Incoming NRA leader proves me right.

[Spamature]

6 mos ago I posted this.

No difference between 2nd Amend advocates and criminals

Or at least none as for as I can see. Any sane person who says they need guns to protect themselves from the govt are not talking about shooting them at the US military. Because any sane person knows they would not have a chance in hell against the US military. Which mean they are talking about using those weapons against law enforcement officials. How is that any different than a drug dealer or gangster's reasoning for having a gun ? These are just people who want go about their business without interference from and defend themselves against the very same govt. officials 2nd Amend advocates believe they have a right to defend themselves against.

Mind you some of us have a very different opinion as to how we should approach what we think is overstepping of boundaries by our govt. Most of us think that is the province of our legislative, judicial and electoral systems. We don't think our law enforcement officials should be fired upon by the citizens in the line of duty. So I ask, what are we to think of people who openly say they are stockpiling weapons with the expressed purpose of using them against law enforcement other than either criminals or potential terrorist

He says this:

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I am one who still feels very strongly that that is one of our most greatest charges that we can have today, is to train the civilian in the use of the standard military firearm, so that when they have to fight for their country they’re ready to do it. Also, when they’re ready to fight tyranny, they’re ready to do it. Also, when they’re ready to fight tyranny, they have the wherewithal and the weapons to do it.

Now his anti law enforcement animosity almost admittedly stems from the enforcement of laws prohibiting White people from owning Black people. Which is pretty ironic in light of the anti tyranny claim.

 

[JuliefromOhio]

excellent post.

the NRA needs to be put on the govt watch list.

 

[NightSwimmer]

They truly have exposed themselves as an organization of extremist radicals today.

 

[KnotaFrayed]

6 mos ago I posted this.




He says this:

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Now his anti law enforcement animosity almost admittedly stems from the enforcement of laws prohibiting White people from owning Black people. Which is pretty ironic in light of the anti tyranny claim.

What's the best way and most effective means for fighting a tyrannical government?

"if the persons intrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair".

"In this situation there must be a peculiar coincidence of circumstances to insure success to the popular resistance."

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed28.asp

 

[Zoar]

Libertarians and Right Wingers join arm in arm with their current cry that "we" must go to war with our government. They fail to say what Spam brought to light: they need to say aloud "We will fight the United states Military AND US Law Enforcement individuals.

Like THEY are going to fight the US Military and US Law Enforcement! ...It Ain't gonna' happen!

Liberatarians and Right Wingers toot on the same foolish horn in their provocation to take on the United States with its military and law enforcement. We need to ask their leaders if they recognize who they are taking on when they utter their philosophic only threats.

 

[Wahbooz]

One will see how well their fight goes for them.

 

[Zoar]

One will see how well their fight goes for them.

They try to install the imagine of shooting at a frail Nancy Pelosi as "opposing government" rather than the reality which is going to war with the US Military and US Law Enforcement.

The magnitude of such an undertaking would lead any rational, sane person to admit absurdity.

 

[JuliefromOhio]

the NRA now known as the National Republican Army.

 

[Mytzlplk]

well, the 2nd amendment does have its origins in making sure that slave rebellions could be put down, and the founding fathers in no way thought about the tyranny angle, and would consider their rhetoric treasonous.

 

[Spamature]

What's the best way and most effective means for fighting a tyrannical government?

"if the persons intrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair".

"In this situation there must be a peculiar coincidence of circumstances to insure success to the popular resistance."

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed28.asp

From the next paragraph:

"But in a confederacy the people, without exaggeration, may be said to be entirely the masters of their own fate. Power being almost always the rival of power, the general government will at all times stand ready to check the usurpations of the state governments, and these will have the same disposition towards the general government. The people, by throwing themselves into either scale, will infallibly make it preponderate. If their rights are invaded by either, they can make use of the other as the instrument of redress. How wise will it be in them by cherishing the union to preserve to themselves an advantage which can never be too highly prized!"

 

[trapdoor]

Now his anti law enforcement animosity almost admittedly stems from the enforcement of laws prohibiting White people from owning Black people. Which is pretty ironic in light of the anti tyranny claim.

Simply a lie. Some of the first gun control laws were put in place to keep blacks from owning guns.