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I wish I had written this...

Raoul_Luke

"Wait, it's all Marxism?" "Always has been."
It's important to shed light on the U.S. government's broken promises that NATO would not expand "one inch eastward" after the fall of the Berlin Wall. Expanding NATO to Russia's border was a methodical betrayal of prospects for peaceful cooperation in Europe. What's more, NATO became a far-flung apparatus for waging war, from Yugoslavia in 1999 to Afghanistan a few years later to Libya in 2011.

The grim history of NATO since the disappearance of the Soviet-led Warsaw Pact military alliance more than 30 years ago is a saga of slick leaders in business suits bent on facilitating vast quantities of arms sales — not only to longtime NATO members but also to countries in Eastern Europe that recently gained membership. The U.S. mass media makes a careful collective detour around mentioning, much less illuminating, how NATO's dedication to avid militarism keeps fattening the profit margins of weapons dealers. By the time this decade began, the combined annual military spending of NATO countries had hit $1 trillion, about 20 times Russia's.

After Russia launched its invasion of Ukraine, denunciations of the attack came from one U.S. antiwar group after another after another, which had long opposed NATO's expansion and war activities. Veterans for Peace issued a cogent statement condemning the invasion while saying that "as veterans we know increased violence only fuels extremism." The organization said that "the only sane course of action now is a commitment to genuine diplomacy with serious negotiations — without which, conflict could easily spiral out of control to the point of further pushing the world toward nuclear war."

The statement added that "Veterans for Peace recognizes that this current crisis did not just happen in the last few days, but represents decades of policy decisions and government actions that have only contributed to the building of antagonisms and aggressions between countries."

We should be clear and unequivocal that Russia's war in Ukraine is an ongoing, massive, inexcusable crime against humanity for which the Russian government is solely responsible. But we should be under no illusions about the U.S. role in normalizing large-scale invasions while flouting international security. And the geopolitical approach of the U.S. government in Europe has been a precursor to conflict and foreseeable calamities.



Actually I think I did. I guess some of my old anti-war buddies on the left still exist after all. Good to know...
 
It’s not good for you to bottle up your true feelings. You can’t really hide your view that Putin’s invasion was the result of actions of others and therefore understandable. So you should come right out and say it. Go full deplorable.

Are you calling the Veterans for Peace traitors are ya? That's the REAL full frontal deplorable here...
 
It's important to shed light on the U.S. government's broken promises that NATO would not expand "one inch eastward" after the fall of the Berlin Wall. Expanding NATO to Russia's border was a methodical betrayal of prospects for peaceful cooperation in Europe. What's more, NATO became a far-flung apparatus for waging war, from Yugoslavia in 1999 to Afghanistan a few years later to Libya in 2011.

The grim history of NATO since the disappearance of the Soviet-led Warsaw Pact military alliance more than 30 years ago is a saga of slick leaders in business suits bent on facilitating vast quantities of arms sales — not only to longtime NATO members but also to countries in Eastern Europe that recently gained membership. The U.S. mass media makes a careful collective detour around mentioning, much less illuminating, how NATO's dedication to avid militarism keeps fattening the profit margins of weapons dealers. By the time this decade began, the combined annual military spending of NATO countries had hit $1 trillion, about 20 times Russia's.

After Russia launched its invasion of Ukraine, denunciations of the attack came from one U.S. antiwar group after another after another, which had long opposed NATO's expansion and war activities. Veterans for Peace issued a cogent statement condemning the invasion while saying that "as veterans we know increased violence only fuels extremism." The organization said that "the only sane course of action now is a commitment to genuine diplomacy with serious negotiations — without which, conflict could easily spiral out of control to the point of further pushing the world toward nuclear war."

The statement added that "Veterans for Peace recognizes that this current crisis did not just happen in the last few days, but represents decades of policy decisions and government actions that have only contributed to the building of antagonisms and aggressions between countries."

