Good postmortem on the Boston bombing attack

[marvin martian]

This is an excellent analysis of what went wrong with the LE response to the attacks. It was obvious from watching on TV it was a total cluster f-ck, with most of the cops immediately going full-SS on the local population, violating their 4th amendment rights willy-nilly and but the details from this report show it was even worse than we saw, including friendly-fire casualties and a total lack of respect for citizens' rights.

http://weaponsman.com/?p=21830

 

[as seen on tv]

this is invariably what happens WHENEVER there's a shooting, bombing, etc.

the police regard everyone present at the scene as a possible suspect. Even if they are bleeding or have gunshot wounds.

if you want proof of this, just watch a clip of any hostage situation.

released hostages are STERNLY instructed to walk out slowly with their hands on their heads, and STILL sometimes tackled to "neutralize" them.

the public has a "don't snitch" meme.

the men in blue regard everyone not in blue as a potential perp.

 

[marvin martian]

this is invariably what happens WHENEVER there's a shooting, bombing, etc.

the police regard everyone present at the scene as a possible suspect. Even if they are bleeding or have gunshot wounds.

if you want proof of this, just watch a clip of any hostage situation.

released hostages are STERNLY instructed to walk out slowly with their hands on their heads, and STILL sometimes tackled to "neutralize" them.

the public has a "don't snitch" meme.

the men in blue regard everyone not in blue as a potential perp.

These poorly trained and undisciplined cops shot a fellow officer, and fired on a vehicle containing other officers. Not to mention the rampant violation of citizens' rights as the cops "locked down" several areas, searched peoples' houses and cars without cause. Check out this lovely image captured by a citizen from the window of his home:

 

[connieb]

This is an excellent analysis of what went wrong with the LE response to the attacks. It was obvious from watching on TV it was a total cluster f-ck, with most of the cops immediately going full-SS on the local population, violating their 4th amendment rights willy-nilly and but the details from this report show it was even worse than we saw, including friendly-fire casualties and a total lack of respect for citizens' rights.

http://weaponsman.com/?p=21830

In a crisis is when it is most important to value our individual rights. But, it seems in every instance, the fascist -be they politicians or police, abuse it for the sake of trampling on more rights.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

These poorly trained and undisciplined cops shot a fellow officer, and fired on a vehicle containing other officers. Not to mention the rampant violation of citizens' rights as the cops "locked down" several areas, searched peoples' houses and cars without cause. Check out this lovely image captured by a citizen from the window of his home:

You gun-loving wackos are a little later whining about the Boston law enforcement response.You cowered in your homes when the bad guys were still out there.

;-)

 

[marvin martian]

You gun-loving wackos are a little later whining about the Boston law enforcement response.You cowered in your homes when the bad guys were still out there.

;-)

Figured you'd take the State stoolie route.

BTW, "lock down" under penalty of death isn't "cowering"...I feel sorry for the people whose rights were violated by fascists like you.

 

[RickWA]

Figured you'd take the State stoolie route.

BTW, "lock down" under penalty of death isn't "cowering"...I feel sorry for the people whose rights were violated by fascists like you.

It appears the DNC-payroll doesn't include provision for cursory review of Boston demographics. :-/

 

[marvin martian]

It appears the DNC-payroll doesn't include provision for cursory review of Boston demographics. :-/

Clearly not, just enough time for a knee-jerk defense of the regime.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Figured you'd take the State stoolie route.

BTW, "lock down" under penalty of death isn't "cowering"...I feel sorry for the people whose rights were violated by fascists like you.

Let's just put aside the tardy whining from wusses who were happy back then cowering in their homes.

One thing the lock down did was prevent the bombers from escaping. If hundreds of thousands of people were buzzing around the bombers could have easily slipped out of town for more mayhem. The lockdown prevented that, and led to their capture by the brave cops who cornered them. You don't view that as a good thing?

 

[RickWA]

Clearly not, just enough time for a knee-jerk defense of the regime.

DNC remuneration based on quantity, not quality. Insects deal in volume.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

DNC remuneration based on quantity, not quality. Insects deal in volume.

Interesting....the Most Boring Man in the World meets the Second Most Boring Man in the World.


;-)

 

[marvin martian]

Let's just put aside the tardy whining from wusses who were happy back then cowering in their homes.

One thing the lock down did was prevent the bombers from escaping. If hundreds of thousands of people were buzzing around the bombers could have easily slipped out of town for more mayhem. The lockdown prevented that, and led to their capture by the brave cops who cornered them. You don't view that as a good thing?

Are you aware that one of the terrorists was killed when his brother ran over him with a car, and the other was spotted hiding in a boat by a civilian?

However, both your dodge and your desperate, DNC-mandated defense of the regime are amusing, as always...

 

[RickWA]

Interesting....the Most Boring Man in the World meets the Second Most Boring Man in the World.


;-)

Cha-ching. Another post, another DNC-reimbursed increment.

 

[Arkady]

This is an excellent analysis of what went wrong with the LE response to the attacks. It was obvious from watching on TV it was a total cluster f-ck, with most of the cops immediately going full-SS on the local population, violating their 4th amendment rights willy-nilly and but the details from this report show it was even worse than we saw, including friendly-fire casualties and a total lack of respect for citizens' rights.

http://weaponsman.com/?p=21830

I realize that my personal observations only go so far, since I wasn't everywhere and couldn't see everything, and there were doubtless abuses going on places I didn't observe. But I was right near the middle of a lot of what was happening, and I didn't see any inappropriate police behavior. Sure, there was little bit of an overreaction by some people. For example, since the bomber was suspected of hiding out near our workplace, we were sent home for safety, which struck me at the time like a weird overreaction and still does. But I believe that was the call of the execs, not the police. All my interactions with police, at the time, (including going past a road block) were courteous and done with weapons in holsters. In fact, I was struck by a gulf between the reaction out-of-state (relatives calling me in a panic to make sure we were all OK), and in-state (people more curious than worried).

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Are you aware that one of the terrorists was killed when his brother ran over him with a car, and the other was spotted hiding in a boat by a civilian?

However, both your dodge and your desperate, DNC-mandated defense of the regime are amusing, as always...

Of course. Cornered like rats, as a result of the strategy employed by law enforcement.

We can just imagine your screeching if law enforcment fell down on the job, let the bombers escape, and they engaged in more mayhem.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Cha-ching. Another post, another DNC-reimbursed increment.

Of course, the really tough question is which one of you is the Most Boring Man in the World, and which one is the Second Most Boring Man in the World.

I gotta give you the title.

;-)

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

I realize that my personal observations only go so far, since I wasn't everywhere and couldn't see everything, and there were doubtless abuses going on places I didn't observe. But I was right near the middle of a lot of what was happening, and I didn't see any inappropriate police behavior. Sure, there was little bit of an overreaction by some people. For example, since the bomber was suspected of hiding out near our workplace, we were sent home for safety, which struck me at the time like a weird overreaction and still does. But I believe that was the call of the execs, not the police. All my interactions with police, at the time, (including going past a road block) were courteous and done with weapons in holsters. In fact, I was struck by a gulf between the reaction out-of-state (relatives calling me in a panic to make sure we were all OK), and in-state (people more curious than worried).

Once they decided to shut down mass transit to make it harder for the perps to escape, there was not much choice but to recommend that people stay put.

Their plan worked like a charm, as they caught the bombers in a jiffy. But, carpers gotta carp.

 

[marvin martian]

But I was right near the middle of a lot of what was happening, and I didn't see any inappropriate police behavior.

Of course you didn't.