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Liberals playing the race card?

EatTheRich

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Many whites voted for Barack Obama because he did not look like George W. Bush and the other politicians in Washington who'd screwed things up so badly. Many did it in the belief that voting for him would allow the United States to transcend racism. Many, who (although they might never have admitted it to themselves) didn't like Black people very much, voted for him precisely because of the things that made him different from their Black stereotype (a sentiment reflected in Biden's "articulate Black" statement). Many believed, and were eager to believe, that voting for Obama was proof that they were not racist, and therefore excused them from any responsibility to examine how they continue to benefit from the U.S.'s racist power structure.
Obama was also an attractive candidate (literally, in the sense that he is young, handsome, and witty; and politically, in the sense that he was arguably the most progressive Democratic candidate since Dukakis.) Thus it was that Obama did better than John Kerry among all groups of white voters, except white voters in the South. Obama also did better than Kerry throughout the South, except in areas with low percentages of Black voters; in those areas he did much worse. Perhaps Obama insulted rural whites with his stereotype of bitter people clinging to guns and religion. Or perhaps large numbers of people voted against him because of his race. Anyway, since that time, suspicion of the taint of racism has clouded all opposition to Obama and his agenda--something Obama supporters have used to silence their opponents. Recently (and I use him as an example because he's in the news, although white liberals are the more common culprits), for example, Julian Bond flatly accused the Tea Party of being racist.
Meanwhile, it is not a secret that Barack Obama benefitted from the almost unanimous support of Black voters, a group that was crucial to his 2 elections as president. To a large extent this reflected middle class Blacks' decades-long solid support for the Democratic Party, a party that has simply reflected their interests much better than the Republicans have done. Partly (especially in 2008) it represented the illusion that Obama's being in power in itself represents a significant blow at institutional racism--the illusion, as Kwame Ture (Stokely Carmichael) put it, that Black visibility equals Black power. Partly it expressed a wish-fulfillment fantasy identification with Obama's retelling of the politician's hoary son-of-an-immigrant, log-cabin-and-hard-cider story. Partly, perhaps, it also represents a repugnant, thuggish means of compelling unanimity--the theme which immediately follows from the idea that white opponents of Obama are racist, namely, that Black opponents of Obama are traitors to their race.
Whether directed at whites or Blacks, the appeal to racism has been used to silence conservatives with legitimate concerns about taxes, regulation, and government intrusion. This is what is meant by playing the race card. At the same time, Obama's election was met by a frank outpouring of racism. For example, a federal judge made a joke implying that Obama's mother had sex with dogs, and comparing interracial sex to sex with dogs. So the nation became polarized, with liberals seeing racism in every manifestation of opposition to Obama, and conservatives seeing a liberal president blunting legitimate criticism with spurious accusations of racism.
I am a white leftist. I did not vote for Obama because I do not like his politics, but I like those of his Republican opponents even less. Here's my perspective, looking at it from outside the 2-party system: first, liberals are abusing accusations of racism. Bond's recent comments are an example. However, racism does not just mean the open expression of virulent racial opinions--although these are common among conservatives. Racism can also be advocating policies that are objectively harmful to Blacks and other members of oppressed races--this is common among conservatives, as well; however, they may honorably be pursuing these policies in the conviction, wrong though the conviction might be, that the policies are not racist (because they are mistaken about the effects of the policies).
But racism can also be inferred as the most likely explanation when conservatives evince a pattern of disregard of reality so reckless, so unrestrained by the standard bourgeois conventions for political exaggeration, so paranoid schizophrenic, in their opposition to Obama as to recall Captain Ahab's obsession with the white whale. Some examples:

