Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III

[John T]

Especially Bugsy.

He's so bad I normally don't bother to reply.

I have really seen many Leftist that were able to discuss politics.

It's almost always the same regurgitation of fake news.

 

[EatTheRich]

The theory - Karl Marx penned - makes sense.
The practice - Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin - is nothing anybody wants.

I don't think the world has ever seen a truly socialist system.

I think the practice of Lenin and Trotsky was the theory of Marx applied under real-world conditions (complete with the inevitable mistakes) in a backward, superstitious peasant-majority country with a tiny working class and an autocratic history, in the face of the hostility of the entire capitalist world.

Stalin’s regime in practice was a drastic departure from Marx’s theory, consistent with the counterrevolution that displaced workers as masters of the government with a bureaucratic middle-class layer.

 

[EatTheRich]

Through the state? who controls the state? You realize you are calling yourself a nazi fascist

Who controls the state is a practical question, since any given really existing socialist state represents a snapshot of a country in the midst of an ongoing class struggle in which workers have conquered political power in general, but not fully in all areas (in which case there would be no state).

In Lenin’s Russia, the state was controlled by soviets (elected councils of workers, soldiers, and peasants). Soviet rule seems to have been the best form of socialist democracy developed so far for the conditions of the past, but real-world considerations, in particular the strength of the counterrevolution in forcing socialists to compromise with the middle classes, has forced other sorts of regimes, such as the people’s republic, the constitutional republic, and the military-police dictatorship on other socialist countries.

We see the same with capitalism, which has historically exercised class rule via the widest variety of states ... the absolute monarchy, the military-police dictatorship, Jacobin dictatorship, constitutional republic, Bonapartist dictatorship, Kerenskyite dictatorship, fascist dictatorship, and Pol Potist dictatorship.

Just as the form of the capitalist state adapted to the needs of capitalist rule, and hence is more and more approaching the fascist dictatorship, so the form of the socialist state in the future will reflect the evolving practical needs of the working class.

Fascists support a market economy. That’s why the pope blessed the Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union as a defense of European capitalist civilization against communism.

 

[EatTheRich]

Wow...all of that as a result of private property rights? You are parked diagonally in a parallel universe. As was ET...but he went home.

Yes, that’s what private property rights for the ruling minority depend on and lead to in practice.

 

[Spamature]

So...Rosenstein recommended Trump fire Comey so he could call the cops on him? You may be right even if you don't make sense.

He had to after Trump ran his big mouth, and admitted to the reason Trump says he fired Comey.

 

[Boca]

He had to after Trump ran his big mouth, and admitted to the reason Trump says he fired Comey.

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Wow another creative statement. You're just full of 'em aren't ya?

Robert Mueller was appointed and the announcement made on May 17th. Trump made his remarks that night on the evening news after DC closed shop. It was a done deal.

But as I said before you were probably right. Rosenstein recommended firing Comey, and when he did, Rosenstein called the cops. Just another Deep State set up like Donald Jr's meeting with the Russian lawyer hottie. who promised something she didn't have! Why do that?

Why fly halfway around the world on your own dime, arrive on the day of a meeting of no value to you that lasted 20 minutes. Is it really necessary to ask you to think about that!

Almost forgot.....when Natalia arrived that day she entered the country on a "special immigration parole" visa signed by Loretta Lynch the only official by law that can do so.

And you don't believe there's a Deep State? If so you're treading water in the shallow end of the think tank.

 

[Constitutional Sheepdog]

Who controls the state is a practical question, since any given really existing socialist state represents a snapshot of a country in the midst of an ongoing class struggle in which workers have conquered political power in general, but not fully in all areas (in which case there would be no state).

In Lenin’s Russia, the state was controlled by soviets (elected councils of workers, soldiers, and peasants). Soviet rule seems to have been the best form of socialist democracy developed so far for the conditions of the past, but real-world considerations, in particular the strength of the counterrevolution in forcing socialists to compromise with the middle classes, has forced other sorts of regimes, such as the people’s republic, the constitutional republic, and the military-police dictatorship on other socialist countries.

We see the same with capitalism, which has historically exercised class rule via the widest variety of states ... the absolute monarchy, the military-police dictatorship, Jacobin dictatorship, constitutional republic, Bonapartist dictatorship, Kerenskyite dictatorship, fascist dictatorship, and Pol Potist dictatorship.

Just as the form of the capitalist state adapted to the needs of capitalist rule, and hence is more and more approaching the fascist dictatorship, so the form of the socialist state in the future will reflect the evolving practical needs of the working class.

Fascists support a market economy. That’s why the pope blessed the Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union as a defense of European capitalist civilization against communism.

What you don't get is there has to be someone in control to ensure everybody get's their fair share
And then who will control the one in control?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Yep ...

It was obvious right out of the gate Sessions was inept.

