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Kilmar Ábrego García

Halo

Halo

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Kilmar pushed himself into this country. Bypassing throngs standing in line for the privilege to be considered an eligible entrant to the US. He then proceeded to anchor himself like a tick by fathering a child.

Kilmar comes from El Salvador. Mistake or not he is Salvadoran and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. We have no claim on him. A pretentious American judge has no authority to demand his return from a sovereign nation. If he was an ACTUAL citizen we would be able to make legal demands.

Here we see the meaning of subject to the jurisdiction of as it pertains to U.S. citizenship. The US government should leave him there to make the point. Sorry Kilmar but President Bukele made a very nice country you might want to stay in. Besides with no gangs in El Salvador Kilmar's asylee/refugee petition is moot. He can safely stay where he belongs. His dual national child can live with him and even his wife might choose to be with him.
 
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Halo said:
Kilmar pushed himself into this country. Bypassing throngs standing in line for the privilege to be considered an eligible entrant to the US. He then proceeded to anchor himself like a tick by fathering a child.

Kilmar comes from El Salvador. Mistake or not he is Salvadoran and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. We have no claim on him. A pretentious American judge has no authority to demand his return from a sovereign nation. If he was an ACTUAL citizen we would be able to make legal demands.

Here we see the meaning of subject to the jurisdiction of as it pertains to U.S. citizenship. The US government should leave him there to make the point. Sorry Kilmar but President Bukele made a very nice country you might want to stay in. Besides with no gangs in El Salvador Kilmar's asylee/refugee petition is moot. He can safely stay where he belongs. His dual national child can live with him and even his wife might choose to be with him.
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I guess he is once again El Salvador's problem, and not ours.
 
Halo said:
Kilmar pushed himself into this country. Bypassing throngs standing in line for the privilege to be considered an eligible entrant to the US. He then proceeded to anchor himself like a tick by fathering a child.

Kilmar comes from El Salvador. Mistake or not he is Salvadoran and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. We have no claim on him. A pretentious American judge has no authority to demand his return from a sovereign nation. If he was an ACTUAL citizen we would be able to make legal demands.

Here we see the meaning of subject to the jurisdiction of as it pertains to U.S. citizenship. The US government should leave him there to make the point. Sorry Kilmar but President Bukele made a very nice country you might want to stay in. Besides with no gangs in El Salvador Kilmar's asylee/refugee petition is moot. He can safely stay where he belongs. His dual national child can live with him and even his wife might choose to be with him.
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The U.S. is a signatory to the Refugee Convention under which he has a right not to be sent back to a country he fled to escape being tortured for refusing to join a gang and under which he had a right to enter the U.S. to assert his valid asylum claim. Courts aren’t supposed to radically alter the law to suit the convenience of the ruling politicians.
 
EatTheRich said:
The U.S. is a signatory to the Refugee Convention under which he has a right not to be sent back to a country he fled to escape being tortured for refusing to join a gang and under which he had a right to enter the U.S. to assert his valid asylum claim. Courts aren’t supposed to radically alter the law to suit the convenience of the ruling politicians.
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He was a member of MS13, two courts determined that. He's home, and what they do with him is their business.
 
EatTheRich said:
That is a lie. No court determined that. A court did prohibit the government from sending to El Salvador, meaning that when they did so anyway, they committed kidnapping, false imprisonment, and human trafficking.
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www.independentsentinel.com

The Truth About Abrego Garcia: Two Courts Said He's MS-13

Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia, who was allegedly accidentally sent to an El Salvador prison, has fans in the media, including CNN and the New York Times. They can’t believe he was in MS-13 since he says he wasn’t. So, if you deny it and the narrative works, the media will rescue you. Considering...
www.independentsentinel.com www.independentsentinel.com

Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia, who was allegedly accidentally sent to an El Salvador prison, has fans in the media, including CNN and the New York Times. They can’t believe he was in MS-13 since he says he wasn’t. So, if you deny it and the narrative works, the media will rescue you.

In 2019, an immigration judge, not a right-wing one, found that the evidence showed Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia was a verified member of MS-13 based on a “past proven and reliable source of information” who had verified that Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia had gang membership, gang rank, and gang name.
 
Zam-Zam said:
I guess he is once again El Salvador's problem, and not ours.
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Presumably he's not a problem. He wasn't found twice eligible for deportation. His "wife" didn't file domestic violence complaints. His fear of gangs in El Salvador wasn't a lie. He's all clear.... to stay home in El Salvador... or at least out of the U.S. I'm looking forward to his wife and child who love him so very much move to El Salvador to be with him.
 
EatTheRich said:
The U.S. is a signatory to the Refugee Convention under which he has a right not to be sent back to a country he fled to escape being tortured for refusing to join a gang and under which he had a right to enter the U.S. to assert his valid asylum claim. Courts aren’t supposed to radically alter the law to suit the convenience of the ruling politicians.
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El Salvador has been cleansed of gang violence. Kilmar is safe at home now.

He has no rights. He is an illegal alien. Twice determined eligible for deportation. He was determined to be an enemy combatant. The Trump admin gets to treat him like one. They deported him to a country were the gangs are no longer a threat to him.
 
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Colorforms said:
www.independentsentinel.com

The Truth About Abrego Garcia: Two Courts Said He's MS-13

Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia, who was allegedly accidentally sent to an El Salvador prison, has fans in the media, including CNN and the New York Times. They can’t believe he was in MS-13 since he says he wasn’t. So, if you deny it and the narrative works, the media will rescue you. Considering...
www.independentsentinel.com www.independentsentinel.com

Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia, who was allegedly accidentally sent to an El Salvador prison, has fans in the media, including CNN and the New York Times. They can’t believe he was in MS-13 since he says he wasn’t. So, if you deny it and the narrative works, the media will rescue you.

In 2019, an immigration judge, not a right-wing one, found that the evidence showed Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia was a verified member of MS-13 based on a “past proven and reliable source of information” who had verified that Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia had gang membership, gang rank, and gang name.
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In other words, a judge took notice that a snitch called him an MS-13 member (weird because the legal rationale for the order barring deportation was based on a legal finding that if he were in El Salvador he would be tortured by MS-13 for refusing to join). That is not the same as a guilty verdict by a court.
 
Zam-Zam said:
It seems as of now he is under El Salvadoran authority.

Since he is not a U.S. citizen, and he is not in the U.S., this doesn't appear to be a U.S. problem.
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The issue is that if the government is going to send people to a Salvadoran concentration camp in blatant defiance of a court order, it can do it to anyone.
 
EatTheRich said:
In other words, a judge took notice that a snitch called him an MS-13 member (weird because the legal rationale for the order barring deportation was based on a legal finding that if he were in El Salvador he would be tortured by MS-13 for refusing to join). That is not the same as a guilty verdict by a court.
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So he's just a run of the mill wife beater and not an actual gang member? Well then lets bring him back and let him beat some more women, amirite?
 
Raoul_Luke said:
So he's just a run of the mill wife beater and not an actual gang member? Well then lets bring him back and let him beat some more women, amirite?
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Huh? He had no U.S. criminal record. Anyway, getting sent to a camp where according to the director people go in but don’t come out isn’t a reasonable punishment for any crime.
 
EatTheRich said:
Huh? He had no U.S. criminal record. Anyway, getting sent to a camp where according to the director people go in but don’t come out isn’t a reasonable punishment for any crime.
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Sounds like the Clintons operate that place (apologies for speaking ill of your DNC peeps).
 
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