Downsizing vs illegal purge and replacement

[middleview]

Trump has claimed he is streamlining and downsizing the government and yet his spokeswoman has actually blurted out the intent to fire and replace people with Trump loyalists.

Anyone who has participated in an organized effort to streamline a large organization knows that what is normally done is that managers of departments are given the leeway to decide which of their employees are productive and which are best cut without impacting the mission of the department. The idea of a mass purge does not leave room to keep the best and brightest.

Sadly, Trump's people have taken down the department websites and then make outrageous claims about $100 million spent on condoms for Gaza, but we have no way to actually check him on that.

If every single CIA agent, analyst, engineer and computer programmer or support person is purged...can anyone really think that Trump's project 2025 plan can replace them with any degree of relevant skills? Of course not, but they can certainly find people willing to bow down to Trump.

Firing the Inspectors General should have alarmed everyone. Now there is no oversight at the Pentagon, Department of State, Veterans Affairs and other government departments. Trump is required to give congress 30 days notice. Did he do that? No.

 

[middleview]

Trump has claimed he is streamlining and downsizing the government and yet his spokeswoman has actually blurted out the intent to fire and replace people with Trump loyalists.

Anyone who has participated in an organized effort to streamline a large organization knows that what is normally done is that managers of departments are given the leeway to decide which of their employees are productive and which are best cut without impacting the mission of the department. The idea of a mass purge does not leave room to keep the best and brightest.

Sadly, Trump's people have taken down the department websites and then make outrageous claims about $100 million spent on condoms for Gaza, but we have no way to actually check him on that.

If every single CIA agent, analyst, engineer and computer programmer or support person is purged...can anyone really think that Trump's project 2025 plan can replace them with any degree of relevant skills? Of course not, but they can certainly find people willing to bow down to Trump.

Firing the Inspectors General should have alarmed everyone. Now there is no oversight at the Pentagon, Department of State, Veterans Affairs and other government departments. Trump is required to give congress 30 days notice. Did he do that? No.

For anyone who actually believed Trump's claim of a deep state....how does Musk and his band of Musketeers work for you? If Trump replaces 50,000 federal employees with more loyal Trump supporters fit in?

 

[reason10]

Trump has claimed he is streamlining and downsizing the government and yet his spokeswoman has actually blurted out the intent to fire and replace people with Trump loyalists.

Anyone who has participated in an organized effort to streamline a large organization knows that what is normally done is that managers of departments are given the leeway to decide which of their employees are productive and which are best cut without impacting the mission of the department. The idea of a mass purge does not leave room to keep the best and brightest.

Sadly, Trump's people have taken down the department websites and then make outrageous claims about $100 million spent on condoms for Gaza, but we have no way to actually check him on that.

If every single CIA agent, analyst, engineer and computer programmer or support person is purged...can anyone really think that Trump's project 2025 plan can replace them with any degree of relevant skills? Of course not, but they can certainly find people willing to bow down to Trump.

Firing the Inspectors General should have alarmed everyone. Now there is no oversight at the Pentagon, Department of State, Veterans Affairs and other government departments. Trump is required to give congress 30 days notice. Did he do that? No.

But it didn't bother you when Biden fired all those soldiers because they wouldn't take the Covid jab. It didn't bother you when Biden fired all those workers on the Keystone Pipeline .

To use a Biden phrase for the useless bureaucrats who got canned, LEARN TO CODE.

 

[reason10]

For anyone who actually believed Trump's claim of a deep state....how does Musk and his band of Musketeers work for you? If Trump replaces 50,000 federal employees with more loyal Trump supporters fit in?

Where are you getting the "illegality" of the firings? Can you produce a link from the U.S. Code showing where firing government employees is illegal?

 

[middleview]

But it didn't bother you when Biden fired all those soldiers because they wouldn't take the Covid jab. It didn't bother you when Biden fired all those workers on the Keystone Pipeline .

