Econ. 101

[Boca]

Today's lesson:

Ford Motor Co. will build a new assembly plant in Mexico and sharply increase factory output from that country, representing the latest shift of investment abroad by a Detroit auto maker following the signing of a costly new labor deal.

Unions, like the government that empowers them, are parasites that can’t restrain themselves from killing the host.

Every union victory brings the day closer to when there will be no industries left in the United States.​

 

[as seen on tv]

Ford already has 4 open factories in mexico. 20 more in other countries. and 25 in the USA. It's largest factory is in Turkey, making "Ford Transit Connect" minivans. But more than half of Ford employees worldwide work in US plants.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ford_factories

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Today's lesson:

Ford Motor Co. will build a new assembly plant in Mexico and sharply increase factory output from that country, representing the latest shift of investment abroad by a Detroit auto maker following the signing of a costly new labor deal.

Unions, like the government that empowers them, are parasites that can’t restrain themselves from killing the host.

Every union victory brings the day closer to when there will be no industries left in the United States.​

You can blame it on unions, OR be honest and blame it on the trade/taxation policies that encourage outsourcing.

Your choice.

 

[Boca]

You can blame it on unions, OR be honest and blame it on the trade/taxation policies that encourage outsourcing.

Your choice.

Trade, taxtion? Well of course...you must not have noticed the government's role.

Unions are the last straw. Manufacturers can deal with that issue, not so much goverment and it's regulations.

 

[Drumcollie]

You can blame it on unions, OR be honest and blame it on the trade/taxation policies that encourage outsourcing.

Your choice.

Either way...Democrats...so what yer point?

 

[Drumcollie]

Trade, taxtion? Well of course...you must not have noticed the government's role.

Unions are the last straw. Manufacturers can deal with that issue, not so much government and it's regulations.

manufacturers have dealt with these issues ...that is why they outsource...Democrats just don't get it.

 

[connieb]

You can blame it on unions, OR be honest and blame it on the trade/taxation policies that encourage outsourcing.

Your choice.

You mean - trade agreements like NAFTA -signed by Bill Clinton - or tax policies - like having the highest corporate income tax rate? Yeah, those things do encourage companies to manufacture abroad and recognize income in those countries rather than here in the US.

 

[Spamature]

Today's lesson:

Ford Motor Co. will build a new assembly plant in Mexico and sharply increase factory output from that country, representing the latest shift of investment abroad by a Detroit auto maker following the signing of a costly new labor deal.

Unions, like the government that empowers them, are parasites that can’t restrain themselves from killing the host.

Every union victory brings the day closer to when there will be no industries left in the United States.​

Here is a little fact for you. Since you seem to be pretty short on them.

GM workers in Mexico earn wages and benefits of 340 pesos a day ($26.40) on average, or less than $4 an hour, said Tereso Medina, head of the union for GM’s 5,000 workers in Saltillo, a city that makes one in four Mexican autos

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...h-at-mexico-plants-where-workers-get-26-a-day

Now you tell me WTF a union has to do with that genius ? Should they offer to work for half the US minimum wage ?

 

[BitterPill]

Today's lesson:

Ford Motor Co. will build a new assembly plant in Mexico and sharply increase factory output from that country, representing the latest shift of investment abroad by a Detroit auto maker following the signing of a costly new labor deal.

Unions, like the government that empowers them, are parasites that can’t restrain themselves from killing the host.

Every union victory brings the day closer to when there will be no industries left in the United States.​

There are unions in Mexico. In fact, as Middleview pointed out, Ford just switched from one union to another.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

You mean - trade agreements like NAFTA -signed by Bill Clinton - or tax policies - like having the highest corporate income tax rate? Yeah, those things do encourage companies to manufacture abroad and recognize income in those countries rather than here in the US.

A whole collection of governmental policies encourage the outsourcing of jobs. And many of them can be blamed on both D's and R's alike. But there's no point in having a rational discussion about it when the knee-jerk GOP reaction is to blame "the unions." Sure, we could have workers here making the same wages as workers in Mexico. Our governmental policies are making that close to being true all the time. I just don't think we want that.

