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Europe’s BOLD NEW PLAN to stop Islamic terrorism!

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(No link – but I saw this on Fox News this morning. It’s genuine, not a satire. Google it if you don’t believe me)

(Talking head with a vaguely foreign accent): “ . . . . considering a proposal to cut off welfare benefits for those involved in terrorism. Not just the terrorist himself, but their extended families. Parents, brothers, sisters, children, grandparents. In some cases there are multiple generations on assistance.”

Okay – I AM paraphrasing here. But that's pretty much what the man said. It was a split screen. On the left was this talking head. On the right was the debris strewn Belgian airport. Then, all too deliciously, the camera cut back to the Fox hosts and hostess, who took the opportunity to remind us that the 2 airport suicide bombers were, in fact, brothers – and born in Belgium. The one who got away, in the tan jacket? No ID on him yet, but there is a “massive manhunt” under way. Isn’t this – a massive hunt for just one man, the one who got away after Paris – EXACTLY the sort of approach that resulted in preparations for the Airport and Subway bombings to escape notice? I'm just asking, Frenchie.

Back to the welfare for terrorists thing.

On the face of it, “I don’t disagree” with ending their free housing, food stamps, unemployment benefits, public transit tokens, free basic cable, obama phones and whatever else they’re getting. If terrorists on welfare can amass huge caches of machine guns and bomb materials, like those confiscated since Paris, clearly European taxpayers are being forced to pay for their own horrific deaths, no?

But let’s take a deep breath, Europe, and consider the larger picture. You say you have 3 or 4 generations of muslims on welfare? Who don’t integrate into the community? They don’t adopt western values such as religious freedom, democracy, the rule of law, and rights for women? Uh huh. I think this problem is going to take a more serious approach besides ending the freebies AFTER some angry guy blows up an airport, no?

Again, I’m not disagreeing with cutting off the families' welfare. But that’s not going to be enough. Some next door neighbor is going to take them in, and the survivors are going to hit the ground running, immediately planning the next attack.

Trump, do you have any ideas? You do? Please share!

(Trump) “Waterboarding”

Really? That’s it? I heard you were tough on terrorism, but that’s the best you can come up with? People are going to have to stop comparing you to the Nazis.

Let’s set aside for a moment that mock executions are a violation of the Geneva convention. As is asphyxiation, sleep deprivation, and letting the tap run while you brush your teeth, which wastes a gallon of precious fresh water first thing every morning.

We’re either on board with the Geneva convention, or we’re not. In for a dime, in for a dollar. If the US withdraws from the agreement, then we will have no excuse for outrage the next time some captured US soldier is burned alive. Or “sold on the market” if she’s a someone's daughter in a military uniform.

Besides, Obama is about to turn Gitmo back over to the Castro brothers, end the embargo, and release a bunch of imprisoned Cuban spies as a goodwill measure. I assume cuba will get to keep our waterboarding kits, hoods, manacles, etc. They use these in their own prisons, no doubt.

Here’s my idea for getting tough on terrorists. It doesn’t violate the Geneva convention, but it still has a downside: Drone, cruise missile, and plane attacks daily on every significant concentration of ISIS fighters. There will be some collateral damage, and civilian casualties. Just like there was in World War 2, both in Germany and Japan. The idea of embedding yourself amongst civilians to wage war is - itself - war crime.

If someone has a better idea for quickly reducing the headcount and operational capabilities of ISIS, you are free to suggest it in this thread. I’m just saying – cutting off welfare benefits for Nazi sympathizers in America during world war 2 wouldn’t have had an impact. Nor would waterboarding Japanese detainees in FDR's concentration camps.
 
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The only way to defeat ISIS is make them look like the losers they are. As long as they hold territory they will be able to recruit people. The Air Campaign is not working, they needed to be destroyed and the areas (actual land) they occupy they need to be eradicated from.

Only way to do that is ground troops. This is the only country in the world that can take that on and we all know eventually that is exactly what is going to happen. This gets a lot worse before it gets better.

With our current POTUS there is no telling how many more times this will happen and will result in no action what so ever.

