Let me try a simple example...

[Lukey]

Here in Pennsylvania, we pay a 2.8% income tax. And we also pay a 6% state sales tax. Would anyone on the left want to try and make the case that my total tax obligation to Pennsylvania is "only" 2.8%?

That's exactly what you do when you say Mitt Romney's tax rate to the IRS is "only" 13.9%. The companies he has invested in (owns) also pay (on average) 27%. How is that not just another source of taxes from Mitt Romney (and evey other person who owns shares in a public company)?

 

[Bo-4]

Translation

Live my friend Mittens the 1/4 billionaire ALOOOOOOOONE!!!

 

[YouCantHandleDaTruth]

Romney justifies his rate by whether something is legal vs whether it's the right thing to do for the country, that's why he shouldn't be president or no other conservative should be president either.

 

[PhilFish]

do you assess your taxes by 'what is right to do for the country'?

 

[GordonGecko]

Dammit, Mitt has paid 99% of his income in taxes....if you calculate all the taxes he's paid over his life (including sales tax buying a candy bar or toy in the 1950s)....and then add them all up and compare it to what he earned in one month.

 

[Lukey]

Dammit, Mitt has paid 99% of his income in taxes....if you calculate all the taxes he's paid over his life (including sales tax buying a candy bar or toy in the 1950s)....and then add them all up and compare it to what he earned in one month.

Is that what you think I did? No wonder you have nothing to (actually) add to this debate...

 

[GordonGecko]

Lukey, how much in taxes does Mitt pay on his money in the Caymans?

 

[YouCantHandleDaTruth]

do you assess your taxes by 'what is right to do for the country'?

Yes, and my community.

Thx,

Conservatives should smack their lips with soft flip flops

 

[Bo-4]

Lukey, how much in taxes does Mitt pay on his money in the Caymans?

Gordon, you know Mittens just keeps his money there for the climate and beautiful view!

 

[Lukey]

Lukey, how much in taxes does Mitt pay on his money in the Caymans?

That would be a (legal) tax dodge. But, if I was paying in excess of 40% of my income in federal taxes, I'd be looking for (legal) ways to reduce it too. Wouldn't you?

 

[RickWA]

You will note that there is no place for direct, incremental truth in the context of broader philosophical argument, Lukey. This is but one example. In service to the preferred policy that the affluent are taxed more, direct misrepresentation of what goes currently is perfectly ok. It is in service to the larger good that we are defined.

;-)

 

[Bo-4]

Hey Rick, who you like on Super Sunday? I'll probably take the 3.5 points and go with Eli & Company..

 

[Cerulean Mutt]

So I guess we won't be seeing any more claims from conservatives that 49% of the population pay no taxes?

 

[YouCantHandleDaTruth]

.... It is in service to the larger good that we are defined.

;-)

This is fundamentally NOT the case for conservatives in the US, trickle down economics spells this out

 

[RickWA]

Hiya, Bo! Great to see ya!

I'm taking the Giants, but be warned - I placed 37th out of 50 in my company's NCAA bowl pool. My suckiness knows no bounds! :-/

 

[RickWA]

I'm not sure you understood what I wrote, but have a nice day (Capslock, I presume?)

 

[Bo-4]

Hiya, Bo! Great to see ya!

I'm taking the Giants, but be warned - I placed 37th out of 50 in my company's NCAA bowl pool. My suckiness knows no bounds! :-/

Lol, yeah.. i just think Eli's been more consistent than Wonder Boy. I think Tommy may have used up all his TD passes (6) in the game prior.

He kind of sucked in that last one and was lucky as hell to pull it out.

 

[TomFitz]

That is just plain ridiculous.

Stockholders don't pay the corporation's income taxes.

 

[bdtex]

Corporations aren't people too.

 

[Lukey]

That is just plain ridiculous.

Stockholders don't pay the corporation's income taxes.

If the corporate tax suddenly disappeared, who would get that money?