Queen Titania
Senator
the consiquences would be.
A for the Middle East
B for America
C for the World as we know it.
A for the Middle East
B for America
C for the World as we know it.
If Israel bombs Iran. What do you think
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Wulk
Mayor
Depends on a lot of factors, Queenie. Just read an article that Israel expects only 300 casualties if they attack Iran, most of them from Hezbollah - a very optimistic outlook, imho. http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Po...n-hezbollah-syria-iran-war.ashx#axzz22Tr6KHWR
Russia, China, and Pakistan have stated that they will weigh in, on the Iranian side, if Israel attacks Iran - a possibility for a nuclear WWIII. An ex-Mossad chief has stated that Israel may attack Iran within the next 12 weeks - http://news.antiwar.com/2012/08/02/...e-very-worried-about-attack-in-next-12-weeks/
Would there be a backlash against world Jewry if Israel attacks? Possible.
There are so many negatives against an Israeli attack on Iran, no positivies. Most experts seem to agree that if Iran is attacked, then, it will force it into taking up a nuclear weapons programme - it's like accusing a kid of doing something that he/she hasn't done, so, they go and do it anyway.
I don't know if America would get involved.. Perhaps Obama will exercise some commonsense and tell Israel that if it attacks Iran it's on its own - no help, or involvement, from the US, in any way, shape, or form - doubtful, but, you never know!
Russia, China, and Pakistan have stated that they will weigh in, on the Iranian side, if Israel attacks Iran - a possibility for a nuclear WWIII. An ex-Mossad chief has stated that Israel may attack Iran within the next 12 weeks - http://news.antiwar.com/2012/08/02/...e-very-worried-about-attack-in-next-12-weeks/
Would there be a backlash against world Jewry if Israel attacks? Possible.
There are so many negatives against an Israeli attack on Iran, no positivies. Most experts seem to agree that if Iran is attacked, then, it will force it into taking up a nuclear weapons programme - it's like accusing a kid of doing something that he/she hasn't done, so, they go and do it anyway.
I don't know if America would get involved.. Perhaps Obama will exercise some commonsense and tell Israel that if it attacks Iran it's on its own - no help, or involvement, from the US, in any way, shape, or form - doubtful, but, you never know!
Queen Titania
Senator
One of those letters in the Independent was interesting .....................That Irans retaliation would be not to bomb Israel but too bomb the Gulfs Oil infrstrutures and block the Seas .....vroom bye bye Middle Easts oil ?
Can't remember where it was now ? lol I'll have a little looky see ..........
It was the face of America one ......
Well said!! You summed up what we all think to be the case about the "special relation" with the US! Sadly, they are still the more powerful country and the rest of the world will suffer for it! As for the US undying (and blind) support for Israel it is making the whole of the Middle East to suffer! The destruction and the sectarian battles of Syria were designed not for regime change but, only to weaken Iran so the US and their masters the Israelis will bomb Iran. If by remote chance those on Capitol Hill try to put their thinking caps on only just for few seconds they will come to the conclusion that the Iranians are not going to bomb Israel in retaliation for being bombed but, they'll do it nearer to home by destroying the oil instulations in the Gulf States and no amount of foreign power will be able to save them. I lived in the Gulf and know how vulnerable they are and what about blocking navigation in the Gulf itself. The whole venture will make Iraq looks like a Scouts Camp Party!
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion...s-8002060.html
I'm not too good on scientic speak but from what I have read Iran making nuclear bombs, though not impossible, is highly unikely because of the way the do what the do to get the nuclear umph ......too much gas I think ;-)
Can't remember where it was now ? lol I'll have a little looky see ..........
It was the face of America one ......
Well said!! You summed up what we all think to be the case about the "special relation" with the US! Sadly, they are still the more powerful country and the rest of the world will suffer for it! As for the US undying (and blind) support for Israel it is making the whole of the Middle East to suffer! The destruction and the sectarian battles of Syria were designed not for regime change but, only to weaken Iran so the US and their masters the Israelis will bomb Iran. If by remote chance those on Capitol Hill try to put their thinking caps on only just for few seconds they will come to the conclusion that the Iranians are not going to bomb Israel in retaliation for being bombed but, they'll do it nearer to home by destroying the oil instulations in the Gulf States and no amount of foreign power will be able to save them. I lived in the Gulf and know how vulnerable they are and what about blocking navigation in the Gulf itself. The whole venture will make Iraq looks like a Scouts Camp Party!
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion...s-8002060.html
I'm not too good on scientic speak but from what I have read Iran making nuclear bombs, though not impossible, is highly unikely because of the way the do what the do to get the nuclear umph ......too much gas I think ;-)
GordonGecko
President
IF...the nightmare scenario occurs?....okay, let's all get good and depressed and then go out later and "get pissed" (British slang) to take our minds off it---
1. It turns into a regional war. Iran goes full-tilt in counter-response backing Hezbollah with everything they need. The Iranian Air Force and Navy begin attacking every tanker in the Gulf....when they are destroyed (by NATO/US/whatever forces)....they resort to "TNT-laden speed boats".
Oil shoots throught the roof that makes the 1973 and 1979 oil crises look like "39 cent a gallon" 1950s. European gas prices triple or quadruple. American prices (linked to the world supply, even through Canada and Mexico) follow shortly. $7 a gallon in the US, probably a conservative estimate.
2 and 3- Europe goes into a death-spiral of economic depression. Again, to analogize, makes the 1930s look like the 1960s. As Europe goes...so goes China, Japan, Indo-Asia, Australia, South America and .....us (US).
