Sgt Staples
Mayor
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it." --Thomas Paine, The Crisis, no. 4, 1777
Fouder's quote of the day; 12-21-12
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One of the fatigues is taxation...
Sgt Staples
Mayor
Yes dear, I know, we all are allowed to exist for the purpose of supporting the government.
Well you're evidently going to get your wish. The Obamists are so intent of getting seven days worth of revenue from the Rich, that they're going to let taxes go up on everyone.
Looks like if taxation is your idea of fatigue, we're all going to be pretty tired.
Except those that lose their jobs due to it; there going to get lots of time to rest.
So...it appears you are saying that paying one's taxes is not part of being a good citizen. That the military shouldn't be supported. That we shouldn't build roads for commerce. Got it.
Like I said before...as long as you stay in your bunker in the hills of Tennessee, it's all good. Tennesee? Home of the TVA? A huge government project? Sgt Staples? As in the US Military??? Wait...maybe taxes are bad...
888888
Council Member
You want to bet that more jobs have been lost due to greed so the wealthy can increase the amount of money they make over the amount of jobs that will be lost because a few million people have to do without a few % of the wealth they created with their greed?
The wealthy have increased their share of the income gains our country have accomplished at a rate of 100% of it vs the average person who has no gains to show for the same time period. And you think that giving them more of that gain in lower taxes is a fair idea? Now who would be that stupid to think that is fair?
Sgt Staples
Mayor
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No you don't get it. Federal Taxation used for defending the country, conducting foreign policy and for making trade 'regular' is completely legitimate. Taxation used for the purposes of wealth distribution to promote some type of Marxist vision of economic equality is not.
And roads and bridges should be funded at the state and local level and through transportation, not income, taxes.
The TVA is completely privatized and is totally funded by the people it supplies power to. Every damn dime that went into building the TVA has been paid back tenfold by the people who use its electricity.
The TVA is an example of government funding that works, and the Military is an example of government funding that is necessary. Government spending money to bail out auto companies, buy votes, support leeches that are able to, but choose not to work or fund union pensions is theft.
Apparently you are too thick to know the difference. What are you going to do when the well runs dry? It's mathematically assured to happen
Sgt Staples
Mayor
What's the problem? You think there should be such a thing as a guaranteed income, go to North Korea. You want government to redistribute money to you?
The so called middle income earners can move up or down the financial ladder, just as anyone else can. If they don't it's nobody's fault but their own.
General welfare...is a constitutional concept. There is more to the nation than the military.
The TVA was a wealth redistribution scheme...based on the concept of general welfare. You live where you do because of it.
Sgt Staples
Mayor
I see, the phrase General Welfare, at least according to you, means the government can do anything it deems to be in the General Welfare. If that were the case, there would be no need for article one section eight which specifically outlines and limits what the government can do to promote the general welfare.
The constitution does contain a means of expanding on those limitations. It's called the amendment process. An amendment to the constitution requires a 2/3rds majority of both houses of congress, and a 3/4ths majority of the states for approval.
That's why liberals try to pass their expansion of the Federal government with legislation, rather than by amendment.
Which is the reason we have a 3.6 trillion federal government with a 17 trillion debt and are turning into a 3rd world Marxist pigsty.
Sgt Staples
Mayor
Yeah, a wealth distribution scheme that redistributes wealth from the electricity user to the electricity provider.
The TVA is the story of development in the valley. It has among the lowest rates in the nation...Should it be free?
And btw...it's a government owned corporation.
This discussion is old. Like Alexander Hamilton old.
Let's see...The Militia Act of 1792 changed the Constitution...with no amendment. How did that happen?
