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Drudge nailed it today

Clearly Obama is trying to take his anti-colonialist rage and channel it into the disassembly of Indo-European America by economic means. Why? Because it is white.
 
Really? No comments about how progressive liberal thinking is at odds with itself?

Upset that the 1% are getting wealthier because they don't have to pay the 99% what they are worth because they 1% flood the labor market with cheaper legal and illegal workers?
 
... the disassembly of Indo-European America by economic means.​

sounds exceedingly fascist. Substitute Germany for Indo-European America and it could be uttered by the big cheese.

Lets see. I've long said that Bush, Cheney, and Yoo should be in prison for sanctioning torture. How would somebody reconcile that stance with a claim of conscious or subconscious willful destruction of a way of existence by a set of apparently directed policies of a President who did not have dreams OF his father but rather had dreams FROM his father?

I'd take it as someone who can clearly see two presidents diligently working to destroy American values.
 
Lets see. I've long said that Bush, Cheney, and Yoo should be in prison for sanctioning torture. How would somebody reconcile that stance with a claim of conscious or subconscious willful destruction of a way of existence by a set of apparently directed policies of a President who did not have dreams OF his father but rather had dreams FROM his father?

I'd take it as someone who can clearly see two presidents diligently working to destroy American values.

This is the first I've heard of you being against torture, and I'm naturally suspicious. To say I cannot take your word for gospel would be stating the obvious.

You are worried that Obama, a communist, wants to destroy, disassemble as you put it, white America and its values. There doesn't appear to be any motive, however. Meanwhile, white America and its values change of their own accord and fully without communist interference. Hell, owning slaves used to be an American value, but it isn't any more, and massacring Native-Americans used to be a core American value simply because "nits make lice."

Now Americans, white Americans in particular, think gay people should be able to marry. It's one of their values, and communists had nothing to with it.
 
This is the first I've heard of you being against torture, and I'm naturally suspicious. To say I cannot take your word for gospel would be stating the obvious.

You are worried that Obama, a communist, wants to destroy, disassemble as you put it, white America and its values. There doesn't appear to be any motive, however. Meanwhile, white America and its values change of their own accord and fully without communist interference. Hell, owning slaves used to be an American value, but it isn't any more, and massacring Native-Americans used to be a core American value simply because "nits make lice."

Now Americans, white Americans in particular, think gay people should be able to marry. It's one of their values, and communists had nothing to with it.

I love how you stereotype how Americans loved slavery and killing Indians as a national sport and held it against Americans for illegally immigrating across America. NOW you decide stereotyping blacks and hispanic based on statistics is wrong and that Hispanic immigrants illegally sweeping across America are righteous.

Funny how progressive liberals do that.
 
I love how you stereotype how Americans loved slavery and killing Indians as a national sport and held it against Americans for illegally immigrating across America. NOW you decide stereotyping blacks and hispanic based on statistics is wrong and that Hispanic immigrants illegally sweeping across America are righteous.

Funny how progressive liberals do that.

Are you implying Americans didn't once embrace slavery and genocide as core values? I assure you we did.

Do you realize those core values were changing while communism was still an amorphous idea in Marx's head?
 
Are you implying Americans didn't once embrace slavery and genocide as core values? I assure you we did.

Are you implying blacks and hispanics are NOT inordinately violent, hyper-sexualized, and low intellectual achievers? You're ready to accept completely inclusive stereotypes of whites back then but not stereotypes of blacks/hispanics?

Do you realize those core values were changing while communism was still an amorphous idea in Marx's head?
I don't know the point you're trying to make here?
 
Are you implying blacks and hispanics are NOT inordinately violent, hyper-sexualized, and low intellectual achievers?

That's your gig, and you can choke on it for all I care.

You're ready to accept completely inclusive stereotypes of whites back then but not stereotypes of blacks/hispanics?

You are talking about American values, specifically white American values, and tearing your hair out at the realization that culture has changed so much, blindly casting about for targets to purge in your rage. You don't need to do that. White American culture has changed, is changing now, and will always change, and there is nothing you can do about it, so give your fascism a rest.

I don't know the point you're trying to make here?

You can put water out for the cat, but you make it drink.
 
That's your gig, and you can choke on it for all I care.



