End Dumbed down Conservatism

[TomFitz]

Bobby Jindal has become the latest star in the GOP firmament to strongly denounce the tactics that the party has been so wedded to for most of the past twenty five years.

It will be a very tall challenge, as many core conservatives almost worship this dumbed down ideology, and actively and angrily defend the race baiting, xenophobia and anti intellectualism that is at its core. But Archie Bunker is a figure from cultural history, not a representative of modern mainstream America.

Jindal joins a chorus of conservative commentators in this effort.

It is a pity that the forces of ignorace had been so successful for so long in silencing them,

“It is no secret we had a number of Republicans damage our brand this year with offensive, bizarre comments — enough of that,” Jindal said. “It’s not going to be the last time anyone says something stupid within our party, but it can’t be tolerated within our party. We’ve also had enough of this dumbed-down conservatism. We need to stop being simplistic, we need to trust the intelligence of the American people and we need to stop insulting the intelligence of the voters.”

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[Dino]

LOL...who was silencing people from saying smart things?

There's nothing "dumb" about conservatism, nor is Jindal saying anything revolutionary. Politicians act as though they need to use high-brow strategies and tactics after a defeat. They appeal to the publics egos and brains.

But in the end, what's going to work? Slick tricks, ads, and dirty campaigning, dumbing down just about any topic to lure in voters with scare tactics.

 

[NightSwimmer]

I'd have more respect for his position had he spoken up before they lost the election.

 

[NightSwimmer]

LOL...who was silencing people from saying smart things?

There's nothing "dumb" about conservatism, nor is Jindal saying anything revolutionary. Politicians act as though they need to use high-brow strategies and tactics after a defeat. They appeal to the publics egos and brains.

But in the end, what's going to work? Slick tricks, ads, and dirty campaigning, dumbing down just about any topic to lure in voters with scare tactics.

Your mistake was in assuming that just because it worked for the past few decades meant that it would work forever.

 

[Dino]

What would work?

The GOP has't run a conservative for President since W. And that's using a wide definition.

 

[GordonGecko]

Dino, who WAS the last conservative the GOP ran for President???

 

[Dino]

The GOP has't run a conservative for President since W. And that's using a wide definition.

 

[OldGaffer]

The last fiscal conservative Republican was Eisenhower.All the ones since have ballooned the deficit like drunken sailors, and that is a fact beyond dispute.

 

[GordonGecko]

The GOP has't run a conservative for President since W. And that's using a wide definition.

Use YOUR definition, Dino...who was the last "real" conservative the GOP ran for President???

 

[Dino]

Eisenhower was last true conservative to serve as a GOP president.

 

[bdtex]

"...we need to trust the intelligence of the American people and we need to stop insulting the intelligence of the voters.”

Jindal needs to spend an entire week listening to Limbaugh,Hannity,Savage and Levin and pay particular attention to the listeners who call in to those shows.

 

[GordonGecko]

What Jindhal may "subtlely" be saying is...."We gotta stop with the 'You can cut taxes, provide no details on spending cuts, claim you'll still balance the budget...and expect people to buy it.' stuff."

Or he's talking about cutting out the "If Dems win, they'll ban guns and God and make your church hold gay weddings" crap.

Either way....he's bucking 90% of the material that Rightwing Media uses every day.

 

[NightSwimmer]

What Jindhal may "subtlely" be saying is...."We gotta stop with the 'You can cut taxes, provide no details on spending cuts, claim you'll still balance the budget...and expect people to buy it.' stuff."

Or he's talking about cutting out the "If Dems win, they'll ban guns and God and make your church hold gay weddings" crap.

Either way....he's bucking 90% of the material that Rightwing Media uses every day.

Scratch little Bobby from the list of future Republican leaders...

 

[TomFitz]

But in the end, what's going to work? Slick tricks, ads, and dirty campaigning, dumbing down just about any topic to lure in voters with scare tactics.

I realize that you respond quite strongly to these tactics. I read your posts. And you have consistantly defended the ridiculous, malicious and ignorant.

But it has won the GOP exactly one election.

 

[GordonGecko]

Scratch little Bobby from the list of future Republican leaders...

I don't think somebody "like Jindhal" would ever win the GOP Nomination....the Right may TALK about him a lot....like they did Alan Keyes or Herman Cain....but they'd never vote for him. For exactly the same reason.

 

[TomFitz]

Really?

Eisenhower, huh?

The guy who created the Department of health and Human Services, expanded the Department of Education, and added disability benefits to Social Security?
'
That conservative?

How about the one who launched the largest infrastructure project in human history?

We all know that today's Republicans do not support infrastructure investment. We have their voting records.

 

[Dino]

But it's won your guys the past two presidential elections, so the record is still very strong.

 

[jammer]

Jindal is just in a "cover our conservative asses" mode and is trying to say that, although most republicons think and feel the way Akins, Muordock, Palin, Angle, and others do, they can't win if they are allowed to say so in public. He is just trying to hide the fact that while he, Mike Steele, and Herman Kain might be sort of excepted in the republicon party, they are still just tokens. Mitt's "47%" speech was a light shown on what the republicon party really thiks about most Americans.

 

[jammer]

The last fiscal conservative Republican was Eisenhower.All the ones since have ballooned the deficit like drunken sailors, and that is a fact beyond dispute.

Come on OG, Goldwater was a true fiscal conservative, he loved wars and would have started several if elected. 'Nam would be a crater hole now if Barry had had his way.

 

[LeRoy_Was_Here]

Eisenhower was last true conservative to serve as a GOP president.

Most of your fellow Republicans today think that Eisenhower feller was a goddam Commienist, spendin' money like crazy on interstate highways and such.

The Eisenhower Republicans are extinct. The Smithsonian Museum is going to have an exhibit on Eisenhower Republicans in their Paleontology wing.