To use a Biden phrase for the useless bureaucrats who got canned, LEARN TO CODE.

1. I was in the military and was required to get a dozen or so vaccinations....refusing to do so was actually a military discipline problem...you don't get to refuse an order without any kind of disciplinary problem. They were allowed to resign, instead of courts martial.
2. Biden didn't fire anyone on the pipeline. The construction was on hold due to 60 or so eminent domain lawsuits. People didn't want the pipeline across their farms.

 

[reason10]

1. I was in the military and was required to get a dozen or so vaccinations....refusing to do so was actually a military discipline problem...you don't get to refuse an order without any kind of disciplinary problem. They were allowed to resign, instead of courts martial.

The Covid vax was different. It was political. And it since then has proved to be harmful.

2. Biden didn't fire anyone on the pipeline. The construction was on hold due to 60 or so eminent domain lawsuits. People didn't want the pipeline across their farms.

He shut the pipeline down. Workers lost their jobs. His answer to him was LEARN TO CODE.

Biden admin quietly admits canceling Keystone XL Pipeline cost thousands of jobs, billions of dollars

The Department of Energy issued a congressionally mandated report late last month highlighting the positive economic benefits the Keystone XL project would have had.

www.foxnews.com

But immediately after taking office in January 2021, Biden canceled the pipeline's permits, effectively shutting the project down.

"The Biden administration finally owned up to what we have known all along — killing the Keystone XL Pipeline cost good-paying jobs, hurt Montana’s economy and was the first step in the Biden administration’s war on oil and gas production in the United States," Sen. Steve Daines. R-Mont., said Thursday in a statement. "Unfortunately, the administration continues to pursue energy production anywhere but the United States."

 

[middleview]

But immediately after taking office in January 2021, Biden canceled the pipeline's permits, effectively shutting the project down.

"The Biden administration finally owned up to what we have known all along — killing the Keystone XL Pipeline cost good-paying jobs, hurt Montana’s economy and was the first step in the Biden administration’s war on oil and gas production in the United States," Sen. Steve Daines. R-Mont., said Thursday in a statement. "Unfortunately, the administration continues to pursue energy production anywhere but the United States."

The pipeline was on hold because of the Eminent Domain lawsuits. Do you blame the farmers who did not want the pipeline on their land? The temporary hold on lease auctions was for public land only. Most production is on private lands. Oil production was cut by about 30% while Trump was president. We currently produce more oil than ever before.

1. I was in the military and was required to get a dozen or so vaccinations....refusing to do so was actually a military discipline problem...you don't get to refuse an order without any kind of disciplinary problem. They were allowed to resign, instead of courts martial.

The Covid vax was different. It was political. And it since then has proved to be harmful.

I have a friend who was paralyzed by Guillaine Barre syndrome from his vaccinations while in boot camp. There is risk with all vaccines. There was a much higher risk of the pandemic impacting our troops as is what happened in 1918 during the Spanish Flu.

 

[Dawg]

For anyone who actually believed Trump's claim of a deep state....how does Musk and his band of Musketeers work for you? If Trump replaces 50,000 federal employees with more loyal Trump supporters fit in?

Did you cry like this when Slick did as Donnie is doing
Chieftain again noted Clinton's firing of U.S. attorneys, but not rarity of dismissals in middle of a presidency | Media Matters for America

not bloody likely
eh, remember Slick also fired the FBI director

 

[Raoul_Luke]

LOL! We're talking about the federal government here...none of them are "productive." They all need to go.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

For anyone who actually believed Trump's claim of a deep state....how does Musk and his band of Musketeers work for you? If Trump replaces 50,000 federal employees with more loyal Trump supporters fit in?

They are reducing the size and scope of the federal bureaucracy. With $36 trillion in debt, anyone who opposes that has sh*t for brains.

 

[middleview]

Where are you getting the "illegality" of the firings? Can you produce a link from the U.S. Code showing where firing government employees is illegal?

