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EatTheRich said:
More to the point, the majority patiently organizes to get the fruits of its hard work for itself rather than have it expropriated by idle exploiters.
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Nah. Moocher parasitic hordes languish and falter, seeking to extract benefits like insects.
 
RickWA said:
Nah. Moocher parasitic hordes languish and falter, seeking to extract benefits like insects.
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People like @EatTheRich are thieves. They can only call for expropriation.

I've asked a good number of union members why don't they collectively pool some bit of their money and buy shares in the means of production so they can have a vote. Companies spend 2/3 of their monies on salaries, wages and benefits. Unions have money.

They nearly shit their pants. @EatTheRich , who is U.S. based, then waxes eloquent on a farcical narrative on the perils and conditions of U.S. union workers that at best describes European union workers from the 1920's.
 
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Halo said:
In your two dimensional perspective maybe. When its up and down and not left and right communism and fascism are two sides of the same coin.

You have socialist promises and killing based on race/nationality OR class. There is a forceful expression of power over the individual in the name of the collective. Fascists such as yourself are a malevolent force against individualism. Fascists steal from the individual to give to the collective. You are the Borg.
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Communism is all about liberating the individual from systems of oppression, which is why fascists and the ruling class they serve are obliged to try to crush it.
 
Halo said:
People like @EatTheRich are thieves they can only call for expropriation.

I've asked a good number of union members why don't they collectively pool some bit of their money and buy shares in the means of production so they can have a vote. Companies spend 2/3 of their monies on salaries, wages and benefits. Unions have money.

They nearly shit their pants. @EatTheRich , who is U.S. based, then waxes eloquent on a farcical narrative on the perils and conditions of U.S. union workers that at best describes European union workers from the 1920's.
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And I explained to you why that could not result in elimination of the ruling billionaires’ ability to extract surplus value via exploitation.
 
EatTheRich said:
And I explained to you why that could not result in elimination of the ruling billionaires’ ability to extract surplus value via exploitation.
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Who gives billionaires their wealth (generally bound to their company's shares)? Who uses facebook, iphones, Walmart? You don't like billionaires don't reward them. Stop giving them your money!
 
Halo said:
Who gives billionaires their wealth (generally bound to their company's shares)? Who uses facebook, iphones, Walmart? You don't like billionaires don't reward them. Stop giving them your money!
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By purchasing items produced by working people (not billionaires) that billionaires profit from because they own land (produced by no one, not by billionaires) and tools and machines (produced by working people, not by billionaires)?

It is not an option to opt out of commerce. It is an option to change who owns the means of production.
 
Halo said:
Yeah, tell it to the KGB, Stasi et al. You don't think about these things much, do you?
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Clearly more than you have. Stalinism was the reproduction of capitalist methods and values on the basis of socialism as a centrist compromise between the two systems, often employing repression first and foremost to stop socialism’s advance, which tended to undermine Stalinism.
 
EatTheRich said:
Clearly more than you have. Stalinism was the reproduction of capitalist methods and values on the basis of socialism as a centrist compromise between the two systems, often employing repression first and foremost to stop socialism’s advance, which tended to undermine Stalinism.
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And yet I live in the land of milk and honey and don't have to contort myself to prove its value like you do for communism(fascism).

Go find me some more commie self-reported data. That's really when you prove your case. ha ha:rolleyes:
 
EatTheRich said:
By purchasing items produced by working people (not billionaires) that billionaires profit from because they own land (produced by no one, not by billionaires) and tools and machines (produced by working people, not by billionaires)?

It is not an option to opt out of commerce. It is an option to change who owns the means of production.
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This is the best excuse thieves can come up with to justify themselves.

Have a simpler life. Spend less of your money. With your saved money buy shares.

If you got a trade start a business with it.
 
Halo said:
People like @EatTheRich are thieves. They can only call for expropriation.

