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[Tor-Pete-O]

Full throated suppprt for the proposition that the Kremlin’s interference in our election, and all related Team Trump skulduggery, should have been swept under the rug.

Deplorable.

After a year .........what have you got?

I'll tell you what you've got ......NOTHING! Even with a whole team of partisan sycophants doing a "investigation" and the fakestream media colluding with them.

All you've got is a headache from beating your pea against the wall.

 

[Arkady]

Gowdy always struck me as an unserious investigator -- basically, his questioning is built around creating sound bites for Fox News, to keep his own face on display, rather than built around actually digging into what happened. Finding out what happened is, in fact, the last thing he wants, since that would end his star turn.

But lately it seems his corruption goes deeper than the usual media whoring of career politicians. When one of the Benghazi investigators insisted on continuing to focus on what actually happened, rather than using the investigation as a front for a partisan "Get Hillary" witch-hunt, Gowdy fired the investigator. Then, when the wrongful firing resulted in a wrongful termination lawsuit, Gowdy used $150,000 of OUR money to hush it up. Gowdy should be the target of an ethics investigation, at this point, but since he's a Republican, he'll instead be put in a position to continue his partisan witch-hunting. It's sad how far the GOP has fallen.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powe...0a9770d9a3e_story.html?utm_term=.bd03f43ba0d1

 

[Arkady]

That nut spent his whole time ranting about a guy who Mueller threw off the investigation four months ago. There’s nothing pro-American about seeking to obstruct the investigation into Kremlin interference in our election.

It's kind of interesting how Republicans are reacting to this. A career Republican ousted an investigator for being too liberal for the Republican's tastes. In theory, I could see the Democrats being upset about this partisan purge of the investigation on behalf of the Republicans. Instead, it's the Republicans who are upset, for some reason. I guess their view is that the investigation can't be free of conflicts of interests unless it's entirely purged of any Democrats and liberals, even in the lowest ranks. It's not enough that they have a career Republican Special Counsel who reports to a Republican Deputy AG, who reports to a Republican AG, who reports to the very Republican president who is under investigation. Even that isn't enough of a right-ward tilt for them. They also want to be sure that even the front-line investigators and technical personnel are right-wingers.

I can see a reason Democrats would be upset about the political makeup of this investigation, given the way that in the top ranks it amounts to an in-house investigation by Republicans of other Republicans. It doesn't look that independent from a liberal perspective. But the fact that even that isn't enough for Republicans like Gowdy shows you just how aggressive they're willing to be. As they define it, the only conflict of interest there could be is for someone on the investigative team not to be politically aligned with the people under investigation. Up is down and down is up in their world.

 

[Boca]

Sound point.


That said, the FBI guy the GOP is squawking about was thrown off the investigation four months ago due to his biases. The GOP’s efforts to squash Mueller’s investigations are disgraceful.

That said Mueller covered it up for four months. Leaked by the girl friend I think ...not sure.

But more importantly this FBI dude (bad cops are not unique) led the e-mail investigation, downgraded the severity of the crime, obtained the FISA warrant with info from the dossier Clinton bought, DOJ won't turn it over to Congress to see what "crimes" were suspected at Trump Towers.

In other words not only is Mueller's investigation tainted since the beginning, but every bit of this conspiracy since Trump announced his candidacy.

Everything should be thrown out and more than a few people thrown in jail.

 

[Tor-Pete-O]

That said Mueller covered it up for four months. Leaked by the girl friend I think ...not sure.

But more importantly this FBI dude (bad cops are not unique) led the e-mail investigation, downgraded the severity of the crime, obtained the FISA warrant with info from the dossier Clinton bought, DOJ won't turn it over to Congress to see what "crimes" were suspected at Trump Towers.

In other words not only is Mueller's investigation tainted since the beginning, but every bit of this conspiracy since Trump announced his candidacy.

Everything should be thrown out and more than a few people thrown in jail.

It was the Justice Department Inspector General that uncovered the 10,000+ text messages from Strzok to his concubine Page.

What a repugnant piece of garbage who cheats on his wife........more evidence of moral depravity by the hypocritical left.