The millions of Republicans who tell pollsters that the Benghazi scandal is worse than Iran-Contra. Not only is it nothing like Iran-Contra in its scope, it is not even a scandal.
The idea that Obama's push for a return to taxes lower than the taxes we had under George H.W. Bush, and his pleas with Congress to fund embassy security and forest firefighters, are equivalent to a request for unlimited power and an all-encompassing government.
The idea that a health care plan largely modeled on Mitt Romney's is a form of radical socialism.
The idea that Obama, the NAACP, the Communist Party, the Weathermen, and the Black Panthers all march in lock step to silence Obama's opponents.
The idea that Obama must denounce everyone he's ever had the slightest contact with, if that person happens to say something controversial.
The idea that gun control proposals supported by the NRA in the 1990s are proposals for immediate disarmament of all whites.
The idea that a press that does not report everything with a ridiculously anti-Obama slant is equivalent to a state-controlled media.
Congressional Republicans' 4 years of opposition to everything Obama has tried to accomplish, including routine procedural votes and uncontroversial ceremonial duties like telling kids to stay in school--even when he is proposing what they'd proposed a few months earlier (as in the repeated debt limit negotiations), even when he is proposing a plan explicitly modeled on the Romney plan, even when credit rating agencies tell them their political gamesmanship is putting the country's credit rating at risk.
Repeatedly making demonstrably false claims about not just the economy in general, but specific, measurable parts of the economy, such as inflation, the stock market, the real estate market, commodities prices, jobs, wages, poverty, welfare, etc.
Promoting the idea that millions of Americans are leeches and that, as Rick Santorum put it, our taxes shouldn't go to "bla people."
The tolerance within the Republican Party for people who make explicitly racist comments and who think it's reasonable for members of Congress and presidential candidates spending months digging into a phony, manufactured, laughable-on-its-face conspiracy theory about the president's being born in a foreign country.
The exaggeration of the real threat Obama poses to constitutional government, and the transparent pretense that it is fundamentally different from the threat posed by Bush or Clinton.
The apparent agreement that Obama's administration (or "regime")--to all appearances the cleanest since at least the days of Eisenhower--is a cesspool of corruption.
The lack of decorum shown to Obama, e.g., in the Speaker's refusal to return his calls.
Overall, the credence and respect given to the bizarre "theory" that Obama's run of the mill, establishment politics represent a leap into the political style of Hitler, Stalin, and Mao (all taken clearly as content-free examples of great evil and not compared on the basis of actual political positions or accomplishments); and the willingness to defend this "theory" by pointing to the number of people Obama has killed, or plans to kill, in his death camps.

To some extent, these things represent growing polarization in the face of a crisis of capitalism that neither party can fix but that brings to the fore their strong disagreements. To some extent, they represent the delusional thinking that is inherent in conservatism. In fact, we saw some similar episodes of divorce from reality under Clinton and Bush. But the virulence with which Obama is denounced, and the huge increase in its prevalence compared to Clinton or Bush--compared with the minimal difference in policy between Obama and either of his predecessors--creates a presumption that Obama is disliked for some unarticulated reason, and opposition to his policy comes second. And what is that reason, if not race?
 
To add to what you said, race has always been an issue with the Republican party. A tool to be used when appropriate. A prime example was the 2000 campaign when McCain was smeared with the rumor that he had an affair with a black woman, and he adopted his 'love child' to hide the affair. This was when i cut my ties to the Republican party.

In the 2008 campaign McCain introduced his 'daughter' to the public for what I believe were two reasons. First to garner a portion of the black vote, and secondly as an 'in your face' answer to the 2000 campaign.

When all the disgusting signs came out, and people began calling it race baiting, they chose Micheal Steel as the Republican head. And then they came out with 'Mr 9-9-9', but had no intention of him ever winning the nomination.

They continually blame the Democrats of keeping the Civil rights amendment from ever passing, but it was the Dixiecrats who stood in it's way. And where did the Dixiecrats go but defect to the Republican party. Recall the speech Trent Lott gave at Strom Thurmonds birthday party, referring to his 'segregation forever' campaign promise.

Had Hillary Clinton won the nomination, they would have been running against another Clinton, and a Democrat, but in Obama they had a different opponent, and they saw their tactics as a win win proposition. They had no intention of losing the White House, in their attempt to push back the clock to a time when there was no middle class, and Obama was a hurdle they had to pass over. But that didn't happen, which is why they vowed to see to it his presidency was a failure.

Understand that I am not a staunch supporter of Obama, I believe he has made a whole series of missteps. But as an example, Bachman's 'death panels', and killing Grandma, is a prime example of the Republican mantra to gain back their power.
 