I've asked a good number of union members why don't they collectively pool some bit of their money and buy shares in the means of production so they can have a vote. Companies spend 2/3 of their monies on salaries, wages and benefits. Unions have money.

They nearly shit their pants. @EatTheRich , who is U.S. based, then waxes eloquent on a farcical narrative on the perils and conditions of U.S. union workers that at best describes European union workers from the 1920's.
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This dittofest belongs in the Dittoing Dullards Hall of Shame.

;-)
 
Bugsy McGurk said:
This dittofest belongs in the Dittoing Dullards Hall of Shame.

;-)
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OH, please @EatTheRich can take it. He gives as good as he takes. And if he feels in deficit in those terms I invite him to give more. ;0)


Maybe I'll make it less personal an let it be just about communists wherever I'd put ETR. But I'm tired hearing about ghost fascists in the woodwork. I'm tired of the wannabe self-romanticized insurrectionists of the communist kind that prevail in our society these days.
 
Halo said:
And yet I live in the land of milk and honey and don't have to contort myself to prove its value like you do for communism(fascism).

Go find me some more commie self-reported data. That's really when you prove your case. ha ha:rolleyes:
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And the atrocities in this country that put anything the KGB or Stasi did to shame?
 
Halo said:
Please, the fascists live in a place where their political frustration leads to ideas like national popularity vote take all, kill the college, or pack the courts, or impeach, impeach, impeach. What may appear as juvenile political impulses is really authoritarian communist proclivities shown early on in their forceful take over of an elected representative constitutional republic that is long lived like ours.

You and your friends are no bueno.

P.S. I'm for the talking filibuster but the sinister folks (the true fascists) want to abolish it completely.
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So you think electing the president by popular vote is fascism? Abolish the Electoral College? A system built as a compromise with slave states still alive after slavery was banned? Yes. You want to prevent fraud? It is far easier to steal the election as Trump attempted when you only need to turn a handful of electors that it would be to somehow fake millions of ballots.

Once again...you prove not to know the difference between fascism and communism.

Has Trump attempted to control media? Did he file lawsuits against them, all while having the power to prevent them from getting licenses to do business or to deny merger plans?
Did Trump issue instructions to his AG to prosecute his critics or opponents?
Did he send troops to occupy blue cities? A violation of Posse Comitatus.
Has Trump run the government as if it were an extension of his business? $2 billion in revenue from crypto, selling bibles and meme coins...investments in his business from foreign countries.
I wonder how many investors signed up for his $100k per month early access to his Truth Social posts....gee, that isn't corrupt at all.
Has he threatened other countries with military force...Canada? Denmark? Venezuela? It now sounds like we are looting Venezuela.
Has he offered payments for votes? $5k per person if republicans win...
 
middleview said:
Abolish the Electoral College? A system built as a compromise with slave states still alive after slavery was banned?
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WTF!?!?

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The Electoral College was created in 1787 during the Constitutional Convention. [1]
It was established by Article II of the U.S. Constitution as a compromise between electing the president through a vote in Congress versus a direct national popular
 
Halo said:
WTF!?!?

AI Overview

The Electoral College was created in 1787 during the Constitutional Convention. [1]
It was established by Article II of the U.S. Constitution as a compromise between electing the president through a vote in Congress versus a direct national popular
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In other words, a compromise between elitists who wanted an oligarchic government ruling over subjects, and democrats who wanted a government of the people, by the people, and for the people.
 
EatTheRich said:
In other words, a compromise between elitists who wanted an oligarchic government ruling over subjects, and democrats who wanted a government of the people, by the people, and for the people.
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NO, it was about how to effectuate an election across a vast landscape in horse and buggy days. Well, actually even before that. More like horse and carriage days. The details for better or worse bought mind share into the experiment our beautiful and long live founding documents offer us in posterity. Our exceptionalism. One day yours and MV perspective may yet mature. Hard to do in an environment of increasingly juvenile adults.
 
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