Dead Party Wins Congressional Race

[Zam-Zam]

The Republican Party, declared to be dead by some posters in this forum, have nonetheless somehow managed to win a congressional seat race against a Democrat, a party which is apparently just inept enough to lose to a dead party:



CLEARWATER BEACH, Fla. (AP) - Republican David Jolly defeated Democrat Alex Sink on Tuesday in a Tampa-area House district where President Barack Obama's health care overhaul got its first test ahead of November's midterm elections and both sides spent millions auditioning national strategies.

With almost 100 percent of the vote counted, Jolly had 48.5 percent of the vote to Sink's 46.7 percent. Libertarian Lucas Overby had 4.8 percent. The election was to replace 42-year Republican Rep. CW Bill Young, who died in October of cancer, and the evenly divided district had been considered a toss-up.

The implications of the dueling messages for the midterm elections inspired both parties to call in star advocates like former President Bill Clinton and former vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan, in addition to blanketing the district with ads, calls and mailings. More than $11 million has been spent on the race, according to the Sunlight Foundation, a nonprofit group that tracks government information.


Complete text: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20140312/DACFR78G0.html

 

[zzigzzag]

Wow. A Republican managed to keep a seat held by a Republican since 1971 by less than 2% of the vote in the wackiest state in the union. Dems might as well fold the tents.

Now, name the straw men you were referring to "on this forum" who "declared the Republican party dead". Let me guess. You can't remember but are sure you heard it rattling around in your head.

 

[Yuri Zhivago]

Wow. A Republican managed to keep a seat held by a Republican since 1971 by less than 2% of the vote in the wackiest state in the union. Dems might as well fold the tents.

Now, name the straw men you were referring to"on this forum" who "declared the Republican party dead".

I admit, zig, it is me, who called republican party supporters brain dead.
And I stand by that definition firmly.

 

[SW48]

If you look at a map of red vs blue by county, almost the entire country appears to be red. Just the big cities which are blue. Big divides in this country.

 

[Zam-Zam]

Lest some misguided folks think this was a slam-dunk for the Dead Party, the Lame-Enough-To-Lose-To-The-Dead-Party Party had high hopes:

While Republicans held the congressional seat for four decades until Young's death last year, the district's voters favored Obama in the 2008 and 2012 presidential elections. The district is 37 percent Republican, 35 percent Democrat and 24 percent independent.

Sink outspent Jolly by more than 3 to 1 on television advertising, though outside groups aligned with the GOP helped narrow the overall Democratic advantage.

And this:

Clinton recorded a phone call last week seeking local volunteers to help with Sink's campaign, and a half dozen House Democrats emailed fundraising appeals to their own supporters on her behalf. More than a third of Jolly's campaign contributions came from members of Congress.

In the end, it didn't matter.



The Lame-Enough-To-Lose-To-The-Dead-Party Party will now downplay the results. Only yesterday, however, this was a big deal to them.

 

[zzigzzag]

If you look at a map of red vs blue by county, almost the entire country appears to be red. Just the big cities which are blue. Big divides in this country.

If only land mass could vote. 27 states went blue. The ones with all of the people in them. Not just the "big cities". A bazillion acres went red. Obama took every swing state. That was the determining factor.

So you're right about the visual. It "looks" red. But a landslide victory indicated that we came closer together....not farther "divided". The reds just scream and cry so much when they lose that one would think there are more of them, (Gore won the popular vote by a million votes, too.)

 

[zzigzzag]

Lest some misguided folks think this was a slam-dunk for the Dead Party, the Lame-Enough-To-Lose-To-The-Dead-Party Party had high hopes:

While Republicans held the congressional seat for four decades until Young's death last year, the district's voters favored Obama in the 2008 and 2012 presidential elections. The district is 37 percent Republican, 35 percent Democrat and 24 percent independent.

Sink outspent Jolly by more than 3 to 1 on television advertising, though outside groups aligned with the GOP helped narrow the overall Democratic advantage.

And this:

Clinton recorded a phone call last week seeking local volunteers to help with Sink's campaign, and a half dozen House Democrats emailed fundraising appeals to their own supporters on her behalf. More than a third of Jolly's campaign contributions came from members of Congress.

In the end, it didn't matter.

The Lame-Enough-To-Lose-To-The-Dead-Party Party will now downplay the results. Only yesterday, however, this was a big deal to them.