The requirement for Inspectors General is to give congress 30 days notice.
The removal procedure for presidentially appointed inspectors general is found in Section 3(b) of the IG Act (5 U.S.C. Appendix, as amended)

An Inspector General may be removed from office by the President. If an Inspector General is removed from office or is transferred to another position or location within an establishment, the President shall communicate in writing the reasons for any such removal or transfer to both Houses of Congress, not later than 30 days before the removal or transfer. Nothing in this subsection shall prohibit a personnel action otherwise authorized by law, other than transfer or removal.
Removal of Inspectors General: Rules, Practice, and Considerations for Congress

 

[middleview]

They are reducing the size and scope of the federal bureaucracy. With $36 trillion in debt, anyone who opposes that has sh*t for brains.

Anyone who believes Musk and his Muskholes are capable of an object evaluation of the value of government systems is simply nuts. Are there places to cut? Yes. So why did Trump fire 17 Inspectors General who would provide oversight?

 

[middleview]

LOL! We're talking about the federal government here...none of them are "productive." They all need to go.

None? Now NOAA is the latest target...as is NWS. So much for weather reports.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

None? Now NOAA is the latest target...as is NWS. So much for weather reports.

I can't wait to see how their funding was perverted by the leftist bureaucrats. That agency is propagandizing "climate change" and needs to be shut down. There are private weather services. Here is a damn good one:

Home Page

Advanced weather forecasting and monitoring solutions for businesses.

bamwx.com

 

[Raoul_Luke]

Anyone who believes Musk and his Muskholes are capable of an object evaluation of the value of government systems is simply nuts. Are there places to cut? Yes. So why did Trump fire 17 Inspectors General who would provide oversight?

Because that isn't what they were doing.

 

[middleview]

I can't wait to see how their funding was perverted by the leftist bureaucrats. That agency is propagandizing "climate change" and needs to be shut down. There are private weather services. Here is a damn good one:

Home Page

Advanced weather forecasting and monitoring solutions for businesses.

bamwx.com

BAMWX has 25 employees. Where do you think they get their data? From NWS.

 

[Drumcollie]

Trump has claimed he is streamlining and downsizing the government and yet his spokeswoman has actually blurted out the intent to fire and replace people with Trump loyalists.

Anyone who has participated in an organized effort to streamline a large organization knows that what is normally done is that managers of departments are given the leeway to decide which of their employees are productive and which are best cut without impacting the mission of the department. The idea of a mass purge does not leave room to keep the best and brightest.

Sadly, Trump's people have taken down the department websites and then make outrageous claims about $100 million spent on condoms for Gaza, but we have no way to actually check him on that.

If every single CIA agent, analyst, engineer and computer programmer or support person is purged...can anyone really think that Trump's project 2025 plan can replace them with any degree of relevant skills? Of course not, but they can certainly find people willing to bow down to Trump.

Firing the Inspectors General should have alarmed everyone. Now there is no oversight at the Pentagon, Department of State, Veterans Affairs and other government departments. Trump is required to give congress 30 days notice. Did he do that? No.

Any proof to what you say?

 

[middleview]

Any proof to what you say?

Proof of what? The requirement for dismissing an IG is easily found. Try google.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

BAMWX has 25 employees. Where do you think they get their data? From NWS.

Nope - from commercial weather modelers. Is at some point the data sourced from the NWS? Probably, but we can sell that operation off and get the feds out of the weather business altogether. Or keep a skeleton crew ("25 employees") on to operate the data collection and sell that to the modelers. I don't really care which...

 

[middleview]

Nope - from commercial weather modelers. Is at some point the data sourced from the NWS? Probably, but we can sell that operation off and get the feds out of the weather business altogether. Or keep a skeleton crew ("25 employees") on to operate the data collection and sell that to the modelers. I don't really care which...

Do you get your local weather from the TV? All local and national wearher reports come from NWS. Seems pretty productive to me.