On a side note: I noticed the left on this board awfully quiet yesterday, must not have gotten the talking points yet.......
 
The only way to defeat ISIS is make them look like the losers they are. As long as they hold territory they will be able to recruit people. The Air Campaign is not working, they needed to be destroyed and the areas (actual land) they occupy they need to be eradicated from.

Only way to do that is ground troops. This is the only country in the world that can take that on and we all know eventually that is exactly what is going to happen. This gets a lot worse before it gets better.

With our current POTUS there is no telling how many more times this will happen and will result in no action what so ever.

On a side note: I noticed the left on this board awfully quiet yesterday, must not have gotten the talking points yet.......
I agree that ground troops will be needed.

I just don't want those troops to be US supplied.

at some point the residents of Syria, Iraq, and other besieged nations need to fight for their survival. It seems that all too quickly they turn over their weapons and join the other side.
 
Nobody does but nobody else is going to do it.
we've seen this movie already. The American military is good at:

  • airstrikes
  • mobile armor (abrams tanks)
  • conventional battlefield tactics
we're at our worst, in full battle regalia, going door to door in densely packed arab neighborhoods, trying to root out embedded fighters.
 
we've seen this movie already. The American military is good at:

  • airstrikes
  • mobile armor (abrams tanks)
  • conventional battlefield tactics
we're at our worst, in full battle regalia, going door to door in densely packed arab neighborhoods, trying to root out embedded fighters.

Actually our guys are pretty good at that, look I don't want them there either, I have family that could very well be sent back.

However, ISIS is a direct threat to National Security of our country. The only way to make them go away is to physically destroy them....

Waiting for Europe, Waiting for Saudi Arabia, Jordon blah blah blah........it only gets worse and worse and worse.
 
Actually our guys are pretty good at that, look I don't want them there either, I have family that could very well be sent back.

However, ISIS is a direct threat to National Security of our country. The only way to make them go away is to physically destroy them....

Waiting for Europe, Waiting for Saudi Arabia, Jordon blah blah blah........it only gets worse and worse and worse.

I'm not waiting for Saudi Arabia or Jordan. Saudi Arabia is a Sunni nation anyway, and it would be like expecting them to kill their own.

I'm looking to kurds and other non-Sunni's to take up the fight for their own nations.
 
I'm not waiting for Saudi Arabia or Jordan. Saudi Arabia is a Sunni nation anyway, and it would be like expecting them to kill their own.

I'm looking to kurds and other non-Sunni's to take up the fight for their own nations.

The Kurds are fighting but I don't think we have given them sufficient arms to fight with. I think the reason we have not is we are afraid of pissing off the Turks.........

If it were up to me I would toss Turkey out of NATO and proceed to give the Kurds any arms they requested.
 
Judging by what they have done so far, I'd say their plan for dealing with the European based terrorists would be to just leave and let them have their countries. They have invited in the barbarians and now they are proving themselves too timid to confront them. They have nothing left but retreat (walking backwards with their hands up)...
 
The Kurds are fighting but I don't think we have given them sufficient arms to fight with. I think the reason we have not is we are afraid of pissing off the Turks.........

If it were up to me I would toss Turkey out of NATO and proceed to give the Kurds any arms they requested.
that's the consensus, and my opinion too. evidently the Obama administration is having someone interview each and every Kurdish militia leader. first to establish whether he can be "trusted" with weapons at all, and then determining the ration of guns and ammo which will be allotted.

contrast this with WW2, when allies dropped tens of thousands of cheap FP-45 "liberator" pistols behind enemy lines so that freedom fighters could take out the invading troops which were tormenting them.

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Judging by what they have done so far, I'd say their plan for dealing with the European based terrorists would be to just leave and let them have their countries. They have invited in the barbarians and now they are proving themselves too timid to confront them. They have nothing left but retreat (walking backwards with their hands up)...

the talking heads this morning were theorizing about ways to "turn" local muslim leaders in Belgium. turn them into informers, etc.

these idiots should visit and see if that works for US gang violence. The bloods and crips will shoot you and your entire family if they think you're informing on them.
 
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