Reprogramming a Bull Dyke

We need a hardliner working for America the way Janet Reno worked for Antifa America.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

I disagree .....

I think he has been compromise.

He doesn't want Mueller and team kicking his door down a 4 am with guns blazing, bankrupting him, making him sell his house and going after his children.

Kind of easy to stay quite when facing that, wouldn't you think?

Elmer Fudd in a Witch-Hunter's Cap

That won't happen. The United States Attorney General is not some dime-a-dozen fly-by-night non-entity. Mueller is a bully who will never pick on someone his own size.

 

[John T]

Elmer Fudd in a Witch-Hunter's Cap

That won't happen. The United States Attorney General is not some dime-a-dozen fly-by-night non-entity. Mueller is a bully who will never pick on someone his own size.

What are you posting about ... Mueller is above the LAW

 

[EatTheRich]

What you don't get is there has to be someone in control to ensure everybody get's their fair share
And then who will control the one in control?

Lenin addressed this question in State and Revolution. Ultimately, what keeps the bureaucracy in a socialist state from developing its own interest antagonistic to that of the working class is the ongoing progress of the revolution (and, indeed, it is when the triumph of socialism stalls that the Stalinist dictatorship ... which will never again have the power that it had in the USSR ... is able to cement itself in place). Formally, this can be safeguarded with a right to recall officials, limits on officials’ pay and perks, and active recruitment of ordinary workers and peasants to learn and do administrative jobs.

 

[Constitutional Sheepdog]

Lenin addressed this question in State and Revolution. Ultimately, what keeps the bureaucracy in a socialist state from developing its own interest antagonistic to that of the working class is the ongoing progress of the revolution (and, indeed, it is when the triumph of socialism stalls that the Stalinist dictatorship ... which will never again have the power that it had in the USSR ... is able to cement itself in place). Formally, this can be safeguarded with a right to recall officials, limits on officials’ pay and perks, and active recruitment of ordinary workers and peasants to learn and do administrative jobs.

You want to use Lenin as an example?

Nope, you don't want equality you want a dictatorship.
Thing is you don't have the capability of being the dictator

 

[EatTheRich]

You want to use Lenin as an example?

Nope, you don't want equality you want a dictatorship.
Thing is you don't have the capability of being the dictator

Lenin wasn’t a dictator.

 

[Constitutional Sheepdog]

Lenin wasn’t a dictator.

WOW
how old are you? still in high school early 20's?

 

[EatTheRich]

WOW
how old are you? still in high school early 20's?

38, in grad school, and know the history of the Soviet Union a good sight better than you do.

 

[Constitutional Sheepdog]

38, in grad school, and know the history of the Soviet Union a good sight better than you do.

I'm older than you and will say you are misinformed about Russia and it's dictators.
What was the purpose of the iron curtain?

 

[EatTheRich]

I'm older than you and will say you are misinformed about Russia and it's dictators.
What was the purpose of the iron curtain?

The “iron curtain” was a propaganda term invented by Goebbels to attack the USSR.

 

[Constitutional Sheepdog]

The “iron curtain” was a propaganda term invented by Goebbels to attack the USSR.

No it wasn't propaganda it was real and they had armed guards ordered to shoot anyone attempting to leave.
I was there and saw it.

 

[EatTheRich]

No it wasn't propaganda it was real and they had armed guards ordered to shoot anyone attempting to leave.
I was there and saw it.

If you’re talking about the Berlin Wall, it was put in place decades after Lenin died, by a counter-revolutionary regime using E. German lives as pawns to extract concessions from the imperialist powers.

 

[Spamature]

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Wow another creative statement. You're just full of 'em aren't ya?

Robert Mueller was appointed and the announcement made on May 17th. Trump made his remarks that night on the evening news after DC closed shop. It was a done deal.

The Lester Holt interview was on May 11th 2017. His admission to the world in that interview is what triggered the need for a special counsel.

But as I said before you were probably right. Rosenstein recommended firing Comey, and when he did, Rosenstein called the cops. Just another Deep State set up like Donald Jr's meeting with the Russian lawyer hottie. who promised something she didn't have! Why do that?

Why fly halfway around the world on your own dime, arrive on the day of a meeting of no value to you that lasted 20 minutes. Is it really necessary to ask you to think about that!

So maybe the Russians were catfishing them, feeling them out to see if they would betray their country. And the Pep boys Manny, Don Jr, and Jared showed up ready to collude on behalf of the boss.

Almost forgot.....when Natalia arrived that day she entered the country on a "special immigration parole" visa signed by Loretta Lynch the only official by law that can do so.

And you don't believe there's a Deep State? If so you're treading water in the shallow end of the think tank.

Boy you'd think they'd using that meeting with the Russians during the election. Instead this so called Deep State sank the Clinton campaign days before the vote.
Why would they do that ? Because that still stands as the biggest stumbling block to these desperate Deep State conspiracy theories.