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Eliminate air travel, ride your brooms, instead!!

Barbella said:
Apparently, that only goes for us peons, huh? [Unwelcome language removed] hypocritical arseholes.


The elimination of air travel strikes particularly close to the homes of Sens. Kirsten Gillibrand, Cory Booker, Bernie Sanders, and Kamala Harris – all of whom extensively used air travel, including private jets – throughout the years in office.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/20...housands-on-air-travel-including-private-jets
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Figures...you guys would be unable to actually report facts. I saw nothing at all in the legislation that even mentions air travel. Add to that it is a non-binding bill. Do you know what that means?

Go read the legislation and see if you can find any reference to air travel.
 
Barbella said:
Apparently, that only goes for us peons, huh? [Unwelcome language removed] hypocritical arseholes.


The elimination of air travel strikes particularly close to the homes of Sens. Kirsten Gillibrand, Cory Booker, Bernie Sanders, and Kamala Harris – all of whom extensively used air travel, including private jets – throughout the years in office.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/20...housands-on-air-travel-including-private-jets
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Well.................of course............eliminate air travel for everyone but them.

Just like Al Gore wanted us to reduce energy in our homes while his was lit up brighter than a third world country.
 
Jen said:
Well.................of course............eliminate air travel for everyone but them.

Just like Al Gore wanted us to reduce energy in our homes while his was lit up brighter than a third world country.
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Please quote the part of the legislation where it suggests eliminating air travel. I did and it ain't there.
 
Jen said:
Well.................of course............eliminate air travel for everyone but them.

Just like Al Gore wanted us to reduce energy in our homes while his was lit up brighter than a third world country.
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Jen - let me ask you this. If you use less energy in your home - how is that bad in any way? Since we live in an enlightened state we were able to take advantage of a FREE program run by a local environmental group that provided us with 16 FREE LED light bulbs installed. As we have a very high ceiling in our living room/kitchen/diningroom area we were able to have them install them replacing the incandescent bulbs (and one that I had replaced with a Compact Florescent) which was great because it is a pain to get the bulbs into these high fixtures. Costs us somewhere between $15 and $30 in electricity per month. What is wrong with that? Personally I don't care if you want to keep your incandescent and pay more. My old 75 watt bulbs were replaced with a 7 watt LEDs that gives as much light and a nicer color.

Does this somehow bother you?
 
PNWest said:
Jen - let me ask you this. If you use less energy in your home - how is that bad in any way? Since we live in an enlightened state we were able to take advantage of a FREE program run by a local environmental group that provided us with 16 FREE LED light bulbs installed. As we have a very high ceiling in our living room/kitchen/diningroom area we were able to have them install them replacing the incandescent bulbs (and one that I had replaced with a Compact Florescent) which was great because it is a pain to get the bulbs into these high fixtures. Costs us somewhere between $15 and $30 in electricity per month. What is wrong with that? Personally I don't care if you want to keep your incandescent and pay more. My old 75 watt bulbs were replaced with a 7 watt LEDs that gives as much light and a nicer color.

Does this somehow bother you?
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I have no problem with using florescent and LED lighting. We do that here in our home.
Apparently you missed that my complaint was not about using better lighting but of the hypocrisy of those who lecture us to use less (regardless of type) while they use more.
 
Barbella said:
Apparently, that only goes for us peons, huh? [Unwelcome language removed] hypocritical arseholes.


The elimination of air travel strikes particularly close to the homes of Sens. Kirsten Gillibrand, Cory Booker, Bernie Sanders, and Kamala Harris – all of whom extensively used air travel, including private jets – throughout the years in office.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/20...housands-on-air-travel-including-private-jets
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You witches should have no problem with brooms.
 
middleview said:
Please quote the part of the legislation where it suggests eliminating air travel. I did and it ain't there.
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Ocasio Cortez resolution says so. https://reason.com/blog/2019/02/07/alexandria-ocasio-cortezs-green-new-deal
According to an overview of the resolution, this will be accomplished, in part, by "build[ing] out highspeed rail at a scale where air travel stops becoming necessary."
But don't worry.
Even Democrats thought that was stupid.
By the afternoon of Feb. 7, Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., removed the document from her website without explanation but following backlash and even ridicule over the radical plans outlined within it, including a call to "eliminate emissions from cows or air travel" — which would functionally ban the latter — and to provide “economic security for all who are unable or unwilling to work.”
 
Barbella said:
Apparently, that only goes for us peons, huh? [Unwelcome language removed] hypocritical arseholes.


The elimination of air travel strikes particularly close to the homes of Sens. Kirsten Gillibrand, Cory Booker, Bernie Sanders, and Kamala Harris – all of whom extensively used air travel, including private jets – throughout the years in office.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/20...housands-on-air-travel-including-private-jets
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An adviser to Ocasio-Cortez fact-checked Tucker Carlson over Green New Deal on his own show:

Robert Hockett, a Cornell University law professor, explained how a claim repeated in the conservative media that the deal ― which aims to render fossil fuels obsolete by 2030 ― wanted to completely replace air travel with rail travel was incorrect.

Carlson noted that the deal proposes “building out high-speed rail at a scale where air travel would stop becoming necessary.” Hockett replied it was “apparently being misunderstood, right? We are really talking about expanding optionality here, we are not talking about getting rid of anything, right?”

“We are talking about basically making it cost-effective to move into more modern forms of technology, more modern forms of production, which would then enable people actually cost-effectively to transition to that stuff,” Hockett added. “We are not talking about requiring anything or prohibiting anything. That’s sort of 1980s-style environmentalism.”
 