Within three months, EU unemployment from Greece to Ireland, from Portugal to Poland....hits 25-30%. Again, the good ol' US follows soon after to atleast 15-20%
Wanna really send yourself into funk that all the bitters in the world won't cure.....watch it-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6butfe1f9Hg
Time-stamp 2:00 is when it really gets "fun".
1. It turns into a regional war. Iran goes full-tilt in counter-response backing Hezbollah with everything they need. The Iranian Air Force and Navy begin attacking every tanker in the Gulf....when they are destroyed (by NATO/US/whatever forces)....they resort to "TNT-laden speed boats".
Oil shoots throught the roof that makes the 1973 and 1979 oil crises look like "39 cent a gallon" 1950s. European gas prices triple or quadruple. American prices (linked to the world supply, even through Canada and Mexico) follow shortly. $7 a gallon in the US, probably a conservative estimate.
2 and 3- Europe goes into a death-spiral of economic depression. Again, to analogize, makes the 1930s look like the 1960s. As Europe goes...so goes China, Japan, Indo-Asia, Australia, South America and .....us (US).
Within three months, EU unemployment from Greece to Ireland, from Portugal to Poland....hits 25-30%. Again, the good ol' US follows soon after to atleast 15-20%
Wanna really send yourself into funk that all the bitters in the world won't cure.....watch it-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6butfe1f9Hg
Time-stamp 2:00 is when it really gets "fun".
Wulk
Mayor
$7 a gallon, try $20, or even $30. If Israel attacks Iran, do they consider what may happen to the 25k Jews living in Iran, or, is it only Israeli jews that they are concerned about?
What if Israel is getting defeated, and decide to exercise their "Sampson Option"? How many Israeli nuclear missiles are pointed at the US? I'll tell you three targets that they will have: Mecca, the Vatican, and, of course Tehran. I don't know about the Catholics, but, imho, just about every Muslim will be out to kill every Jew they can get their hands on.
What if Israel is getting defeated, and decide to exercise their "Sampson Option"? How many Israeli nuclear missiles are pointed at the US? I'll tell you three targets that they will have: Mecca, the Vatican, and, of course Tehran. I don't know about the Catholics, but, imho, just about every Muslim will be out to kill every Jew they can get their hands on.
Queen Titania
Senator
Well unless people vote in a person because they are sure that person will NOT keep their promises ...............people will vote with this happening in mind .won't they ?
make mine a pint
make mine a pint
Queen Titania
Senator
LOL .............I haven't had any of that for ages ...we are all so poor at the mo
A pint of bitter ...how about you ?
A pint of bitter ...how about you ?
Days
Commentator
If Israel bombs Iran. What do you think
the consiquences would be.
A for the Middle East
ALL OUT WAR, EVERY NATION IN THE ENTIRE REGION WOULD HAVE THEIR HITLER MOMENT, IOW, REALIZE THEY ARE INEVITABLY NEXT
B for America
FINANCIAL COLLAPSE... OUR CENTRAL BANK WILL LAUNCH FINANCIAL GENOCIDE AGAINST THE NATION, SAME AS THE EUROPEAN CENTRAL BANK IS DOING TO NATIONS IN EUROPE
C for the World as we know it.
GREAT TRIBULATION AND MASS STARVATION.
it isn't a pretty picture
the consiquences would be.
A for the Middle East
ALL OUT WAR, EVERY NATION IN THE ENTIRE REGION WOULD HAVE THEIR HITLER MOMENT, IOW, REALIZE THEY ARE INEVITABLY NEXT
B for America
FINANCIAL COLLAPSE... OUR CENTRAL BANK WILL LAUNCH FINANCIAL GENOCIDE AGAINST THE NATION, SAME AS THE EUROPEAN CENTRAL BANK IS DOING TO NATIONS IN EUROPE
C for the World as we know it.
GREAT TRIBULATION AND MASS STARVATION.
it isn't a pretty picture
Friday13
Governor
All this because Israel doesn't want Iran to have what they have...nuclear ANYTHING. Israel reportedly has over 250 nuclear warheads that they refuse to allow anyone to inspect and that US undoubtedly paid for. Inspections are being carried out in Iran. Seems to me that Israel is the 'rogue state'. The 'special relationship' with US is that we give them $$$ and they say "[Unwelcome language removed] you".
Queen Titania
Senator
For many reasons, not least the proccesses they use, it is highly unlikey that Iran has or ever had any intention of making nuclear weapons.. Israeli and the US bods have even admitted this and yet .....they have applied even more sanctions apon Iran ?! They can do nothing right, they are trapped in a web of others lies and inuendos.. Not even allowed to have modern Medical equipment with out every one throwing up their arms in horror.
Yup Israel refuses to allow inspecters in. Iran has not refused, not ever, only asked that the Inspecters tell them where they want to look before hand
Dreadful isn't it ? We look back into History and see what we now perceive as wicked imbalances nought has changed
Queen Titania
Senator
Nope it isn't..........100 or even 300 year war with modern weapons !
NightSwimmer
Senator
Oh, if only we could go back to those glorious days before we invented war. Perhaps we wouldn't be quite so hopeless.
Sigh...
Sigh...
Queen Titania
Senator
That sort of attitude doesn't help !
Is all I can say ......................
Is all I can say ......................
NightSwimmer
Senator
It's never going to stop overnight. That's all I'm saying. We just have to trudge on...
Keep your hand on the plough.
Keep your hand on the plough.
Boltlady
Governor
What you say is true except for the first sentence. The nuclear 'fears' are all a scam to try and take over more of the ME. They know full well that Iran isn't building a nuke which would be nothing anyway compared to what Israel has. It's just something that seems to sound good to the public.
The reality is that Israel isn't going to bomb Iran unless they're very sure that we're right behind them. That way they can move out of the way and let us do all the fighting. They seem to keep trying to get us to go first anyway.