Again? Lol. That idea of people being traitors to ones race is pretty difficult to figure out. But then again people can be pretty funny. Twist this however you need to, to sleep at night. Bottom line is the GOP is a white party. Yes, you have support of 20-30 of most minorities, former slaves, not included, but the fact remains that even 70% of Jewish voters reject your party, not to mention 70% of Asians, 70% of Hispanics and 70% of Hindu Americans. The GOP has politicians of these ethnicities too but usually only if they convert to a specific religion.
 
You use a lot of words to create a bogus bottom line with outright overreaching and pretending the lead up bogus points are valid. Breaking down each paragraph clearly shows that it does not have to be true to be forcefully presented as truth. This is a largely convoluted breakdown of your mindset. What it is not, is a true demographic breakdown or overview of anything other your thoughts almost taken from a Fox playbook that actually shows that you are hardly just a white lefty, you are better described as a confused white conservative who wants to lean left but hasn't gotten there yet. You used broad convoluted bits of I-think's as statements and present them as facts but in truth you managed to show how very important race really is to conservatives and may have explained more than you wished to convey.

My conclusion is you utilized the writers gimmick of leading the mules to the water but you oversold it by taking too many liberties minus any attempt to validate the fantasy. You are actually an interesting read but overuse of broad conclusions based on "I think's" can choke a reader.

You are flat out wrong from the beginning to the end in some of the more important areas where you try to explain reality with your fantasy.
 
Decorum, uncharted territory, etc.
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One could, of course, attach hundreds more. The point is that those who place undue import upon temporal politics (often to the associated deficit of family or faith) can readily lapse into rabid, nasty behavior. Attributions of race, religion, or whatever other externalities as cause is, of course, the choice of the observer.

Politics is nasty business. It's just one more reason why our best and brightest stay the heck away from it.

Comparative "virulence" is in the eye of the vested adherent. :)
 
I think Doubter understood his piece of work clearly.

While it is a lofty bit of work and much appreciated for the time and intellect he put into it, it is leading and bogus. Still, I am pleased to see it here as it is a step up.
 
ETR, did ANYBODY white vote for Obama....because they didn't want McCain and four more years of Bushism??? Or even because they supported Obama's policy outlines???
 
i think the answer is that after clinton got "feedback" (a smackdown after travelgate, whitewatergate, and the failed attempt to federalize healthcare with secret "expert committtees) - after these, clinton got the message, and downsized his expectations to conform with the constiutional limits of presidential power. and was highly successful.

bush is still more reviled than obama, so if your theory is that obama is reaping racism rather than criticisim for his policy excesses, you lose immediately on the numbers.
 
i think the answer is that after clinton got "feedback" (a smackdown after travelgate, whitewatergate, and the failed attempt to federalize healthcare with secret "expert committtees) - after these, clinton got the message, and downsized his expectations to conform with the constiutional limits of presidential power. and was highly successful.

Really? And you don't think any of that success had to do with the overreach of the Republican Congress? Or the economy...which began turning around BEFORE Newt Gingrich was sworn in?
 
i think the answer is that after clinton got "feedback" (a smackdown after travelgate, whitewatergate, and the failed attempt to federalize healthcare with secret "expert committtees) - after these, clinton got the message, and downsized his expectations to conform with the constiutional limits of presidential power. and was highly successful.

bush is still more reviled than obama, so if your theory is that obama is reaping racism rather than criticisim for his policy excesses, you lose immediately on the numbers.

I was initially quite skeptical about the idea that there was rampant white racism hurting Obama. I didn't deny there were white racists, but I figured there weren't a lot of them, and most of those that did exist hated any Democratic president regardless of race, so Obama was nothing special. My mind changed a bit because of the birther and "secret Muslim" memes. Those both strike me as utterly inexplicable, except in the context of a large group of people for whom Obama is alien due to his skin color, but who have to flail around looking for some other way to claim he's just not "one of us," since they can't openly just say it's his race.

