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Arkady

Arkady

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It's amazing how fast e-commerce responds to events, these days. A day ago, Elizabeth Warren was silenced for daring to read the words of Coretta King in her argument against confirmation of Sessions as AG. The Republican leadership invoked an obscure rule that, if applied in this situation, would essentially make it impossible to speak out against any appointee by any president, if the appointee is presently a senator, since it's forbidden to speak negatively of a senator's conduct. McConnell, in defending his outrageous gag order, spoke of how Warren had been warned, and "nevertheless she persisted" (apparently oblivious to the irony that his criticism of Warren would, itself, be a violation of the rule). Anyway, it took less than 24 hours for "nevertheless she persisted" to be a tag-line on social media and on t-shirts:

https://www.google.com/webhp?source...q=nevertheless+she+persisted+t-shirt&tbm=shop

ra,womens_tshirt,x3104,fafafa:ca443f4786,front-c,650,630,900,975-bg,f8f8f8.jpg

They probably haven't even printed the shirts up, yet, but some quick-thinking business-people immediately realized that McConnell's statement were be a rallying cry for feminists, and they didn't want to miss the boat.
 
Why must you post easily refuted bullshit? She wasn't silenced for reading a letter, she was silenced for denigrating a sitting Senator. A CLEAR VIOLATION of Senate rules.

Try, for once, try to be honest with yourself.
 
Corruptbuddha said:
Why must you post easily refuted bullshit? She wasn't silenced for reading a letter, she was silenced for denigrating a sitting Senator. A CLEAR VIOLATION of Senate rules.

Try, for once, try to be honest with yourself.
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Yet...the letter was read on the Senate floor this morning...4 times, I believe.

None of those Senators were "red carded"...
 
Arkady said:
It's amazing how fast e-commerce responds to events, these days. A day ago, Elizabeth Warren was silenced for daring to read the words of Coretta King in her argument against confirmation of Sessions as AG. The Republican leadership invoked an obscure rule that, if applied in this situation, would essentially make it impossible to speak out against any appointee by any president, if the appointee is presently a senator, since it's forbidden to speak negatively of a senator's conduct. McConnell, in defending his outrageous gag order, spoke of how Warren had been warned, and "nevertheless she persisted" (apparently oblivious to the irony that his criticism of Warren would, itself, be a violation of the rule). Anyway, it took less than 24 hours for "nevertheless she persisted" to be a tag-line on social media and on t-shirts:

https://www.google.com/webhp?source...q=nevertheless+she+persisted+t-shirt&tbm=shop

ra,womens_tshirt,x3104,fafafa:ca443f4786,front-c,650,630,900,975-bg,f8f8f8.jpg

They probably haven't even printed the shirts up, yet, but some quick-thinking business-people immediately realized that McConnell's statement were be a rallying cry for feminists, and they didn't want to miss the boat.
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Indeed, there is a sucker born every minute.....
 
when your opponent is on fire, don't hand him/her a fire extinguisher. warren should have been allowed to speak. the GOP should do everything possible to have the party perceive her as their sole voice, in order for them (the GOP) to remain in power. she's an anathema to centrists, taxpayers, savers, investors, and small business owners.
 
Craig said:
Yet...the letter was read on the Senate floor this morning...4 times, I believe.

None of those Senators were "red carded"...
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They should have been. They violated the same rule. That's the problem with the GOP, even when they're right, they're spineless.
 
Arkady said:
It's amazing how fast e-commerce responds to events, these days. A day ago, Elizabeth Warren was silenced for daring to read the words of Coretta King in her argument against confirmation of Sessions as AG. The Republican leadership invoked an obscure rule that, if applied in this situation, would essentially make it impossible to speak out against any appointee by any president, if the appointee is presently a senator, since it's forbidden to speak negatively of a senator's conduct. McConnell, in defending his outrageous gag order, spoke of how Warren had been warned, and "nevertheless she persisted" (apparently oblivious to the irony that his criticism of Warren would, itself, be a violation of the rule). Anyway, it took less than 24 hours for "nevertheless she persisted" to be a tag-line on social media and on t-shirts:

