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Infrastructure NOW

Bo-4

Bo-4

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Pugs are pretty dumb. They'd rather fix stuff when it fails completely at 10 times the cost rather than simply replacing crumbling old crap and creating millions of jobs in the process (can't have that.. more important to get rid of Obama!).

Ancient water mains? Bah- Just fix them one section at a time when they break and tie up traffic for hours on end. Bridges? Meh- wait until they collapse and kill a bunch of people instead of maintaining them. Schools? Hell- they'll end public education anyway and if you can't afford 30 grand a year for Middlesex, Hotchkiss or Cranbrook then just put your high-schooler to work on your family ranch for Pete's sake.

Erza Klein needs his own show. Hey MSNBC.. trade ya an Ed AND a Lawrence for one Erza ... otay? :D

*Suggest watching the entire show.. but the opening infrastructure segment is priceless.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#47790612
 
Yeah. I know. More spending money we don't have. More non-profits. More government. Less private sector. Hello, can you say Greece?
 
Bo-4 said:
Pugs are pretty dumb. They'd rather fix stuff when it fails completely at 10 times the cost rather than simply replacing crumbling old crap and creating millions of jobs in the process (can't have that.. more important to get rid of Obama!).

Ancient water mains? Bah- Just fix them one section at a time when they break and tie up traffic for hours on end. Bridges? Meh- wait until they collapse and kill a bunch of people instead of maintaining them. Schools? Hell- they'll end public education anyway and if you can't afford 30 grand a year for Middlesex, Hotchkiss or Cranbrook then just put your high-schooler to work on your family ranch for Pete's sake.

Erza Klein needs his own show. Hey MSNBC.. trade ya an Ed AND a Lawrence for one Erza ... otay? :D

*Suggest watching the entire show.. but the opening infrastructure segment is priceless.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#47790612
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I understand Inhoffe is joining with Boxer on the bill. Seems both sides are finally figuring something must be done.
 
Lukey said:
Yeah. I know. More spending money we don't have. More non-profits. More government. Less private sector. Hello, can you say Greece?
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Cool, we'll put you down for being against borrowing money at a cost of next to nothing, creating millions of jobs, and goosing the economy in the process.

Lukey will be happy to let our entire infrastructure crumble and fix it at 10 times the cost piecemeal (as long as he can get rid of Obama).
 
Bo-4 said:
Cool, we'll put you down for being against borrowing money at a cost of next to nothing, creating millions of jobs, and goosing the economy in the process.

Lukey will be happy to let our entire infrastructure crumble and fix it at 10 times the cost piecemeal (as long as he can get rid of Obama).
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As long as we get back to a (reduced) bureaucratic size level and an economic growth rate that can support it...
 
Lukey said:
As long as we get back to a (reduced) bureaucratic size level and an economic growth rate that can support it...
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I wouldn't vote you into Congress. You'd be just like the rest of 'em on your side of the aisle.
 
Lukey said:
Yeah. You got me pegged. I'm a capitalist.
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We're all capitalists Lukey.. stop pretending otherwise. The difference is that you believe in capitalism with no rules.. none.. a return to all the crap that nearly killed our country.
 
No, we don't need to say Greece, but in a Romney presidency, that's where we'll end up.

I know that you didn't bother to follow the link or listen to the arguments FOR infrastructure investments.

You cons would rather let the nation fall apart around you and revel in the comfort of having given yet another tax cut to the "job creators".

Maybe we can all get jobs as pool boys at their Hampton's beach houses, since that's where the "job creators" seem to be putting their money.

Virtually every task that will be performed in rebuilding or expanding our infrastructure will be done by private engineering firms, contractors and material suppliers.

That's a lot of private sector jobs.

And the cost of it?

It's a matter of pay now or pay much more later. (paying much more later seems to be the preferred GOP choice).

And with interest rates of US government debt at around 1.5% and FALLING, we're borrowing at the lowest possible price.

Now is definately the time to buy, particularly when what we are buying will pay big dividends in the future.

The GOP seems to prefer the vulture capitalist approach, which is why they have one as their Presidential candidate.

Over the last thirty years the GOP approach has been VERY consistant. They have talked the fiscal conservative game, but worked to pump up the economy through tricks and speculation, and then loaded it down with debt. The people are happy for the time being because they're in a boom (albeit an artificial one).

But, while the boom is going on, the government and the banking system are saddling themselves with risky debt.

When the house of cards collapses, as it did in 2008, they've taken thier winnings off the table, and then they turn around and blame the cleanup crew.

I've seen this cycle repeated twice in the last thirty years. I don't want to see it again!
 
Bo-4 said:
We're all capitalists Lukey.. stop pretending otherwise. The difference is that you believe in capitalism with no rules.. none.. a return to all the crap that nearly killed our country.
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And you believe in capitalism with no...capitalism...none...with no profitable enterprises - just non-profits and government agencies.
 
Lukey said:
And you believe in capitalism with no...capitalism...none...with no profitable enterprises - just non-profits and government agencies.
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You didn't DENY what he said, Lukey. That you want "no rules" to capitalism except "illegalities" (but naturally none of those illegalities should be applied to protect workers, consumers, or the general public...right?)
 
GordonGecko said:
You didn't DENY what he said, Lukey. That you want "no rules" to capitalism except "illegalities" (but naturally none of those illegalities should be applied to protect workers, consumers, or the general public...right?)
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Pretty much.. Lukey's all about Wall Street run wild, a return to sub-prime, filthy Koch air, and abolishment of the EPA!
 
LeRoy_Was_Here said:
Lukey: I'm a capitalist.

LeRoy: I say you're either a feudalist or an anarchist. Or some weird mixture of the two.
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Yep, Lukey's for anything that will eliminate the middle class and government as anything but law enforcement to protect the rich from poor people wanting to take their stuff.
 
Pugs are pretty dumb. They'd rather fix stuff when it fails completely at 10 times the cost rather than simply replacing crumbling old crap and creating millions of jobs in the process (can't have that.. more important to get rid of Obama!).
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they're penny-wise and pound-foolish.
 
Bo-4: Lukey's for anything that will eliminate the middle class and government as anything but law enforcement to protect the rich from poor people wanting to take their stuff.

LeRoy: But he doesn't even want to pay the cops he would need a middle-class salary. They'd be poor, too. [So why would they want to defend and protect the rich from the poor???]
 
Lukey said:
Yeah. I know. More spending money we don't have...
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This is false, the avg home buyer borrows up to 300% yearly gross income America is around 110% with around 50% in international debt

...More non-profits. More government...
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If you support Mitt rMoney then you're for more government, Mitt as promised to increase the size of the military.

... Less private sector. Hello, can you say Greece?
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The top 10% i greece don't pay their fair share of taxes and the burden is on the middle class earners...

Remind you of something?

Thx

This is false
 
Bull$hit. When Bush tried to reign in the mortgage banking industry.....during the last two years of his presidency in which the socialist DemocRats held 2/3 control....he was ridiculed and silenced by Barney Frank and that commie b-itch Maxine Waters...and ergo, the regulations didn't get passed, which resulted in the mortgage industry CRASH.

As usual.... the idiot left creates the problems and then proceeds to blame it on any and everyone ELSE.

Bo-4 said:
We're all capitalists Lukey.. stop pretending otherwise. The difference is that you believe in capitalism with no rules.. none.. a return to all the crap that nearly killed our country.
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