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GOP: Obama hasn't cleaned up our royal mess fast enough!

Bugsy McGurk

Bugsy McGurk

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That's basically their talking point, eh?

They will grudgingly agree that GWB left behind a royal mess, and will also grudgingly agree that we have been in a recovery ever since under Obama, BUT, they say, "the recovery hasn't been fast enough! It's the slowest recovery ever!", they bloviate.

False, of course - it took us MUCH longer to recover from the Great Depression, and the economy under Reagan stumbled for a very long time even though he wasn't left a mess half as bad as the mess GWB left behind - but that's all the GOP can say...

"Obama hasn't cleaned up our royal mess fast enough! Vote for Willard and Lyin' Ryan so they can re-impose the same policies that created our royal mess!"

Ya gotta be loony to agree with the GOP on that one, no?

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Bugsy McGurk said:
They will grudgingly agree that GWB left behind a royal mess, and will also grudgingly agree that we have been in a recovery ever since under Obama, BUT, they say, "the recovery hasn't been fast enough! It's the slowest recovery ever!", they bloviate.
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No they don't. They won't even admit to the failures of W. They pretend that he never even existed and that the economic collapse at the end of his reign "just happened". Hell, they wouldn't even mention his name at their convention. This is the extent of the insanity that has taken hold of the modern Republican Party. Their entire worldview consists of fantasy. With their inherent inability to face up to the lessons of the past, they have no hope of creating a viable vision for the future.
 
The loonier among them would deny those things - and, granted, many are quite loony - but most grudgingly admit the mess and the recovery, with their talking point being that "the recovery has been too slow."

All depends on how profoundly they wish to lie.
 
What do you mean, GWB left behind a royal mess? In their fantasy world the "Bush Recession" was entirely the fault of Congressional Democrats.
 
NightSwimmer said:
No they don't. They won't even admit to the failures of W. They pretend that he never even existed and that the economic collapse at the end of his reign "just happened". Hell, they wouldn't even mention his name at their convention. This is the extent of the insanity that has taken hold of the modern Republican Party. Their entire worldview consists of fantasy. With their inherent inability to face up to the lessons of the past, they have no hope of creating a viable vision for the future.
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LeRoy: It's even worse than that! They blame the economic collapse at the end of King George's reign on Barney Frank and Nancy Pelosi. George had nuthin' to do with it, see?
 
Their refusal to examine what went wrong in the Bush years is particularly scary because they're basically proposing to go back to all of his policies. It would be one thing if they said, "well, here's what we screwed up the last time around -- we won't be repeating that error, but we think everything else was solid, and it'll work out better once we fix that single problem." At least then they'd be selling something that addresses what happened. It would be like the NASA engineers, after the Challenger, saying "well, the O-Ring design wasn't good and we shouldn't have flown in such cold weather, but there's no fundamental problem with the rest of the spacecraft, so we're not going to go completely back to the drawing board before launching again." Instead, it's like the Challenger blew up and NASA just said "well, sometimes spacecraft blow up, but we're guessing if we just keep doing what we were doing before, the next one will be fine."
 
Arkady said:
Their refusal to examine what went wrong in the Bush years is particularly scary because they're basically proposing to go back to all of his policies. It would be one thing if they said, "well, here's what we screwed up the last time around -- we won't be repeating that error, but we think everything else was solid, and it'll work out better once we fix that single problem." At least then they'd be selling something that addresses what happened. It would be like the NASA engineers, after the Challenger, saying "well, the O-Ring design wasn't good and we shouldn't have flown in such cold weather, but there's no fundamental problem with the rest of the spacecraft, so we're not going to go completely back to the drawing board before launching again." Instead, it's like the Challenger blew up and NASA just said "well, sometimes spacecraft blow up, but we're guessing if we just keep doing what we were doing before, the next one will be fine."
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One thing about rigid ideologues - facts can never alter their thinking.

This was proven beyond doubt when WJC put through his tax hikes on the wealthy. Pugs uniformly predicted absolute economic calamity - not one Republican voted for Clinton's program. We then saw the best economic years in the history of the nation, and not one Republican admitted to being wrong, to this very day.

Reality means nothing to Pugs. They have their ideology, and that's the end of it.
 
The minimum wage is another example. Clinton pushed through what was the biggest single-year minimum wage hike in history. Republicans insisted it would be a job-killer. Instead, jobs were created at a terrific pace. It didn't alter their belief at all. Or Bush's tax cuts -- even after they triggered a move from record surpluses to record deficits, you still hear right-wingers pushing the idea that lower taxes mean higher revenues. It's religious faith, not reason. I don't think it's a coincidence most Biblical literalists are Republicans... that kind of training (believing absurdities no matter how clearly they're contradicted by facts -- or even self-contradicted), is a nice groundwork for becoming a GOP drone.
 
NightSwimmer said:
No they don't. They won't even admit to the failures of W. They pretend that he never even existed and that the economic collapse at the end of his reign "just happened". Hell, they wouldn't even mention his name at their convention. This is the extent of the insanity that has taken hold of the modern Republican Party. Their entire worldview consists of fantasy. With their inherent inability to face up to the lessons of the past, they have no hope of creating a viable vision for the future.
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Not only that, they try to pin the Bushie tail on the Donkey e.g. Obama started those wars and that 16 trillion is all HIS debt! :)
 
GOP: Obama hasn't cleaned up our royal mess fast enough!
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He hasnt done what he promised...thats the the talking point.

You remember Obama railing cause there was a 9 trillion dollar deficit and now with 16 trillion in debt... that kind of stuff is the talking point
 
Drumcollie said:
He hasnt done what he promised...thats the the talking point.

You remember Obama railing cause there was a 9 trillion dollar deficit and now with 16 trillion in debt... that kind of stuff is the talking point
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LeRoy: So you don't even understand the difference between the 'deficit' and the 'debt'. Sad. Kind of pathetic, really. You get a flunking grade in Econ 101.
 
Arkady said:
The minimum wage is another example. Clinton pushed through what was the biggest single-year minimum wage hike in history. Republicans insisted it would be a job-killer. Instead, jobs were created at a terrific pace. It didn't alter their belief at all. Or Bush's tax cuts -- even after they triggered a move from record surpluses to record deficits, you still hear right-wingers pushing the idea that lower taxes mean higher revenues. It's religious faith, not reason. I don't think it's a coincidence most Biblical literalists are Republicans... that kind of training (believing absurdities no matter how clearly they're contradicted by facts -- or even self-contradicted), is a nice groundwork for becoming a GOP drone.
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Pugs just prefer their fact-free existence.

They require deprogramming.
 
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