https://www.google.com/webhp?source...q=nevertheless+she+persisted+t-shirt&tbm=shop

ra,womens_tshirt,x3104,fafafa:ca443f4786,front-c,650,630,900,975-bg,f8f8f8.jpg

They probably haven't even printed the shirts up, yet, but some quick-thinking business-people immediately realized that McConnell's statement were be a rallying cry for feminists, and they didn't want to miss the boat.
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Kind of like Hillary's "Deplorables" faux Pas, except on a much smaller scale. Hell, that one caught on like wildfire, and helped lose that clod an election.
 
Corruptbuddha said:
Why must you post easily refuted bullshit? She wasn't silenced for reading a letter, she was silenced for denigrating a sitting Senator. A CLEAR VIOLATION of Senate rules.

Try, for once, try to be honest with yourself.
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You misunderstood. Try rereading.
 
Corruptbuddha said:
They should have been. They violated the same rule. That's the problem with the GOP, even when they're right, they're spineless.
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Can we also silence McConnell then? His statements on Warren amounted to commenting negatively on the conduct of a senator, which is a violation of the rule. Also, just for the sake of consistency, can we go back into the record and retroactively censure the Republicans who took pot shots at senators Clinton and Kerry during their hearings?
 
Dino said:
Kind of like Hillary's "Deplorables" faux Pas, except on a much smaller scale. Hell, that one caught on like wildfire, and helped lose that clod an election.
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No. Clinton's polling numbers went up in the wake of the deplorables comment. It pissed off the halfwits and the sub-human scum who were embarrassed to realize that people recognized how deplorable they were, but they already supported Trump, so it made no difference what they thought. There's no evidence it shifted overall public opinion.
 
marvin martian said:
I'll buy you one. Size small, right? It'll look great with your pussy hat.
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XXL. I could probably get away with a large, but those tend to be pretty tight on the biceps for me, so I prefer something roomy. Regarding the hat, I like the idea of wearing one. I'm reminded of the immortal words of Hoban Wash:

Man walks down the street in that hat, people know he's not afraid of anything.

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Arkady said:
No. Clinton's polling numbers went up in the wake of the deplorables comment. It pissed off the halfwits and the sub-human scum who were embarrassed to realize that people recognized how deplorable they were, but they already supported Trump, so it made no difference what they thought. There's no evidence it shifted overall public opinion.
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Polling numbers? It increased turnout against her.
Which do you think was more important?

And of course then there's THE TRUTH...from Hillary's apology to this gem...

http://iotwreport.com/robby-mook-finally-admits-hillarys-deplorables-comment-alienated-voters/

Robby Mook Finally Admits Hillary’s ‘Deplorables’ Comment Alienated Voters

December 5, 2016 MJA Uncategorized 22

DC: Hillary Clinton likely alienated voters when she said on the campaign trail in September that half of Donald Trump’s supporters were “deplorables,” her campaign manager has finally acknowledged.
 
Arkady said:
Can we also silence McConnell then? His statements on Warren amounted to commenting negatively on the conduct of a senator, which is a violation of the rule. Also, just for the sake of consistency, can we go back into the record and retroactively censure the Republicans who took pot shots at senators Clinton and Kerry during their hearings?
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If the Senate didn't invoke the rule in prior sessions, that's on them. But in this case she was in flagrant violation of said rule and was 'red carded' appropriately.

Rules are put in place for a reason, no?
 
Corruptbuddha said:
What I've done is show Warren to be a whiny candy-ass. And a violator of Senate rules.
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You've done nothing of the sort. In addition...we all agree the rules were violated, which you seem to forget. The rarity of the invocation of the rule was what we were discussing, if you can recall that far back.

Regardless, the real tale is that McConnell and the GOP allowed 4 male Dem Senators to read the letter on the floor, showing himself and the GOP to be sexist hypocrites.

This would be a non-story had McConnell not tried to silence Warren.
 
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