We should be clear and unequivocal that Russia's war in Ukraine is an ongoing, massive, inexcusable Crime against humanity for which the Russian government is solely responsible. But we should be under no illusions about the U.S. role in normalizing large-scale invasions while flouting international security. And the geopolitical approach of the U.S. government in Europe has been a precursor to conflict and foreseeable calamities.



Actually I think I did. I guess some of my old anti-war buddies on the left still exist after all. Good to know...

More blame America first republicans

Who wouldah thunk it :rolleyes:
 
It's important to shed light on the U.S. government's broken promises that NATO would not expand "one inch eastward" after the fall of the Berlin Wall. Expanding NATO to Russia's border was a methodical betrayal of prospects for peaceful cooperation in Europe. What's more, NATO became a far-flung apparatus for waging war, from Yugoslavia in 1999 to Afghanistan a few years later to Libya in 2011.

The grim history of NATO since the disappearance of the Soviet-led Warsaw Pact military alliance more than 30 years ago is a saga of slick leaders in business suits bent on facilitating vast quantities of arms sales — not only to longtime NATO members but also to countries in Eastern Europe that recently gained membership. The U.S. mass media makes a careful collective detour around mentioning, much less illuminating, how NATO's dedication to avid militarism keeps fattening the profit margins of weapons dealers. By the time this decade began, the combined annual military spending of NATO countries had hit $1 trillion, about 20 times Russia's.

After Russia launched its invasion of Ukraine, denunciations of the attack came from one U.S. antiwar group after another after another, which had long opposed NATO's expansion and war activities. Veterans for Peace issued a cogent statement condemning the invasion while saying that "as veterans we know increased violence only fuels extremism." The organization said that "the only sane course of action now is a commitment to genuine diplomacy with serious negotiations — without which, conflict could easily spiral out of control to the point of further pushing the world toward nuclear war."

The statement added that "Veterans for Peace recognizes that this current crisis did not just happen in the last few days, but represents decades of policy decisions and government actions that have only contributed to the building of antagonisms and aggressions between countries."

We should be clear and unequivocal that Russia's war in Ukraine is an ongoing, massive, inexcusable Crime against humanity for which the Russian government is solely responsible. But we should be under no illusions about the U.S. role in normalizing large-scale invasions while flouting international security. And the geopolitical approach of the U.S. government in Europe has been a precursor to conflict and foreseeable calamities.



Actually I think I did. I guess some of my old anti-war buddies on the left still exist after all. Good to know...
No, I don't think you wished you'd have written that. Nations that joined NATO begged to join. Nobody put a gun to their head other than the most likely outcome of the Russian strong man taking charge. A strong man interested in playing RISK all over Europe because encroaching democracies and democratic ideas would undermine and threaten his hold on power.

Russia has too many nukes to ever be invaded again from Europe. They have 9 time zones in a global warming world. Meaning their real issues lie being north of China and having no population in the East to speak of to make a strong case against illegal immigrant squatters. Russia's fascination with the Europe is debilitating to their future. The Russian men need to stop drinking themselves into early graves.
 
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Everybody who wished Biden would have done something about this a year ago.

They will see you at the mid terms.

More Putin propaganda

Biden admin DID supply arms to Ukraine last year

"...In 2021, the United States supplied Ukraine with 30 Javelin systems and 180 Javelin missiles as part of the annual military aid worth more than $450 million (along with several other supply packages) to bolster the US-Ukraine military and diplomatic relationship. .."

 
You think we have WW III?

FYI, you suffered another psychotic delusion.

Why don't you answer my question - are you calling the Veterans for Peace traitors? Or are they just stupid for believing that the US and NATO repeatedly acted provocatively towards Russia? Hell, even your hero Brandon knew that we were poking Russia in the eye:


Now you guys want to act like the Ukraine war is all the fault of a guy who never held public office until 2016. I think we can all see precisely who the stupid traitors are here.
 
