Experimental shot

[Truthiseternal1]

It's not FDA approved or fully clinically tested. If you want to be part of the lab rat testing..... go for it. Legally nobody can be required to get an experimental vaccine.
What happens when all of those people who took the shot come down with debilitating long term health problems as a result? Only time will tell if there will be a few billion ticking time bombs. It could end up being worse than the virus could have ever been.
It just seems weird that they are pushing it on people with so much effort. Considering that the mortality rate is less than the common flu.

 

[now_what]

It's not FDA approved or fully clinically tested. If you want to be part of the lab rat testing..... go for it. Legally nobody can be required to get an experimental vaccine.
What happens when all of those people who took the shot come down with debilitating long term health problems as a result? Only time will tell if there will be a few billion ticking time bombs. It could end up being worse than the virus could have ever been.
It just seems weird that they are pushing it on people with so much effort. Considering that the mortality rate is less than the common flu.

then don’t take it If you’re scared, pretty simple. The mortality rate of COVID-19 is higher than the flu.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

then don’t take it If you’re scared, pretty simple. The mortality rate of COVID-19 is higher than the flu.

Not significantly:

WHO | Infection fatality rate of COVID-19 inferred from seroprevalence data

The reason more people died from covid-19 than the average flu was more the result of its prevalance (you know, the result of "gain of function" efforts at the Wuhan lab) than its virulance.

 

[Boltlady]

It's not FDA approved or fully clinically tested. If you want to be part of the lab rat testing..... go for it. Legally nobody can be required to get an experimental vaccine.
What happens when all of those people who took the shot come down with debilitating long term health problems as a result? Only time will tell if there will be a few billion ticking time bombs. It could end up being worse than the virus could have ever been.
It just seems weird that they are pushing it on people with so much effort. Considering that the mortality rate is less than the common flu.

Although I don't remember his name I did see where a French virologist said that the ticking time bomb will prove to be an apt description. It has to do with a spiked protein that is being injected into the bloodstreams and will weaken immunities for all sorts of things.

 

[Addy]

Although I don't remember his name I did see where a French virologist said that the ticking time bomb will prove to be an apt description. It has to do with a spiked protein that is being injected into the bloodstreams and will weaken immunities for all sorts of things.

Are you leery of the flu vaccine and all the other well known and required vaccines as well?

 

[Dawg]

Are you leery of the flu vaccine and all the other well known and required vaccines as well?

Flu shot is NOT experimental
I have taken it for several years

 

[Addy]

Flu shot is NOT experimental
I have taken it for several years

Good to hear... we have a new version of the flu each year and a new vaccine for it as well.
Last year I received a double dose of the flu vaccine.

 

[ObamacareForever]

What happens when all of those people who took the shot come down with debilitating long term health problems as a result?

Why would you think that us with the vaccine are going to come down with debilitating long term health problems?

 

[middleview]

Flu shot is NOT experimental
I have taken it for several years

What makes the covid vaccines experimental? mRNA has been under development for decades. Modification to use it for Covid was easily done due to that research. Pfizer began their work in February 2020. Their human trials began in April.

 

[middleview]

It's not FDA approved or fully clinically tested. If you want to be part of the lab rat testing..... go for it. Legally nobody can be required to get an experimental vaccine.
What happens when all of those people who took the shot come down with debilitating long term health problems as a result? Only time will tell if there will be a few billion ticking time bombs. It could end up being worse than the virus could have ever been.
It just seems weird that they are pushing it on people with so much effort. Considering that the mortality rate is less than the common flu.

What is the difference between the Emergency Use authorization and Full FDA authorization? Do you know?

 

[Boltlady]

Are you leery of the flu vaccine and all the other well known and required vaccines as well?

Actually I am leery of quite a few of them. For one thing I've read of different types of outbreaks of diseases on ships or other areas where the vast majority of people have been vaccinated against them and the outbreaks have occurred anyway. Then there's the fact that a few years ago I watched a video of a speech by Bill Gates where he said that the world should have 90% less people in it. He said that vaccines were a good way to achieve that.

There have been quite a number of places where he has provided vaccines for the populations to their detriment. One example of that is India. That had/have a disease that resembles polio. He supplied them with a vaccine for it and some 47,000 children died of the vaccine. There have been many other situations where bad things have happened where people were given vaccines (like sterilization) under the auspices of helping them.

Mostly I'm suspicious of the constant pressure for everyone to get the
covid vaccine. It's like the old 'he doth protest too much'. Some people are getting obscenely rich from it all and they want more.

 

[middleview]

Actually I am leery of quite a few of them. For one thing I've read of different types of outbreaks of diseases on ships or other areas where the vast majority of people have been vaccinated against them and the outbreaks have occurred anyway. Then there's the fact that a few years ago I watched a video of a speech by Bill Gates where he said that the world should have 90% less people in it. He said that vaccines were a good way to achieve that.

