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Does RBG’s death doom the ACA?

Bugsy McGurk

Bugsy McGurk

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As if RBG’s death wasn’t sad enough for sane people, her death greatly increases the odds that the ACA will be struck down in the Trump-supported case, now at the SCOTUS, brought by those who want their hack judges to engage in extreme “judicial legislating.”

And if the ACA falls, so does its protections for pre-existing conditions. With 20 million people losing their health insurance. In the middle of our Covid catastrophe brought on by Trump’s horrendous lying and buffoonery.

The nightmarish Trump/GOP horror show gets worse by the day, leading their cultists to chant “Four more years!”

 
Let's hope so.

Unless you were part of the Medicaid expansion Obamacare has been an unmitigated disaster for the country. The only thing worth keeping is no pre-conditions, it would already be gone if not for a bunch of Democrats trying to save the legacy of a miserably failed President Obama.
 
Bugsy McGurk said:
As if RBG’s death wasn’t sad enough for sane people, her death greatly increases the odds that the ACA will be struck down in the Trump-supported case, now at the SCOTUS, brought by those who want their hack judges to engage in extreme “judicial legislating.”

And if the ACA falls, so does its protections for pre-existing conditions. With 20 million people losing their health insurance. In the middle of our Covid catastrophe brought on by Trump’s horrendous lying and buffoonery.

The nightmarish Trump/GOP horror show gets worse by the day, leading their cultists to chant “Four more years!”

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Bugsy McGurk said:
As if RBG’s death wasn’t sad enough for sane people, her death greatly increases the odds that the ACA will be struck down in the Trump-supported case, now at the SCOTUS, brought by those who want their hack judges to engage in extreme “judicial legislating.”

And if the ACA falls, so does its protections for pre-existing conditions. With 20 million people losing their health insurance. In the middle of our Covid catastrophe brought on by Trump’s horrendous lying and buffoonery.

The nightmarish Trump/GOP horror show gets worse by the day, leading their cultists to chant “Four more years!”

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Use your head....
It is not possible to get rid of the ACA. That's why it was such an evil introduction to the system in the first place. Once it was in place it very quickly developed a huge network of dependency that numbers in the tens of millions.... Maybe more.
It doesn't matter what SCOTUS, CONGRESS or God does to oppose it.... It is presently indestructible and will only go away when the United States becomes history.... We're stuck with the [Unwelcome language removed] thing.

Jo
 
Sickofleft said:
Let's hope so.

Unless you were part of the Medicaid expansion Obamacare has been an unmitigated disaster for the country. The only thing worth keeping is no pre-conditions, it would already be gone if not for a bunch of Democrats trying to save the legacy of a miserably failed President Obama.
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What’s your plan for preserving the pre-existing conditions protections?
 
justoffal said:
Use your head....
It is not possible to get rid of the ACA. That's why it was such an evil introduction to the system in the first place. Once it was in place it very quickly developed a huge network of dependency that numbers in the tens of millions.... Maybe more.
It doesn't matter what SCOTUS, CONGRESS or God does to oppose it.... It is presently indestructible and will only go away when the United States becomes history.... We're stuck with the [Unwelcome language removed] thing.

Jo
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Ridiculous. We came one vote away (McCain’s) from losing it, and this latest winger judicial attack could well succeed. You just wave away the issue by pretending it’s etched in stone.
 
Bugsy McGurk said:
Ridiculous. We came one vote away (McCain’s) from losing it, and this latest winger judicial attack could well succeed. You just wave away the issue by pretending it’s etched in stone.
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You cannot lose it..... you can lose the name but the system is indestructible....it's stupid for the GOP even to fight it....it is now the inoperable tumor that cannot be removed without killing the patient....trust me....I'm not happy about it but I'm also not clueless as to how deep this thing is rooted. Any action by anyone including SCOTUS will be ineffective....at most it will simply change names and morph right back into existence through numerous other programs. It's permanent.

When Joe Biden said " This is a big fuxcking deal" his words were more prophetic than he realized.

JO
 
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justoffal said:
Use your head....
It is not possible to get rid of the ACA. That's why it was such an evil introduction to the system in the first place. Once it was in place it very quickly developed a huge network of dependency that numbers in the tens of millions.... Maybe more.
It doesn't matter what SCOTUS, CONGRESS or God does to oppose it.... It is presently indestructible and will only go away when the United States becomes history.... We're stuck with the [Unwelcome language removed] thing.

Jo
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Ah yes, It's totally evil to offer people health insurance. it's right there in the bible.
 
justoffal said:
You cannot lose it..... you can lose the name but the system is indestructible....it's stupid for the GOP even to fight it....it is now the inoperable tumor that cannot be removed without killing the patient....trust me....I'm not happy about it but I'm also not clueless as to how deep this thing is rooted. Any action by anyone including SCOTUS will be ineffective....at most it will simply change names and morph right back into existence through numerous other programs. It's permanent.

When Joe Biden said " This is a big fuxcking deal" his words were more prophetic than he realized.

JO
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Now you’re straying into pointless vagueness. The ACA will be struck down but be replaced with something “similar”? Doubtful, but too subjective to merit discussion.
 
Bugsy McGurk said:
Now you’re straying into pointless vagueness. The ACA will be struck down but be replaced with something “similar”? Doubtful, but too subjective to merit discussion.
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Nope not replaced.....it cannot be taken out of the system...doesn't matter who tries to take it out it has very quickly arisen to the status of imprinted social habitude....it took off like a rocket because it very closely parallels the frail human tendency to degenerate not to progress. It was like finding a lost puzzle piece and then putting super glue on it.

JO
 
Bugsy McGurk said:
What’s your plan for preserving the pre-existing conditions protections?
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That is the easy part, you pass a law that makes it illegal for Insurance companies to deny coverage based on pre-existing conditions.

The hard part is what goes with that, that actually lowers the cost of healthcare, instead of having premiums so high you can't use it, which in several parts of the country is what the ACA caused.
 
Bugsy McGurk said:
Just more vague ideological claptrap.

Bottom line - the ACA could obviously be invalidated. Right wingers work endlessly to achieve that goal. What would replace it, if anything, is a total unknown.
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You waste your energy worrying about stupidity.
the pattern of dependency created by the ACA will never be legislated away anymore than social security will be. There's nothing vague about that it is million observation of the irrevocable nature of human patterned thinking and social behavior. I'm pretty sure the creators of the ACA understood this before they unleashed that horrible thing upon the American public.
 
Sickofleft said:
That is the easy part, you pass a law that makes it illegal for Insurance companies to deny coverage based on pre-existing conditions.

The hard part is what goes with that, that actually lowers the cost of healthcare, instead of having premiums so high you can't use it, which in several parts of the country is what the ACA caused.
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It’s easy? Two questions...

1. Could people wait until they got sick and then buy health insurance, knowing that the insurer must cover the pre-existing condition?

2. Would insurers be free to terminate (or not renew) the policies of people who are sick?
 
justoffal said:
You waste your energy worrying about stupidity.
the pattern of dependency created by the ACA will never be legislated away anymore than social security will be. There's nothing vague about that it is million observation of the irrevocable nature of human patterned thinking and social behavior. I'm pretty sure the creators of the ACA understood this before they unleashed that horrible thing upon the American public.
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Blah, blah, blah...let me know when you have a better plan.
 
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