JuliefromOhio said:
An adviser to Ocasio-Cortez fact-checked Tucker Carlson over Green New Deal on his own show:

Robert Hockett, a Cornell University law professor, explained how a claim repeated in the conservative media that the deal ― which aims to render fossil fuels obsolete by 2030 ― wanted to completely replace air travel with rail travel was incorrect.

Carlson noted that the deal proposes “building out high-speed rail at a scale where air travel would stop becoming necessary.” Hockett replied it was “apparently being misunderstood, right? We are really talking about expanding optionality here, we are not talking about getting rid of anything, right?”

“We are talking about basically making it cost-effective to move into more modern forms of technology, more modern forms of production, which would then enable people actually cost-effectively to transition to that stuff,” Hockett added. “We are not talking about requiring anything or prohibiting anything. That’s sort of 1980s-style environmentalism.”
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Lies, distortions and half truths. Those are the only 3 weapons of conservative argument.

No one wants to ban air travel. But it sounds good to low IQ righties that believe everything they hear on Fox News. These kooks will believe anything that right wing media feeds them.
 
PNWest said:
Lies, distortions and half truths. Those are the only 3 weapons of conservative argument.

No one wants to ban air travel. But it sounds good to low IQ righties that believe everything they hear on Fox News. These kooks will believe anything that right wing media feeds them.
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They want to stay in the coal mines, let them. The rest of us will embrace a green dream future.
 
PNWest said:
Jen - let me ask you this. If you use less energy in your home - how is that bad in any way? Since we live in an enlightened state we were able to take advantage of a FREE program run by a local environmental group that provided us with 16 FREE LED light bulbs installed. As we have a very high ceiling in our living room/kitchen/diningroom area we were able to have them install them replacing the incandescent bulbs (and one that I had replaced with a Compact Florescent) which was great because it is a pain to get the bulbs into these high fixtures. Costs us somewhere between $15 and $30 in electricity per month. What is wrong with that? Personally I don't care if you want to keep your incandescent and pay more. My old 75 watt bulbs were replaced with a 7 watt LEDs that gives as much light and a nicer color.

Does this somehow bother you?
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As per your usual your light fixtures haven't a damn thing to do with that ludicrous proposal by a millennial crackhead(?) ex-bartender elected to Congress from a district of similarly ignorant residents Eliminating air travel huh? Renovating every f'kn building in the country? What else? guaranteed income, free healthcare, and so forth.

But you know all that...so why come in here a be a twit about it with your old 75 watt bulbs story that approximates your IQ. And your sniping little man crap about Jen being bothered!
 
Boca said:
As per your usual your light fixtures haven't a damn thing to do with that ludicrous proposal by a millennial crackhead(?) ex-bartender elected to Congress from a district of similarly ignorant residents Eliminating air travel huh? Renovating every f'kn building in the country? What else? guaranteed income, free healthcare, and so forth.

But you know all that...so why come in here a be a twit about it with your old 75 watt bulbs story that approximates your IQ. And your sniping little man crap about Jen being bothered!
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Is 'ums having a bad day? You seem very mad. Maybe you should seek help. But then again there ain't no cure for stupid - looks like you are stuck. Sad, so sad.
 
Jen said:
Ocasio Cortez resolution says so.
According to an overview of the resolution, this will be accomplished, in part, by "build[ing] out highspeed rail at a scale where air travel stops becoming necessary."
But don't worry.
Even Democrats thought that was stupid.
By the afternoon of Feb. 7, Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., removed the document from her website without explanation but following backlash and even ridicule over the radical plans outlined within it, including a call to "eliminate emissions from cows or air travel" — which would functionally ban the latter — and to provide “economic security for all who are unable or unwilling to work.”
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So what you have is an "overview" from right wing site and a document that OC says was uploaded to her website by a hacker and which was promptly taken down.

What I have is the text of the bill.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-resolution/109/text

There is much not to like in the bill, which is why I don't understand shitheads on the right who feel the need to lie about what is in it.
 
middleview said:
Figures...you guys would be unable to actually report facts. I saw nothing at all in the legislation that even mentions air travel. Add to that it is a non-binding bill. Do you know what that means?

Go read the legislation and see if you can find any reference to air travel.
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I see @Barbella isn't addressing your post. Cowardly Lioness. LOL
 
middleview said:
Figures...you guys would be unable to actually report facts. I saw nothing at all in the legislation that even mentions air travel. Add to that it is a non-binding bill. Do you know what that means?

Go read the legislation and see if you can find any reference to air travel.
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You'll have to wait awhile. She's waiting on her talking points from fox news.
 
JuliefromOhio said:
An adviser to Ocasio-Cortez fact-checked Tucker Carlson over Green New Deal on his own show:

Robert Hockett, a Cornell University law professor, explained how a claim repeated in the conservative media that the deal ― which aims to render fossil fuels obsolete by 2030 ― wanted to completely replace air travel with rail travel was incorrect.

Carlson noted that the deal proposes “building out high-speed rail at a scale where air travel would stop becoming necessary.” Hockett replied it was “apparently being misunderstood, right? We are really talking about expanding optionality here, we are not talking about getting rid of anything, right?”

“We are talking about basically making it cost-effective to move into more modern forms of technology, more modern forms of production, which would then enable people actually cost-effectively to transition to that stuff,” Hockett added. “We are not talking about requiring anything or prohibiting anything. That’s sort of 1980s-style environmentalism.”
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Right wingers hate logic and science.
 
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