Divisiveness

[Jen]

I've been watching the unfolding Zimmerman/ Trayvon story on television. I'm convinced that it was just a horrible series of events that led to a terrible outcome. I don't know the people involved, but both of them seem to have been decent people.

One observation I feel I must make is that if the dead "child" Trayvon had been white, and the incident received all of this attention, President Obama, Fredericka Wilson, Maxine Waters, Spike Lee, the hooded Congressman, and others............would have been standing up for Zimmerman. Zimmerman is being called "white" to make this about blacks being bullied and killed by white people. He wouldn't be classified as "white" in most cases.

I have to ask this question: WHY are Democrats trying to pit black against white? Don't they realize how much that hurts this country? Don't they care? It's not a case of bringing up things that already happen. The Zimmerman/ Trayvon thing is totally contrived. Totally. Why are Democrats trying to do this to our country? I feel terrible about that.

 

[Citizen]

I've been watching the unfolding Zimmerman/ Trayvon story on television. I'm convinced that it was just a horrible series of events that led to a terrible outcome. I don't know the people involved, but both of them seem to have been decent people.

One observation I feel I must make is that if the dead "child" Trayvon had been white, and the incident received all of this attention, President Obama, Fredericka Wilson, Maxine Waters, Spike Lee, the hooded Congressman, and others............would have been standing up for Zimmerman. Zimmerman is being called "white" to make this about blacks being bullied and killed by white people. He wouldn't be classified as "white" in most cases.

I have to ask this question: WHY are Democrats trying to pit black against white? Don't they realize how much that hurts this country? Don't they care? It's not a case of bringing up things that already happen. The Zimmerman/ Trayvon thing is totally contrived. Totally. Why are Democrats trying to do this to our country? I feel terrible about that.

It's actually the republicans that are trying to pit white against black, with statements such as this:


One observation I feel I must make is that if the dead "child" Trayvon had been white, and the incident received all of this attention, President Obama, Fredericka Wilson, Maxine Waters, Spike Lee, the hooded Congressman, and others............would have been standing up for Zimmerman. Zimmerman is being called "white" to make this about blacks being bullied and killed by white people. He wouldn't be classified as "white" in most cases

 

[JuliefromOhio]

It's actually the republicans that are trying to pit white against black, with statements such as this:


One observation I feel I must make is that if the dead "child" Trayvon had been white, and the incident received all of this attention, President Obama, Fredericka Wilson, Maxine Waters, Spike Lee, the hooded Congressman, and others............would have been standing up for Zimmerman. Zimmerman is being called "white" to make this about blacks being bullied and killed by white people. He wouldn't be classified as "white" in most cases

since this is at least her 3rd post making this same preposterous claim, I'd have to call it purposeful race-baiting.

 

[Jen]

So to show how Democrats are being divisive by naming Democrats who have made divisive statements to the public............ I am the one that is divisive?

That is some odd logic

It's actually the republicans that are trying to pit white against black, with statements such as this:


One observation I feel I must make is that if the dead "child" Trayvon had been white, and the incident received all of this attention, President Obama, Fredericka Wilson, Maxine Waters, Spike Lee, the hooded Congressman, and others............would have been standing up for Zimmerman. Zimmerman is being called "white" to make this about blacks being bullied and killed by white people. He wouldn't be classified as "white" in most cases

 

[Woolleybugger]

uh....the stand your ground law is not something anyone on your list would support. The rest of your article is a confession IMHO. You folks want divisiveness? Vote conservative. You define yourself by who you hate. Liberal hating is your core value.

 

[ARMCX1]

What is the purpose in putting child in quotations?

 

[Lapcat]

Read about the communist stated strategies for defeating and conquering a nation. Dividing along racial lines is just ONE of their tactics.

Divide and conquer, in other words.

And it's working beautifully.

I've been watching the unfolding Zimmerman/ Trayvon story on television. I'm convinced that it was just a horrible series of events that led to a terrible outcome. I don't know the people involved, but both of them seem to have been decent people.