Why don't you answer my question - are you calling the Veterans for Peace traitors? Or are they just stupid for believing that the US and NATO repeatedly acted provocatively towards Russia? Hell, even your hero Brandon knew that we were poking Russia in the eye:


Now you guys want to act like the Ukraine war is all the fault of a guy who never held public office until 2016. I think we can all see precisely who the stupid traitors are here.

I already answered that - I called you a traitor. Which is what you are.

Pay attention.
 
I already answered that - I called you a traitor. Which is what you are.

Pay attention.

Oh I am paying attention. I noticed when a DNC operative calls someone a "traitor" what they mean is that they are in opposition to the current democratic agenda. When people on both the left and the right agree that the US actions in the region the past 30 years set the wheels in motion for what we are seeing in Ukraine today, citing their reasoning on the matter is not "traitorous" - certainly not anymore than when those of us who opposed the Iraq invasion were being called "traitors" by the neocons. You are operating in the same vein here, which is not surprising because you have jumped into bed with them since the Trump movement called them out as the complete nincompoops they so obviously are.
 
Oh I am paying attention. I noticed when a DNC operative calls someone a "traitor" what they mean is that they are in opposition to the current democratic agenda. When people on both the left and the right agree that the US actions in the region the past 30 years set the wheels in motion for what we are seeing in Ukraine today, citing their reasoning on the matter is not "traitorous" - certainly not anymore than when those of us who opposed the Iraq invasion were being called "traitors" by the neocons. You are operating in the same vein here, which is not surprising because you have jumped into bed with them since the Trump movement called them out as the complete nincompoops they so obviously are.

And after all your babbling is done, the bottom line remains the same - there is no excuse for Putin’s invasion. He has no justification for the invasion and the war crimes he is committing. When you try to provide that justification you are engaging in treasonous conduct, not to mention being atrociously deplorable. A Trump cultist to the bitter end.
 
More Putin propaganda

Biden admin DID supply arms to Ukraine last year

"...In 2021, the United States supplied Ukraine with 30 Javelin systems and 180 Javelin missiles as part of the annual military aid worth more than $450 million (along with several other supply packages) to bolster the US-Ukraine military and diplomatic relationship. .."


As was the years before Branon
 
And after all your babbling is done, the bottom line remains the same - there is no excuse for Putin’s invasion. He has no justification for the invasion and the war crimes he is committing. When you try to provide that justification you are engaging in treasonous conduct, not to mention being atrociously deplorable. A Trump cultist to the bitter end.

In his mind he does, and anyone who understands the historical facts correctly knows why.

He attacked Ukraine, not the USA or even a NATO ally, so how can being honest about the facts leading up to the war be considered "treason?" After all your babbling, it obviously cannot. But you persist anyway because my real "treasonous" act is not subscribing to the establishment narrative. Ef that! I didn't wrt the "war on terror" and I don't intend to here. I will stick to the facts and let the propaganda about "treason" in this matter to hacks like you.
 
Something you're a coward to call anyone to their face
the day will arrive when you can't hide behind a monitor and call Veterans that

When tapped on the shoulder by someone you will shit in your Panties

You think he’s going to engage in violence?
 
In his mind he does, and anyone who understands the historical facts correctly knows why.

He attacked Ukraine, not the USA or even a NATO ally, so how can being honest about the facts leading up to the war be considered "treason?" After all your babbling, it obviously cannot. But you persist anyway because my real "treasonous" act is not subscribing to the establishment narrative. Ef that! I didn't wrt the "war on terror" and I don't intend to here. I will stick to the facts and let the propaganda about "treason" in this matter to hacks like you.

Sane patriots don’t care if Putin thinks “in his mind” he had cause to viciously attack Ukraine and engage in his war crimes. There is no such justification. And Ukraine is the proxy nation of the US and NATO in the war against Russia. That’s why it’s treasonous for you and your ilk to undermine your country and defend Putin.
 
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