There have been quite a number of places where he has provided vaccines for the populations to their detriment. One example of that is India. That had/have a disease that resembles polio. He supplied them with a vaccine for it and some 47,000 children died of the vaccine. There have been many other situations where bad things have happened where people were given vaccines (like sterilization) under the auspices of helping them.

Mostly I'm suspicious of the constant pressure for everyone to get the
covid vaccine. It's like the old 'he doth protest too much'. Some people are getting obscenely rich from it all and they want more.

I saw the unedited talk by Gates and linked to it on a previous thread. He did not say vaccines would reduce population. He said they'd increase the population...but with a little clever editing it seems he is saying the opposite.

What outbreak on a ship where the majority were vaccinated are you talking about?

What link do you have to Gates providing a vaccine that killed 47,000 kids? Quit making shit up...it is simply reprehensible for you to accuse people of murder on a vast scale with no evidence at all.

 

[Boltlady]

I saw the unedited talk by Gates and linked to it on a previous thread. He did not say vaccines would reduce population. He said they'd increase the population...but with a little clever editing it seems he is saying the opposite.

What outbreak on a ship where the majority were vaccinated are you talking about?

What link do you have to Gates providing a vaccine that killed 47,000 kids? Quit making shit up...it is simply reprehensible for you to accuse people of murder on a vast scale with no evidence at all.

Here's one. There're many more.

US warship quarantined at sea due to virus outbreak

By Barbara Starr, CNN Pentagon Correspondent
Updated 1:50 PM EDT, Wed March 13, 2019

U.S. Navy/Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Jonathan B. Trejo

(CNN) —
A US warship has essentially been quarantined at sea for over two months and has been unable to make a port call due to an outbreak of a viral infection similar to mumps.
Twenty-five sailors and Marines aboard the USS Fort McHenry amphibious warship have been diagnosed with parotitis, which causes symptoms similar to mumps, according to US military officials.
Until CNN asked about the incident, the US military had not disclosed it. The illness first broke out in December, with the most recent case being reported on March 9.

“None of the cases are life-threatening and all have either already made or are expected to make a full recovery,” the Fifth Fleet said in a statement provided to CNN.

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All seven hundred and three military personnel aboard the ship have received measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) booster vaccinations, according to the US Navy’s Fifth Fleet headquartered in Bahrain.
The ship is currently operating in the Persian Gulf region and military medical officials are assessing when it may be deemed medically safe to make a port call.
A US military official tells CNN that when there are major disease outbreaks, a decision may be taken to halt port visits until 30 days after the last reported illness due to varying incubation periods.
But the Fort McHenry did make a port call in early January in Romania when it was in the Black Sea before traveling back through the Mediterranean and into the Middle East.
The ship includes elements of the 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit. Since the initial case was detected on December 22, 24 of the 25 patients have returned to duty.
After they became ill, the patients were quarantined and treated in the ship’s medical facility. Living and work spaces were disinfected.
None of the personnel had to be medevaced off the ship and all are expected to make a full recovery.
However, a military medical team specializing in preventative medical care is expected to deploy in the coming days to make an assessment if further steps may be needed, according to the official.
The ship, which carries Marines to perform amphibious warfare duties did have some of its scheduled training modified to deal with the outbreak’s impact.

 

[middleview]

Here's one. There're many more.

US warship quarantined at sea due to virus outbreak

By Barbara Starr, CNN Pentagon Correspondent
Updated 1:50 PM EDT, Wed March 13, 2019

U.S. Navy/Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Jonathan B. Trejo

(CNN) —
A US warship has essentially been quarantined at sea for over two months and has been unable to make a port call due to an outbreak of a viral infection similar to mumps.
Twenty-five sailors and Marines aboard the USS Fort McHenry amphibious warship have been diagnosed with parotitis, which causes symptoms similar to mumps, according to US military officials.
Until CNN asked about the incident, the US military had not disclosed it. The illness first broke out in December, with the most recent case being reported on March 9.

“None of the cases are life-threatening and all have either already made or are expected to make a full recovery,” the Fifth Fleet said in a statement provided to CNN.

RELATED ARTICLEUS human rights report notes Khashoggi killing, avoids mention of Saudi prince
All seven hundred and three military personnel aboard the ship have received measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) booster vaccinations, according to the US Navy’s Fifth Fleet headquartered in Bahrain.
The ship is currently operating in the Persian Gulf region and military medical officials are assessing when it may be deemed medically safe to make a port call.
A US military official tells CNN that when there are major disease outbreaks, a decision may be taken to halt port visits until 30 days after the last reported illness due to varying incubation periods.
But the Fort McHenry did make a port call in early January in Romania when it was in the Black Sea before traveling back through the Mediterranean and into the Middle East.
The ship includes elements of the 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit. Since the initial case was detected on December 22, 24 of the 25 patients have returned to duty.
After they became ill, the patients were quarantined and treated in the ship’s medical facility. Living and work spaces were disinfected.
None of the personnel had to be medevaced off the ship and all are expected to make a full recovery.
However, a military medical team specializing in preventative medical care is expected to deploy in the coming days to make an assessment if further steps may be needed, according to the official.
The ship, which carries Marines to perform amphibious warfare duties did have some of its scheduled training modified to deal with the outbreak’s impact.