One observation I feel I must make is that if the dead "child" Trayvon had been white, and the incident received all of this attention, President Obama, Fredericka Wilson, Maxine Waters, Spike Lee, the hooded Congressman, and others............would have been standing up for Zimmerman. Zimmerman is being called "white" to make this about blacks being bullied and killed by white people. He wouldn't be classified as "white" in most cases.

I have to ask this question: WHY are Democrats trying to pit black against white? Don't they realize how much that hurts this country? Don't they care? It's not a case of bringing up things that already happen. The Zimmerman/ Trayvon thing is totally contrived. Totally. Why are Democrats trying to do this to our country? I feel terrible about that.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

I've been watching the unfolding Zimmerman/ Trayvon story on television. I'm convinced that it was just a horrible series of events that led to a terrible outcome. I don't know the people involved, but both of them seem to have been decent people.

One observation I feel I must make is that if the dead "child" Trayvon had been white, and the incident received all of this attention, President Obama, Fredericka Wilson, Maxine Waters, Spike Lee, the hooded Congressman, and others............would have been standing up for Zimmerman. Zimmerman is being called "white" to make this about blacks being bullied and killed by white people. He wouldn't be classified as "white" in most cases.

I have to ask this question: WHY are Democrats trying to pit black against white? Don't they realize how much that hurts this country? Don't they care? It's not a case of bringing up things that already happen. The Zimmerman/ Trayvon thing is totally contrived. Totally. Why are Democrats trying to do this to our country? I feel terrible about that.

Yah, it's well know that Dems always applaud when white kids get shot with guns.

Good point.

:eyebrows:

 

[Lapcat]

My guess is.....because most people consider males to be...... if not men at 17....certainly not children.

During war time....my dad, his four brothers, and most American "men" joined the military at that age and younger.....no questions asked. Trayvon was not a child and he sure as hell wasn't "little".

What is the purpose in putting child in quotations?

 

[Lapcat]

Not only that....but merely by 'disussing' the issue.....according to the resident PJ leftie idiots.....you are no doubt also ""rejoicing"" in that divisiveness....lol.

So to show how Democrats are being divisive by naming Democrats who have made divisive statements to the public............ I am the one that is divisive?

That is some odd logic

 

[ARMCX1]

17 is legally a minor. Most of the press reports I've seen describe Trayvon as a teenager. The top poster chose to shift emphasis, incorrectly to age in a post about divisiveness.

 

[gigi]

So to show how Democrats are being divisive by naming Democrats who have made divisive statements to the public............ I am the one that is divisive?

That is some odd logic

Don't take the bait there, Jen.

Regarding what you said in your top post.....I don't think it's the average democrat that is divisive. There's a faction way further left than that that has always and will always push through agendas by pitting groups against each other. Usually it's becausethey're trying to sneak something by that we'd never go for if we stopped and thought about it, and so they therefore need us to A)be distracted and B)become confused about what we're fighting for or against. Lapcat is dead on. If you read the strategies behind communism, you can't miss how it's being attempted here. Even radicals like Nathanson and Ayers who had their own agendas have admitted to using these tactics.

As for Obama. I'd never been called a racist in my life until I expressed a negative opinion about then Senator Obama as presidential candidate. And this by the same people that will tell you that black women have more abortions because they choose to spend more of their free time engaging in unprotected sex.
In the end, the things we were called racists for suspecting Obama of wanting to do are things he's actually trying to do, and the people who called us nuts and racists are applauding it all. But when there was a use for pitting whites against blacks just to shut people up, they did it.

 

[Charcat]

Good post, gigi. I also don't think the PJ left wingers believe half the stuff they spout, but just do so to be divisive--which actually demonstrates what you said. As they have no meaningful arguments and cannot legitimately defend Obama, they can do nothing else. Being called a racist by a PJ leftie is almost a compliment--meaning they know you have figured it out.