So you're still hawking the straw man/false premise ruse to celebrate over a net gain of zero seats. You still cite no one who said what you claim. Pretty desperate to conflate there, Zam. Good luck with your newest repeal guy. Tell me something else about what he's going to do for the US or Floridians. Have a clue? Do you care? I don't. Boner doesn't. McConnell doesn't. Just another mindless bagger.

 

[RickWA]

The Republican Party, declared to be dead by some posters in this forum, have nonetheless somehow managed to win a congressional seat race against a Democrat, a party which is apparently just inept enough to lose to a dead party:


CLEARWATER BEACH, Fla. (AP) - Republican David Jolly defeated Democrat Alex Sink on Tuesday in a Tampa-area House district where President Barack Obama's health care overhaul got its first test ahead of November's midterm elections and both sides spent millions auditioning national strategies.

With almost 100 percent of the vote counted, Jolly had 48.5 percent of the vote to Sink's 46.7 percent. Libertarian Lucas Overby had 4.8 percent. The election was to replace 42-year Republican Rep. CW Bill Young, who died in October of cancer, and the evenly divided district had been considered a toss-up.

The implications of the dueling messages for the midterm elections inspired both parties to call in star advocates like former President Bill Clinton and former vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan, in addition to blanketing the district with ads, calls and mailings. More than $11 million has been spent on the race, according to the Sunlight Foundation, a nonprofit group that tracks government information.


Complete text: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20140312/DACFR78G0.html

The "dead party"?
Hey, I think you're on to something. A good name for the modern Republican Party is thusly minted:
The DOP.

 

[NightSwimmer]

Congratulations on your victory, Zam-Zam.

Elected yourselves a lobbyist, did you? Great move.

 

[Minotaur]

Lest some misguided folks think this was a slam-dunk for the Dead Party, the Lame-Enough-To-Lose-To-The-Dead-Party Party had high hopes:

While Republicans held the congressional seat for four decades until Young's death last year, the district's voters favored Obama in the 2008 and 2012 presidential elections. The district is 37 percent Republican, 35 percent Democrat and 24 percent independent.

Sink outspent Jolly by more than 3 to 1 on television advertising, though outside groups aligned with the GOP helped narrow the overall Democratic advantage.

And this:

Clinton recorded a phone call last week seeking local volunteers to help with Sink's campaign, and a half dozen House Democrats emailed fundraising appeals to their own supporters on her behalf. More than a third of Jolly's campaign contributions came from members of Congress.

In the end, it didn't matter.



The Lame-Enough-To-Lose-To-The-Dead-Party Party will now downplay the results. Only yesterday, however, this was a big deal to them.

The shocker would have been if Sink won but then again, that lines up with the demographics. There is nothing surprising about the outcome.

 

[SW48]

This isn't what I said at all. I said by county.

This map shows by county.

Obviously we can all make stats look how we want. But the majority of territory in the country is still red. Just the big cities are blue.

 

[Boca]

, (Gore won the popular vote by a million votes, too.)

Not quite...he won the popular vote by about 500,000....750,000 of which came from Chicago....

 

[Zam-Zam]

The Lame-Enough-To-Lose-To-The-Dead-Party Party will now downplay the results. Only yesterday, however, this was a big deal to them.


Viola! I state that, and a few folks can't wait to prove me correct. Thanks for the validation.

 

[zzigzzag]

The Lame-Enough-To-Lose-To-The-Dead-Party Party will now downplay the results. Only yesterday, however, this was a big deal to them.


Viola! I state that, and a few folks can't wait to prove me correct. Thanks for the validation.

You being unable to come up with anyone who said what your straw man did is "validation"? It validates that you're making shit up again.

 

[zzigzzag]

This isn't what I said at all. I said by county.

This map shows by county.

Obviously we can all make stats look how we want. But the majority of territory in the country is still red. Just the big cities are blue.

Shows what by county? How they vote in Presidential elections? Which party they register as? Where the least amount of voters are? How many stay home because Republican candidates suck?

 

[as seen on tv]

the best thing that could happen for republicans is for democrats to put their hands over their ears after every election loss, and chant "it doesn't matter, it's an anomaly; voters love obamacare, higher taxes, and massive deficits"

and you're right at the forefront of this denial.