 

[Deleted member 21794]

That nut spent his whole time ranting about a guy who Mueller threw off the investigation four months ago. There’s nothing pro-American about seeking to obstruct the investigation into Kremlin interference in our election.

Translation: I can't make up my mind. Collusion or obstruction?? I know what, I'll throw both at the wall! Never mind nothing's stuck yet!

 

[SouthernBoyI]

I never saw the answer. Where can I find it?

Other than that do you have anything to say about conflicts of interest...anything at all. You do realize that was the topic? Nobody wants to talk about it. How come?

Unfortunately my friend BDX gave the usual leftist shrug.

It is why I don’t take seriously anything the left says.

I return the shrug.

SB

 

[SW48]

Did you really just type that garbage?

Are you seriously trying to make the case that a spitefully blind partisan can be trusted to BE FAIR???? Let alone a whole cadre of spiteful, hateful partisans?

Partisan does NOT = Fair. By any stretch of the imagination.

SMH.......truly disappointed you could be that naive.

I guess I don't understand what the investigation is for? You either find proof and facts of collusion or you don't. Why does it matter what the political bend of the investigator is doing, he still has to find the same facts and proof if there is any.

What am I missing here?

 

[SouthernBoyI]

I guess I don't understand what the investigation is for? You either find proof and facts of collusion or you don't. Why does it matter what the political bend of the investigator is doing, he still has to find the same facts and proof if there is any.

What am I missing here?

As someone who did investigations for the government.....I will trust you are simply unaware.....

If an investigator is biased he can make any case look any way that they want it to.

SB

 

[SW48]

As someone who did investigations for the government.....I will trust you are simply unaware.....

If an investigator is biased he can make any case look any way that they want it to.

SB

So people can go to jail or lose their job because someone with a political agenda fools a jury into believing something that has no facts behind it?

Doesn't seem possible.

 

[ObamacareForever]

As someone who did investigations for the government.....I will trust you are simply unaware.....

If an investigator is biased he can make any case look any way that they want it to.

SB

No. Investigators uncover facts. facts are not biased.
When it comes times for Trump to face a jury, then you can bitch about bias. People are biased, and the way they interpret facts is biased, but facts are facts.

 

[SouthernBoyI]

So people can go to jail or lose their job because someone with a political agenda fools a jury into believing something that has no facts behind it?

Doesn't seem possible.

Yep

SB

 

[SouthernBoyI]

No. Investigators uncover facts. facts are not biased.
When it comes times for Trump to face a jury, then you can bitch about bias. People are biased, and the way they interpret facts is biased, but facts are facts.

Sometimes.

You are naive.

I was an investigator and also ran an investigation unit over some 80 investigators.

SB

 

[SW48]

Yep

SB

example in politics please.

 

[redtide]

No. Investigators uncover facts. facts are not biased.
When it comes times for Trump to face a jury, then you can bitch about bias. People are biased, and the way they interpret facts is biased, but facts are facts.

if that were the case then why is it that Hillary and obie are still free?

 

[Boca]

No. Investigators uncover facts. facts are not biased.
When it comes times for Trump to face a jury, then you can bitch about bias. People are biased, and the way they interpret facts is biased, but facts are facts.

When a cop plants a weapon or drugs on a suspect or in his car it's a fact they are there.

Likewise with phony documents, either purchased or developed in-house..
if you know what I mean.

 

[ObamacareForever]

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if that were the case then why is it that Hillary and obie are still free?

Because there isn't enough evidence to charge let alone convict them.

 

[redtide]

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Because there isn't enough evidence to charge let alone convict them.

really? so since neither you nor I are named Clinton what do you think would be the result of either of us destroying evidence under subpoena? ???

 

[ObamacareForever]

really? so since neither you nor I are named Clinton what do you think would be the result of either of us destroying evidence under subpoena? ???

Try to stick the facts, and not conspiracy theories.

 

[redtide]

Try to stick the facts, and not conspiracy theories.

Well it is a fact that she was subpoenaed and it is a fact that she used bleach bit to destroy the evidence so what conspiracy theory are you refering too?