 

[Arkady]

It's not about trying to pit blacks against whites. It's about trying to make sure there isn't a miscarriage of justice because of victim was black. One doesn't need much knowledge of history to realize there is a long and dark history of crimes against blacks (and against white civil rights workers who try to help blacks) going unpunished in the south. Against that kind of historical backdrop, when an unarmed black kid is killed by an armed non-black, and local officials don't even arrest the shooter, don't you think it makes sense that black civil rights figures would become concerned that this is yet another example of that kind of miscarriage of justice? Don't you think it makes sense that they'd want to bring a national spotlight to the case, so that if there are grounds for charges, charges actually get brought? I mean, even if you think the south has almost entirely outgrown its evil history of unpunished vigilante killings of blacks who step out of line, the "almost" in that sentiment matters. It doesn't seem like a terrible stretch to imagine there are still pockets of anti-black prejudice strong enough to result in someone not being charged who should be, and so of course national black civil rights leaders would want to make sure extra scrutiny is brought to those kinds of suspicious circumstances.

Picture the shoe being on the other foot. Since I assume you're white, it may be hard to picture yourself subject to the kinds of prejudice minorities face. So, try to picture yourself in the situation of being a minority. For example, picture you're living in some other country where Americans aren't very popular. Let's say you're working in some Middle Eastern country, for example. And picture your kid goes out to the store and never makes it home, because (despite being unarmed) a local shoots and kills him. And picture that, weeks later, no charges have been brought, and you suspect that because your kid's an American, the local authorities aren't terribly enthused about the idea of holding his killer accountable. Wouldn't you want the State Department or some other group that looks out for Americans to bring extra attention to the case, so that if there was enough evidence to justify the bringing of charges, it would actually happen? Wouldn't you want a big spotlight on the case, so people would be shamed into doing the right thing?

 

[LeRoy_Was_Here]

You are just entirely too reasonable, Arkady. For Political Jack, at least.

 

[Citizen]

So to show how Democrats are being divisive by naming Democrats who have made divisive statements to the public............ I am the one that is divisive?

That is some odd logic

So to show how republicans are being divisive by naming republicans who have made divisive statements to the public............ I am the one that is divisive?

 

[Jen]

The average Democrat is probably not divisive. But Democratic politicians are using situations to divide us and many average Democrats are taking their bait and doing their bidding to divide us all. It saddens me to see that sort of thing used. But I expect it to get worse as more Democrats fall in line with their leaders.

Don't take the bait there, Jen.

Regarding what you said in your top post.....I don't think it's the average democrat that is divisive. There's a faction way further left than that that has always and will always push through agendas by pitting groups against each other. Usually it's becausethey're trying to sneak something by that we'd never go for if we stopped and thought about it, and so they therefore need us to A)be distracted and B)become confused about what we're fighting for or against. Lapcat is dead on. If you read the strategies behind communism, you can't miss how it's being attempted here. Even radicals like Nathanson and Ayers who had their own agendas have admitted to using these tactics.

As for Obama. I'd never been called a racist in my life until I expressed a negative opinion about then Senator Obama as presidential candidate. And this by the same people that will tell you that black women have more abortions because they choose to spend more of their free time engaging in unprotected sex.
In the end, the things we were called racists for suspecting Obama of wanting to do are things he's actually trying to do, and the people who called us nuts and racists are applauding it all. But when there was a use for pitting whites against blacks just to shut people up, they did it.

 

[Citizen]

The average Democrat is probably not divisive. But Democratic politicians are using situations to divide us and many average Democrats are taking their bait and doing their bidding to divide us all. It saddens me to see that sort of thing used. But I expect it to get worse as more Democrats fall in line with their leaders.

The average Republican is probably divisive. But Republican politicians are using situations to divide us and many average Republicans are taking their bait and doing their bidding to divide us all. It saddens me to see that sort of thing used. But I expect it to get worse as more republicans fall in line with their leaders.

 

[Jen]

In many reports Trayvon was called a "child" and so I was quoting those reports. Plus, he was under 18........ so technically he was a "child".

What is the purpose in putting child in quotations?

 

[Arkady]

I just get frustrated by the unwillingness of people to try to see things from the other's perspective. I haven't been one to push this Zimmerman/Martin story, myself, but it's not hard for me to see why black civil rights figures would do so, through the best of intentions. They know there are still localized pockets of terrible racism in this country, and that racism flourishes best when it isn't under the harsh spotlight of national attention. So of course they'd want to bring national attention to a case when it looks like a likely candidate for that kind of prejudice. The fact is an unarmed child was shot dead by an adult and no charges were brought for weeks, until AFTER the civil rights community made it a national story.