 

[Zam-Zam]

A blast from the past: This analysis was offered up on January 9th:


The Race Democrats Can’t Afford to Lose

It’s rare in politics that anything other than a presidential contest is viewed as a “must win” — but the special election in Florida’s 13th District falls into that category for Democrats.


A loss in the competitive March 11 contest would almost certainly be regarded by dispassionate observers as a sign that President Barack Obama could constitute an albatross around the neck of his party’s nominees in November. And that could make it more difficult for Democratic candidates, campaign committees and interest groups to raise money and energize the grass roots.


Fundamentally, the district, left vacant by the death of longtime Republican Rep. C.W. Bill Young, looks competitive but has a slight Democratic tinge. Barack Obama carried it 52 percent to 48 percent in 2008, but he had a more narrow victory four years later, when he won 50 percent to 49 percent........

.........And Democrats are worried that the composition of the special-election electorate will make the contest more challenging for their nominee than it would be in a regularly scheduled election.


Still, all things being equal, Sink has enough advantages to produce a narrow but clear victory. So, while a victory would constitute a takeover and give her party’s talking heads an opportunity to demonize the Republicans in Congress once again, it would not be surprising.


On the other hand, since most nonpartisan handicappers and analysts have for years expected this seat to go Democratic when it became open, a Republican victory in March would likely say something about the national political environment and the inclination of district voters to send a message of dissatisfaction about the president. And that possibility should worry the White House.


The National Republican Congressional Committee would love to keep this Florida seat in the special election. The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee cannot afford to lose it. Those are two very different perspectives that reflect the relative importance of this election to the two parties.



Complete text: http://www3.blogs.rollcall.com/rothenblog/the-race-democrats-cant-afford-to-lose/

 

[Zam-Zam]

the best thing that could happen for republicans is for democrats to put their hands over their ears after every election loss, and chant "it doesn't matter, it's an anomaly; voters love obamacare, higher taxes, and massive deficits"

and you're right at the forefront of this denial.

Gee, they wouldn't do that, would they?

 

[Barbella]

A blast from the past: This analysis was offered up on January 9th:


The Race Democrats Can’t Afford to Lose

It’s rare in politics that anything other than a presidential contest is viewed as a “must win” — but the special election in Florida’s 13th District falls into that category for Democrats.

A loss in the competitive March 11 contest would almost certainly be regarded by dispassionate observers as a sign that President Barack Obama could constitute an albatross around the neck of his party’s nominees in November. And that could make it more difficult for Democratic candidates, campaign committees and interest groups to raise money and energize the grass roots.

Fundamentally, the district, left vacant by the death of longtime Republican Rep. C.W. Bill Young, looks competitive but has a slight Democratic tinge. Barack Obama carried it 52 percent to 48 percent in 2008, but he had a more narrow victory four years later, when he won 50 percent to 49 percent........

.........And Democrats are worried that the composition of the special-election electorate will make the contest more challenging for their nominee than it would be in a regularly scheduled election.

Still, all things being equal, Sink has enough advantages to produce a narrow but clear victory. So, while a victory would constitute a takeover and give her party’s talking heads an opportunity to demonize the Republicans in Congress once again, it would not be surprising.

On the other hand, since most nonpartisan handicappers and analysts have for years expected this seat to go Democratic when it became open, a Republican victory in March would likely say something about the national political environment and the inclination of district voters to send a message of dissatisfaction about the president. And that possibility should worry the White House.

The National Republican Congressional Committee would love to keep this Florida seat in the special election. The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee cannot afford to lose it. Those are two very different perspectives that reflect the relative importance of this election to the two parties.



Complete text: http://www3.blogs.rollcall.com/rothenblog/the-race-democrats-cant-afford-to-lose/

Ouch! That hurts....

Not me, but others must be cringing when they read this....

 

[trapdoor]

If only land mass could vote. 27 states went blue. The ones with all of the people in them. Not just the "big cities". A bazillion acres went red. Obama took every swing state. That was the determining factor.

So you're right about the visual. It "looks" red. But a landslide victory indicated that we came closer together....not farther "divided". The reds just scream and cry so much when they lose that one would think there are more of them, (Gore won the popular vote by a million votes, too.)

It's a very different map if you look at it by precinct, like this. There the urban/rural divide becomes much more stark. Source for map: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2012/