The facts of the story do not support your post claiming they'd been vaccinated....where does it say they'd been vaccinated for parotitis?

Twenty-five sailors and Marines aboard the USS Fort McHenry amphibious warship have been diagnosed with parotitis, which causes symptoms similar to mumps, according to US military officials.

 

[Boltlady]

The facts of the story do not support your post claiming they'd been vaccinated....where does it say they'd been vaccinated for parotitis?

Twenty-five sailors and Marines aboard the USS Fort McHenry amphibious warship have been diagnosed with parotitis, which causes symptoms similar to mumps, according to US military officials.

That's jus one that I grabbed. There are others. In fact I haven't stated anything that I haven't seen different sources for. I just have not been up to doing the research that I used to do and consequently am not inclined. If you don't believe anything I've said feel free to not believe it.

 

[middleview]

That's jus one that I grabbed. There are others. In fact I haven't stated anything that I haven't seen different sources for. I just have not been up to doing the research that I used to do and consequently am not inclined. If you don't believe anything I've said feel free to not believe it.

Gee..great excuse for having accused others of murder and having nothing at all to prove you post.

I accept your surrender....you have no proof nor have you any crediblity and we both know it.

 

[Dawg]

The facts of the story do not support your post claiming they'd been vaccinated....where does it say they'd been vaccinated for parotitis?

Twenty-five sailors and Marines aboard the USS Fort McHenry amphibious warship have been diagnosed with parotitis, which causes symptoms similar to mumps, according to US military officials.

If you were a Sailor you should know how Sailors are vaccinated......

Military Pin-Cushions

 

[Dawg]

That's jus one that I grabbed. There are others. In fact I haven't stated anything that I haven't seen different sources for. I just have not been up to doing the research that I used to do and consequently am not inclined. If you don't believe anything I've said feel free to not believe it.

He claims to have been in the Navy and if he was he knows Sailors are over vaccinated.........

 

[Boltlady]

Gee..great excuse for having accused others of murder and having nothing at all to prove you post.

I accept your surrender....you have no proof nor have you any crediblity and we both know it.

Another quick look produced this from a search engine:

Measles Outbreak Traced to Fully Vaccinated Patient for ...
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/04/measles-outbreak-traced-fully-vaccinated-patient-first-time
A person fully vaccinated against measles has contracted the disease and passed it on to others. The startling case study contradicts received wisdom about the vaccine and suggests that a recent...
Whooping cough outbreak among vaccinated in California: LA ...
https://sharylattkisson.com/2019/10/whooping-cough-outbreak-among-vaccinated-in-california-la-times/
California: Outbreak of Whooping Cough Affects 30 Students at Private School, All of Them Vaccinated Los Angeles County officials reported that all 90 people who have recently come down with whooping cough within the county this year had been immunized against it.
Mumps study shows immunity gaps among vaccinated people ...
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/09/190902181607.htm
Mumps study shows immunity gaps among vaccinated people ... research from Emory Vaccine Center and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention indicates. ... several mumps outbreaks have ...

 

[middleview]

Another quick look produced this from a search engine:

Measles Outbreak Traced to Fully Vaccinated Patient for ...
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/04/measles-outbreak-traced-fully-vaccinated-patient-first-time
A person fully vaccinated against measles has contracted the disease and passed it on to others. The startling case study contradicts received wisdom about the vaccine and suggests that a recent...
Whooping cough outbreak among vaccinated in California: LA ...
https://sharylattkisson.com/2019/10/whooping-cough-outbreak-among-vaccinated-in-california-la-times/
California: Outbreak of Whooping Cough Affects 30 Students at Private School, All of Them Vaccinated Los Angeles County officials reported that all 90 people who have recently come down with whooping cough within the county this year had been immunized against it.
Mumps study shows immunity gaps among vaccinated people ...
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/09/190902181607.htm
Mumps study shows immunity gaps among vaccinated people ... research from Emory Vaccine Center and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention indicates. ... several mumps outbreaks have ...

You post as if the vaccine is useless....

From your link:
When it comes to the measles vaccine, two shots are better than one. Most people in the United States are initially vaccinated against the virus shortly after their first birthday and return for a booster shot as a toddler. Less than 1% of people who get both shots will contract the potentially lethal skin and respiratory infection. And even if a fully vaccinated person does become infected—a rare situation known as “vaccine failure”—they weren’t thought to be contagious.