot of cars on used car lots, is partly responsible for driving up the price of used cars. And, similarly, we have a chip shortage that's leading lots of things that use computer chips, which is almost everything these days, to suffer increases in price because supply is restrained.
  • Judy Woodruff:
    So, was the Federal Reserve and was the Biden administration caught off-guard on this?
  • David Wessel:
    Yes, I think that — one of the things Chair Powell said in the congressional hearing is that inflation has been higher than we expected and a little bit more persistent than we had expected and hoped.
    So they knew this was coming, but it's more than they anticipated, and I think that's got some of them a little bit worried.
  • Judy Woodruff:
    But they still are arguing, for the most part, as I understand it, that this is not a long-term problem. What is the basis for their believing that?
  • David Wessel:
    Well, basically, what they say is that, to the extent that this is caused by temporary bottlenecks, by the fact that so many more people are getting on airplanes, that so many people are going out to eat, that we have these temporary supply shortages, that's going to abate.
    And, indeed, we have seen a little bit of that, already. Lumber prices went up and they came down. Prices of containers, those things that go on big ships, went up, and they have come down. So what they're counting on is this is all temporary and once things get a little back to normal, prices will return — will fall and the average inflation rate will move close to the Fed's 2 percent target.
  • Judy Woodruff:
    But, on the other hand, as you pointed out, there's another point of view on the part of people like the former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers and others, who say, no, wait a minute, this inflation should be a big concern.
  • David Wessel:
    Right.
    So people like Larry Summers, Larry Fink, who's the head of BlackRock, a big Wall Street you remember firm, the folks at Bridgewater, a hedge fund, they are all saying essentially that the Fed is too complacent, that while some of this is temporary, they're worried that some of it is not temporary, that housing prices are going to continue to rise because demand exceeds supply, that wages are starting to go up.
    And they're afraid the Fed will wait too long to raise interest rates and repeat the mistakes they made in the 1970s, when they let inflation get out of control. On the other hand, other people look at a different historical period and said, this is something like the end of World War II.
    There is a lot of disruption because we have come back from the pandemic, and they expect this to decline. One really important thing is what economists call inflation expectations. If financial markets in particular begin to build in expectations then that we are going to see much faster inflation, that could lead to a self-fulfilling problem.
  • Judy Woodruff:
    And what determines whether that's going to happen or not?
  • David Wessel:
    Does supply grow enough to meet the demand?
    And there are a lot of people who are not working now who were working before the pandemic. Do they all come into the job market and does that temper the pace of wage increases? So it really depends who these bottlenecks are long-term problems or just temporary as we get out of this very unusual period.
    I don't think anybody really knows for sure. The Fed is definitely betting that this is temporary. And that — and, interestingly, the financial markets seem to believe that. The financial markets are not predicting the kind of big increase in inflation that Larry Summers or Larry Fink are talking about.
  • Judy Woodruff:
    David, if the Fed is wrong, what are the consequences?
  • David Wessel:
    Well, if the Fed decides it was wrong — and Jay Powell made this point today — they may raise interest rates sooner than people are anticipating.
    If they don't do that and they're wrong, we could get more inflation. In my opinion, because inflation has been so low, it might not be such a bad increase, but if it's a big increase, and the Fed overreacts, you could have a run-up in inflation, an increase in interest rates, and then a recession.
    Historically, that was quite common. It hasn't happened for the last quarter-century. But that's the risk. They let it get out of control, they have to react abruptly by raising rates, and then we have an unwelcome recession.
  • Judy Woodruff:
    Watching it all very closely.
    David Wessel, director of the Hutchins Center on Fiscal and Monetary Policy at the Brookings Institution.
    Thank you, David.
  • David Wessel:
    You're welcome.
    Supply ‘bottlenecks’ are driving a consumer price surge. Here’s how that affects inflation | PBS NewsHour

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Dawg

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My goodness, Dawg, it's unbelievable you would say such a thing... dems creating a pandemic, you can't be serious.
Trump's interests were not for the best interests of the country -- his interests were primarily for his own benefit, Enriching himself/his family and his cohorts were his top priorities.
Trump has actually been regarded by many as a security threat to the country.
Just as Biden has done for 50 years and still doing it with Hunters (cough) ART
 

Addy

Rebuild With Biden!
Just as Biden has done for 50 years and still doing it with Hunters (cough) ART
Biden did release his income tax records, there must have been nothing to hide. Totally opposite scenario when it came to Trump obliging with the same.
Regarding Hunter's art, many repubs seemed to have found a code of ethics over that but absent when Trump's family was cashing in. :rolleyes:
 
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