Flooding

[KnotaFrayed]

No worries about global climate change:

New York experiencing unprecedented flooding.

http://twitter.com/johannhari101/status/263094482038308866

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162...east-triggers-massive-blackouts-and-flooding/

http://www.weather.com/news/weather-hurricanes/hurricane-sandy-pictures-photos2-20121025

Hope all are safe and remain safe.

 

[degsme]

Well its also a confluence of circumstance:

• Neap Tides
• High Tide
• "Red Sector" (NW in the Gulf Stream, SE on the West cost above the equator) hitting NY
• Just as the eye of the storm hits
• A hurricane
• Amplified by the Jet Stream

Only the last two are possible the consequence of global warming - and even that's not fixed - we don't have a large enough sample to say this for sure.

 

[KnotaFrayed]

Unprecedented
I agree, factors that add to the effect, I also agree that global climate change is a real thing, the question is not whether it is happening, but whether humans have been driving it or exacerbating what would occur naturally.

As far as I know, there is no evidence of 7 billion humans and all their activities and waste by-products on this planet before. Ya think if any one of us invited or crowded 100 people to live in an average 3 bedroom home, the "climate" might change a bit?

Which is the bigger cost to the economy? Disaster after disaster after disaster or actively pursing solutions to mitigate a suspected cause of disaster after disaster after disaster? Do we walk by or step over someone in the street on the ground and in obvious physical distress because we don't have "conclusive" information about what's going on exactly or do we help get them some help?

I know there is an unprecedented convergence of tidal factors and location timing, but the breadth and power of the storm has little to do with the coincidental timing of tides.

 

[degsme]

Sure AGM is real - but just as you cannot include the temp plateau without filtering for the noise signal, you cannot do the same for any singleton storm scenarios either.

 

[Jen]

Nope. None at all. We were in this cycle (warm Atlantic/ cool Pacific known now as a La Nina dominance) back in the 1950's ( hot and dry in the center of the country too... Bazinga!) and the cycle moved past that and back again.

You can call it whatever you wish, of course, but if you're suckered in by those who want to make a lot of fast bucks off of those with no memories with what is normal global cycling, then that's fine as long as you don't make me follow along with your being suckered. I don't play that game.

 

[degsme]

Nope. None at all. We were in this cycle (warm Atlantic/ cool Pacific known now as a La Nina dominance) back in the 1950's

Wrong Jen.

we've never had the Jet Stream descent into the lower latitudes as delayed as it has been this year. And the delay has been progressive over the last few decades.

Furthermore En Nino/La Nina is a cycle that runs purely on the Pacific. Has nothing to do with the Atlantic.

Furthermore the typical cycle is about a 6-7yr cycle. We have recently accellrated this to literally back to back flips.

You can call it whatever you wish, of course, but if you're suckered in by those who want to make a lot of fast bucks off of those with no memories with what is normal global cycling,

No the person being suckered is you. You lack the math to understand what is and is not significant. And you really once again don't know what you are talking about - but you are "holding opinions"... without recognizing your own ignorance on this.

Humility might suit you better.


Jen you would do a lot better if you really understood what you did and did not UNDERSTAND in full detail. You clearly lack in the fields of science, mathematics and economics. Even in civics you have large segments missing. Take it as an opportunity to learn rather than to show your ignorance.