Could this be true?

[Jen]

Will we ever come to the point where we aren't the Left Team and the Right Team going at each others' throats?

I wish we could all just work toward the betterment of our country as a team that wants the same thing.

I'm not saying that Rand Paul is the answer. He may not be. He probably won't be. But I appreciate the thought.

 

[LeRoy_Was_Here]

Rand Paul isn't up-to-date with what the people really want, either. Unless maybe you think the people would really want to go back to segregated lunch counters and separate water fountains, etc.

 

[marvin martian]

Jen, I hope you didn't think this would become anything other than a Rand Paul-bashing thread by the Obama Human Shield Brigade...:der:

 

[Jen]

I always hope for intelligent discussion of an issue, but I'm not shocked when it doesn't happen.
Sometimes it does happen though, so there's hope.

Jen

Jen, I hope you didn't think this would become anything other than a Rand Paul-bashing thread by the Obama Human Shield Brigade...:der:

 

[Jen]

I don't agree with Rand Paul on many levels, but I do agree that those we elect to govern us should start paying attention to us.

Rand Paul isn't up-to-date with what the people really want, either. Unless maybe you think the people would really want to go back to segregated lunch counters and separate water fountains, etc.

 

[Yuri Zhivago]

I always hope for intelligent discussion of an issue,

Jen

so how come you never engage in one ?

 

[LeRoy_Was_Here]

I don't agree with Rand Paul on many levels, but I do agree that those we elect to govern us should start paying attention to us.

So write your Congressman a letter. Shrug.

 

[Yuri Zhivago]

So write your Congressman a letter. Shrug.

better question will be if you ask jen , on which levels and what exactly she disagrees with concerning R.Paul positions. Bet you nice dinner, the fun will ensue

 

[Saladin2]

Rand Paul was pushing an amendment to ......Get the US out of the UN!....How long has that non sense been kicked around?...The guy is a clown

 

[Mytzlplk]

No, it's BS, as evidenced by the polls on the issues of our times favoring dems, and the approval rating of the repubs

or are you inquiring about the laughable effort at a pres run he's likely on?

As long as there are rightwingers like you and Paul, we'll be going at each others throats.

 

[Wulk]

It's US politics, Jen. Two sides with completely opposite viewpoints. One wants a system whereby if you want anything, like healthcare, food, heating, decent clothing, and a roof over your head, then, darn well work for it. The other says that the rich should be taxed more to provide for the poorer off; that, no-one should starve, or be frozen, or have to live in sub-standard accommodation - one side are Nazis, the other communists!

There are quite a few things that both political parties agree on: Israel must come before US interests. Iran must be attacked. US citizens must be under more surveillance - they call it national security. US citizens can be sentenced to death, without any trial. Business comes before people. People are entitled to own, and bear, firearms, as long as they don't do it near any politician. Free speech is fine, as long as it's in Congress, or Senate, but.... not in the streets, and, certainly not at any political meeting. 4 per cent of the worlds' population is entitled to dictate to the other 96 per cent. Then there's the FDA.

 

[888888]

I always hope for intelligent discussion of an issue, but I'm not shocked when it doesn't happen.
Sometimes it does happen though, so there's hope.

Jen

and who would you think would be part of that group on the right for a discussion that would look at this topic. I think Pauls dad had some decent thoughts, don't know much about the kid though.

The biggest problem I have with those on the right is they think that it should just happen and it will if done the way we think. They have a belief that because someone was able to do something then everyone should be able? That if you are not successful it's not a fault of the system but all your own.
But I do like the Pauls more when it comes to defense spending.

 

[Jen]

I just hoped I wouldn't be the only person here who thinks maybe we should all pull together to fix the country.

But (eek) you and I disagree on defense spending. I don't want to fight about it. I think that good people can disagree on details but we have hired those in DC to come together and find answers that we all can find something good about even if we don't agree with 100% of it.

and who would you think would be part of that group on the right for a discussion that would look at this topic. I think Pauls dad had some decent thoughts, don't know much about the kid though.

The biggest problem I have with those on the right is they think that it should just happen and it will if done the way we think. They have a belief that because someone was able to do something then everyone should be able? That if you are not successful it's not a fault of the system but all your own.
But I do like the Pauls more when it comes to defense spending.

 

[Wahbooz]

Sure, why not. First get rid of the Lushsters huge salary for spreading bull. Next get rid of ALEC, and it would help to get rid of the Koch Bros influence in politics. And of course a bit of the right kind of education for the electorate would help.

 

[LeRoy_Was_Here]

It's US politics, Jen. Two sides with completely opposite viewpoints. One wants a system whereby if you want anything, like healthcare, food, heating, decent clothing, and a roof over your head, then, darn well work for it. The other says that the rich should be taxed more to provide for the poorer off; that, no-one should starve, or be frozen, or have to live in sub-standard accommodation - one side are Nazis, the other communists!

There are quite a few things that both political parties agree on: Israel must come before US interests. Iran must be attacked. US citizens must be under more surveillance - they call it national security. US citizens can be sentenced to death, without any trial. Business comes before people. People are entitled to own, and bear, firearms, as long as they don't do it near any politician. Free speech is fine, as long as it's in Congress, or Senate, but.... not in the streets, and, certainly not at any political meeting. 4 per cent of the worlds' population is entitled to dictate to the other 96 per cent. Then there's the FDA.

Well, if Rand Paul wuz President, there wouldn't be no FDA! He'd get rid of that dadburned FDA, and the EPA as well, and NASA, and the Centers for Disease Control, and the NIH, and the National Science Academy, and the Department of Ejumucayshun, and the Department of Commerce, and the Department of Labor, and alla the rest of the gummint, too!

 

[Jen]

For sure, Wulk.
But once in a while I wish those sides could pull together for a few minutes........ya know..........to get us out of the ditch we seem to be in.

It's US politics, Jen. Two sides with completely opposite viewpoints. One wants a system whereby if you want anything, like healthcare, food, heating, decent clothing, and a roof over your head, then, darn well work for it. The other says that the rich should be taxed more to provide for the poorer off; that, no-one should starve, or be frozen, or have to live in sub-standard accommodation - one side are Nazis, the other communists!

There are quite a few things that both political parties agree on: Israel must come before US interests. Iran must be attacked. US citizens must be under more surveillance - they call it national security. US citizens can be sentenced to death, without any trial. Business comes before people. People are entitled to own, and bear, firearms, as long as they don't do it near any politician. Free speech is fine, as long as it's in Congress, or Senate, but.... not in the streets, and, certainly not at any political meeting. 4 per cent of the worlds' population is entitled to dictate to the other 96 per cent. Then there's the FDA.

 

[GordonGecko]

Actually, I thought Rand was pretty good as lead singer for the B52s

 

[LeRoy_Was_Here]

Actually, I thought Rand was pretty good as lead singer for the B52s

The B52s had a fine sense of humor, Gordon. Rand Paul does not.

 

[Sickofleft]

Unless maybe you think the people would really want to go back to segregated lunch counters and separate water fountains, etc

It's a nice thought, but the above statement is a perfect example of why it will never happen. The fact it was the very first response you got Jen is really funny.

 

[LeRoy_Was_Here]

Unless maybe you think the people would really want to go back to segregated lunch counters and separate water fountains, etc

It's a nice thought, but the above statement is a perfect example of why it will never happen. The fact it was the very first response you got Jen is really funny.

Unlike you, I am very familiar with Rand Paul's views on civil rights. You should take the time to inform yourself. But, undoubtedly, that would require too much work on your part.