As for the idea that Bush being more reviled than Obama disproves the racism theory, it doesn't. Bush earned being reviled. At one point, his approval ratings were 90%! So, we know that at least 90% of the country could not possibly have been so prejudiced against him, simply due to his identity, that they could not have brought themselves to say they approved of his performance in any circumstance. His approval ratings plunged to around 25%, by the end of his presidency, because that presidency had been an unmitigated, across-the-board catastrophe for the nation. Pretty much anything that could go wrong did. Nearly every measurable indicator of social and economic well-being was worse off at the end of his presidency than before he took office. The US was neck-deep in two wars that weren't going well, which hadn't existed before he took office, poverty was up, incomes were down, stocks were down, budget deficits were up, personal debt was up, US approval ratings internationally were down, the dollar was weaker, the trade deficit was up, and so on. Plus, there'd been a series of stomach-churning scandals, like the betrayal of Valerie Plame, and the torture at Gitmo and Abu Ghraib.

Compare that to Obama. By most measurable indicators, his presidency has had the US on an upward path. Sure, we might dismiss that by pointing out that he inherited a country in such a bad way that mere regression to the mean would have meant serious improvement. But, regardless, one can't attribute the disapproval he faces to Bush-style across-the-board national disaster. Yet Obama's approval ratings have never even cracked 70%. That leaves more than three times as many people who potentially hate him just for his identity, regardless of his job performance, than could have existed for Bush. I can't prove that's primarily due to racism. But it's a possibility.
 
Decorum, uncharted territory, etc.
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One could, of course, attach hundreds more. The point is that those who place undue import upon temporal politics (often to the associated deficit of family or faith) can readily lapse into rabid, nasty behavior. Attributions of race, religion, or whatever other externalities as cause is, of course, the choice of the observer.

Politics is nasty business. It's just one more reason why our best and brightest stay the heck away from it.

Comparative "virulence" is in the eye of the vested adherent. :)

Harry S. Truman: If you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen.
 
ETR, did ANYBODY white vote for Obama....because they didn't want McCain and four more years of Bushism??? Or even because they supported Obama's policy outlines???

Plenty of people did. But--granted that he's from the other of the 2 big-business parties--how much do Obama's policies really differ from Bush's and how much of the messianic hope that Obama would be fundamentally different from Bush and McCain was based on race-based fantasies? Kwame Ture (Stokely Carmichael) points out in Black Power that it is a predictable pattern in the U.S. for a city to elect its first Black mayor right after a major fiscal, social, or humanitarian crisis, and I think it is telling that the U.S. repeated the same pattern.

You use a lot of words to create a bogus bottom line with outright overreaching and pretending the lead up bogus points are valid. Breaking down each paragraph clearly shows that it does not have to be true to be forcefully presented as truth. This is a largely convoluted breakdown of your mindset. What it is not, is a true demographic breakdown or overview of anything other your thoughts almost taken from a Fox playbook that actually shows that you are hardly just a white lefty, you are better described as a confused white conservative who wants to lean left but hasn't gotten there yet. You used broad convoluted bits of I-think's as statements and present them as facts but in truth you managed to show how very important race really is to conservatives and may have explained more than you wished to convey.

My conclusion is you utilized the writers gimmick of leading the mules to the water but you oversold it by taking too many liberties minus any attempt to validate the fantasy. You are actually an interesting read but overuse of broad conclusions based on "I think's" can choke a reader.

You are flat out wrong from the beginning to the end in some of the more important areas where you try to explain reality with your fantasy.

Well, I grant that my insights into the psychology of others isn't based on some sort of expertise. But I really just had 2 points here: 1) there is such a thing as honest conservatism that isn't based on conscious racism but on legitimate concerns, and it is possible to be understanding of those concerns and willing to engage in dialogue even for those who don't share them; 2) the second half of my post, making the point that Obama really is singled out, by broad swaths of the right, in a way that is de facto racist. So the liberals tend to interpret anti-Obama sentiment as racism, because so often it is, which drives the honest conservatives into defending the thinly veiled racism of others on the right, because they perceive a liberal smear campaign designed to silence their ideas; while the racists thrive on the atmosphere of the gutter.
 
In the 2008 campaign McCain introduced his 'daughter' to the public for what I believe were two reasons. First to garner a portion of the black vote, and secondly as an 'in your face' answer to the 2000 campaign.

In the 2004 campaign, he jumped into the state flag controversy in SC....on the side of those who wanted the confederate flag on the state flag. He may not be a racist....I don't know, but he likes racists and wants their votes. That much is crystal clear.
 
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