But if you ever find yourself whining about the ever-growing wealth gap and income disparity, don't blame unions. Unions were a central reason we had a healthy middle class. The disabling of unions, and the plethora of trade and taxation policies encouraging outsourcing, are why the middle class gets more and more squeezed over time, while more and more wealth gets shifted to the wealthy.

 

[Boca]

Here is a little fact for you. Since you seem to be pretty short on them.

GM workers in Mexico earn wages and benefits of 340 pesos a day ($26.40) on average, or less than $4 an hour......

Now you tell me WTF a union has to do with that genius ?

In the context of $26 a day as opposed to $26 an hour....that's WTF unions have to do with it genius.

You don't do circular reasoning very good. For that matter straight line doesn't work for you either.

 

[Boca]

There are unions in Mexico. In fact, as Middleview pointed out, Ford just switched from one union to another.

There are unions in Mexico....so what? They're getting jobs we're losing them. Care to address that?

 

[BitterPill]

There are unions in Mexico....so what? They're getting jobs we're losing them. Care to address that?

Ford can make more money building trucks in Mexico. I suspect that is the reason it sent jobs to Mexico. If unions were the reason, then Ford wouldn't be in Mexico, would it?

 

[Boca]

Ford can make more money building trucks in Mexico. I suspect that is the reason it sent jobs to Mexico. If unions were the reason, then Ford wouldn't be in Mexico, would it?

Ford wants to stay in business. That's the reason. How that escapes you I don't know.

 

[georgephillip]

Today's lesson:

Ford Motor Co. will build a new assembly plant in Mexico and sharply increase factory output from that country, representing the latest shift of investment abroad by a Detroit auto maker following the signing of a costly new labor deal.

Unions, like the government that empowers them, are parasites that can’t restrain themselves from killing the host.

Every union victory brings the day closer to when there will be no industries left in the United States.​

Will Ford makes this problem better or worse for 99% of Mexicans?

 

[Dawg]

You can blame it on unions, OR be honest and blame it on the trade/taxation policies that encourage outsourcing.

Your choice.

NAFTA

 

[Dawg]

There are unions in Mexico. In fact, as Middleview pointed out, Ford just switched from one union to another.

"Middleview".............you really want to use him as wisdom of business............that posted here he pays his own SON $12@hour to Manage his restaurant.............LMFAO........$12@hour.............HELLo

 

[Spamature]

In the context of $26 a day as opposed to $26 an hour....that's WTF unions have to do with it genius.

You don't do circular reasoning very good. For that matter straight line doesn't work for you either.

Moving businesses so that you can pay people dirt floor peasant wages has NOTHING WHAT SO EVER to do with unions.

Even you realize it would be ILLEGAL to employ someone totaling pay and benefits at the rate of $4/hr. in the United States. Why do you hate humanity so much that you excuse this kind of behavior by greedy corporations ?

 

[Spamature]

"Middleview".............you really want to use him as wisdom of business............that posted here he pays his own SON $12@hour to Manage his restaurant.............LMFAO........$12@hour.............HELLo

This post sounds private message warning worthy to me.
https://www.politicaljack.com/threa...-personal-information-or-reach-arounds.87990/

 

[Boca]

A whole collection of governmental policies encourage the outsourcing of jobs. Unions were a central reason we had a healthy middle class....the plethora of trade and taxation policies encouraging outsourcing, are why the middle class gets more and more squeezed over time, while more and more wealth gets shifted to the wealthy.

Amen! So who's responsible for that plethora? Those who insist on the relatively higher corporate income tax rate than other developed countries? Those who refuse to acknowledge that the trillions in foreign sales are foreign sales profits that could be brought home if only they didn't want a fat share of those profits that they had nothing at all to do with in the first place. Those who, besides coming up with trade and taxation policies, generate thousands upon thousands of new regulations?

As I said before, the only way for business to offload these burdens is to either lay people off or go elsewhere. They can't rewrite the tax codes or deregulate, they have no other choices if they want to stay in business,