You are talking about American values, specifically white American values, and tearing your hair out at the thought that culture has changed so much. You don't need to do that. White American culture has changed, is changing now, and will always change, and there is nothing you can do about it, so give your fascism a rest.



You can put water out for the cat, but you make it drink.
The hypocrisy runs deep with you. Of course it could be just plain old intellectual dishonesty.
 
The hypocrisy runs deep with you. Of course it could be just plain old intellectual dishonesty.

What the hell is intellectual dishonesty? Meaningless gobbledegook. If a person chooses to be dishonest, it's obviously an intellectual endeavor.

Cut to the chase and call me a commie liar you want to see purged.
 
What the hell is intellectual dishonesty? Meaningless gobbledegook. If a person chooses to be dishonest, it's obviously an intellectual endeavor.

Cut to the chase and call me a commie liar you want to see purged.

What's with the melodrama. I'm sure you're NOT a commie now. You're obviously suffering some sort of martyr complex. ;0)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_honesty
Intellectual honesty is an applied method of problem solving, characterized by an unbiased, honest attitude, which can be demonstrated in a number of different ways, including but not limited to:

  • One's personal beliefs do not interfere with the pursuit of truth;
  • Relevant facts and information are not purposefully omitted even when such things may contradict one's hypothesis;
  • Facts are presented in an unbiased manner, and not twisted to give misleading impressions or to support one view over another;
  • References, or earlier work, are acknowledged where possible, and plagiarism is avoided.
Harvard ethicist Louis M. Guenin describes the "kernel" of intellectual honesty to be "a virtuous disposition to eschew deception when given an incentive for deception."[1]

Intentionally committed fallacies in debates and reasoning are sometimes called intellectual dishonesty.

http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?IntellectualDishonesty

Intellectual Dishonesty


What is meant when one uses this term? Some possible meanings:


When one avoids an honest, deliberate and comprehensive approach to a matter because it may introduce an adverse effect on personally and professionally held views and beliefs.
 
What the hell is intellectual dishonesty? Meaningless gobbledegook. If a person chooses to be dishonest, it's obviously an intellectual endeavor.

Cut to the chase and call me a commie liar you want to see purged.

BP,

I think you're a decent guy or at least mean to be. If you're an illegal or any of your family is I'm sorry if my opinion is hurtful. Maybe letting 20M illegals become citizens is just what the doctor ordered. As it is it is the most likely thing to happen. You should find comfort in that.

And I'm sure socialism and the loss of the second amendment is the truly Christian way to deal with an evolving humanity. If it goes wrong, ultimately that is okay. God is good and will, I hope, forgive me my ostensibly pragmatic opinions that you have found deeply offensive and hurtful. Vaya con Dios.

Yours in peace,
rez.
 
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BP,

I think you're a decent guy or at least mean to be. If you're an illegal or any of your family is I'm sorry if my opinion is hurtful. Maybe letting 20M illegals become citizens is just what the doctor ordered. As it is it is the most likely thing to happen. You should find comfort in that.

And I'm sure socialism and the loss of the second amendment is the truly Christian way to deal with an evolving humanity. If it goes wrong, ultimately that is okay. God is good and will, I hope, forgive me my ostensibly pragmatic opinions that you have found deeply offensive and hurtful. Vaya con Dios.

Yours in peace,
rez.

My English mother, just off the Queen Mary in the mid fifties and later naturalized , sent me and my half-sister to school in Mexico when we were of age to learn Spanish. I wasn't Mexican then and am not now though I did develop an appreciation for its culture and its people. My half-sister had a generally opposite experience, but at least she still speaks Spanish well.

Merry Christmas nonetheless. To your family especially.
 
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My English mother, just off the Queen Mary in the mid fifties and later naturalized , sent me and my half-sister to school in Mexico when we were of age to learn Spanish. I wasn't Mexican then and am not now though I did develop an appreciation for its culture and its people. My half-sister had a generally opposite experience, but at least she still speaks Spanish well.

Merry Christmas nonetheless. To your family especially.
I'm full blooded half spic. lol.

I was raised all over latin America (thru 4th grade) as child and half my family remains in latin America.

I see you addendumed your original reply. ;0)
 
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