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Lots Going Wrong Under Biden

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
No. I consistently criticize you for believing Tyler Durden.
There is no such person. I was referring to your repeatedly demonstrated complete credulity when it comes to the lies the government (and their lackeys in the press) have foisted upon us over the past five years. Zerohedge has a way better record of being correct on the facts than they (or you) have.

“And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed — if all records told the same tale — then the lie passed into history and became truth.”

George Orwell
 

middleview

President
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There is no such person. I was referring to your repeatedly demonstrated complete credulity when it comes to the lies the government (and their lackeys in the press) have foisted upon us over the past five years. Zerohedge has a way better record of being correct on the facts than they (or you) have.

“And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed — if all records told the same tale — then the lie passed into history and became truth.”

George Orwell
Overall, we rate ZeroHedge an extreme right-biased conspiracy website based on the promotion of false/misleading/debunked information that routinely denigrates the left.


Just some of what zerohedge has put out...

Failed Fact Checks

 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
There is no such person. I was referring to your repeatedly demonstrated complete credulity when it comes to the lies the government (and their lackeys in the press) have foisted upon us over the past five years. Zerohedge has a way better record of being correct on the facts than they (or you) have.

“And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed — if all records told the same tale — then the lie passed into history and became truth.”

George Orwell
I do not believe any single source without a method to verify the info. Snopes does a good job of providing the source of their data. Zerohedge does not.
 

EatTheRich

President
I thought Europe was "socialist" (at least more socialist than us). The true socialist "utopias" did relatively better because nobody travels to or from them.
Generally, one or the other class rules. Every European country is ruled by a capitalist class. Vietnam, a real-world country ruled by the working class, has 3.8 million annual visitors from tourism alone. 1 million of them are from China.
 

EatTheRich

President
If you trust Putin's numbers or what Kim Jong Un tells us....
You can read South Korean propaganda exaggerating the situation described by informants as much as possible and still come away with the understanding that North Korea’s prompt response saved countless lives.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
I do not believe any single source without a method to verify the info. Snopes does a good job of providing the source of their data. Zerohedge does not.
Well if you are referring to their opinion pieces, nobody does a good job of sourcing those. Zerohedge does a very good job of reporting the actual evidence that your preferred sources claim are "conspiracy theories," which invariably turn out to be decidedly not "conspiracy theories" and are simply the most likely scenario that fits the facts. In the end, Zerohedge has been right about the things they have reported way more often that the mainstream media were on the same subjects.

I don't put much stock in "fact checkers" because they have such an abysmal record of doing what you do - appeals to authority. When, in fact, the "authorities" tend to be serial liars.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Generally, one or the other class rules. Every European country is ruled by a capitalist class. Vietnam, a real-world country ruled by the working class, has 3.8 million annual visitors from tourism alone. 1 million of them are from China.
They also have a climate that puts most of their activities in the way of a breeze, probably the least obese population (save perhaps North Korea's) and what I would guess is one of the lowest average aged populations:

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So suggesting they are the same as us and would have had the same outcomes if not for the heroic actions of their authorities is silly.
 

EatTheRich

President
They also have a climate that puts most of their activities in the way of a breeze, probably the least obese population (save perhaps North Korea's) and what I would guess is one of the lowest average aged populations:

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So suggesting they are the same as us and would have had the same outcomes if not for the heroic actions of their authorities is silly.
Obesity rates and age don’t appear to affect susceptibility to infection. There’s a reason all the countries that did as epidemiologists recommended did so much better than countries that didn’t, and it has nothing to do with your ad hoc rationalizations.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Obesity rates and age don’t appear to affect susceptibility to infection. There’s a reason all the countries that did as epidemiologists recommended did so much better than countries that didn’t, and it has nothing to do with your ad hoc rationalizations.
You really have no shame, do you? That is verifiable horse manure and yet you act like all you have to do is say it and it will be so. LOL!
 

middleview

President
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Well if you are referring to their opinion pieces, nobody does a good job of sourcing those. Zerohedge does a very good job of reporting the actual evidence that your preferred sources claim are "conspiracy theories," which invariably turn out to be decidedly not "conspiracy theories" and are simply the most likely scenario that fits the facts. In the end, Zerohedge has been right about the things they have reported way more often that the mainstream media were on the same subjects.

I don't put much stock in "fact checkers" because they have such an abysmal record of doing what you do - appeals to authority. When, in fact, the "authorities" tend to be serial liars.
So you believe that HIV is present in the Covid virus? Zerohedge reported it is.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
You really have no shame, do you? That is verifiable horse manure and yet you act like all you have to do is say it and it will be so. LOL!
Wow...so look, age and obesity do impact mortality and may even be a factor in severity...but infections happen to skinny and young people at about the same rate and fat and old.

In any case, pretending covid isn't a problem because it only kills old and obese people is simply you trying to improve Trump's popularity.....good luck.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Wow...so look, age and obesity do impact mortality and may even be a factor in severity...but infections happen to skinny and young people at about the same rate and fat and old.

In any case, pretending covid isn't a problem because it only kills old and obese people is simply you trying to improve Trump's popularity.....good luck.
Yes, and they don't get very sick so they don't get tested, leading to artifiially lower infection numbers in those countries. I'm not "pretending covid isn't a problem because it only kills old and obese people," I'm merely pointing out the fact that it is only a problem for old and obese people.
 

middleview

President
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Yes, and they don't get very sick so they don't get tested, leading to artifiially lower infection numbers in those countries. I'm not "pretending covid isn't a problem because it only kills old and obese people," I'm merely pointing out the fact that it is only a problem for old and obese people.
Sure thing..."only a problem". The 21 year old nephew staying at my house had covid back in April. Still has no sense of smell or taste.

We have lost 568,000 lives as of May 12. Over 200,000 of those deaths were people under the age of 74. 100,000 dead under the age of 64.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Sure thing..."only a problem". The 21 year old nephew staying at my house had covid back in April. Still has no sense of smell or taste.

We have lost 568,000 lives as of May 12. Over 200,000 of those deaths were people under the age of 74. 100,000 dead under the age of 64.
And my 93 year old mother in law just had it a few weeks ago and has fully recovered.

Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it up to forced consciousness expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten.”
 

middleview

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And my 93 year old mother in law just had it a few weeks ago and has fully recovered.

Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it up to forced consciousness expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten.”
I am honestly glad she is ok. The point is you're wrong about it only affecting the obese and the old.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
I am honestly glad she is ok. The point is you're wrong about it only affecting the obese and the old.
I never said that - I said it was only a problem for the old and obese. For those of us who aren't old and obese, or compromised with other major health issues, it's not a problem. Look, if there was any evidence whatsoever that all the crap you put us through in an effort to keep the obese (and the majority of the ill) from having to reap the consequences of their (poor) lifestyle choices, I'd be fine with it. But there simply isn't any. It was all for naught.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
I never said that - I said it was only a problem for the old and obese. For those of us who aren't old and obese, or compromised with other major health issues, it's not a problem. Look, if there was any evidence whatsoever that all the crap you put us through in an effort to keep the obese (and the majority of the ill) from having to reap the consequences of their (poor) lifestyle choices, I'd be fine with it. But there simply isn't any. It was all for naught.
"Only a problem"....You are wrong. Of course you can't admit that. It was a problem for anyone who was hospitalized...it was certainly a problem for their families...I guess you might also want to try to understand just what the impact was for doctors and nurses who saw more people die in a day than they would normally see in a year.
 
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