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Misinformation (lying) from those with an axe to grind

Oh, bummer.

I thought this was a thread about Obama claiming that if we liked our insurance we could keep it, period, that no one would take it away from us because of Obamacare.
 
Marcus Aurelius said:
Oh, bummer.

I thought this was a thread about Obama claiming that if we liked our insurance we could keep it, period, that no one would take it away from us because of Obamacare.
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Looky I just hooked one of the "misinformation" spreaders who wants to change the subject. Look over there at that nice shiny object.
 
What the Affordable Care Act is
The Affordable Care Act is a law designed to make health insurance more available and affordable.
It attempts to accomplish this in five ways:
  • It expands the Medicaid program so more low-income Americans are covered.
  • It requires insurance companies to cover those with pre-existing conditions, thus allowing more Americans to buy health insurance.
  • It establishes online marketplaces to promote competition among private insurance companies, hopefully leading to lower prices. (The marketplaces are where people who don’t get affordable insurance through their workplace can buy insurance on their own.)
  • It establishes minimum requirements for health insurance.
  • It requires many of the uninsured to get coverage by using both carrot and stick. The carrot is income-based subsidies for those who buy insurance on the marketplaces. The stick is penalties for those who refuse to buy insurance.
What the Affordable Care Act isn’t
The Affordable Care Act is not a government-run health care plan. By the way, Medicare, which has had relatively few complaints, is a government-run health care plan.
The Affordable Care Act does not provide government health insurance. The health insurance offered on health care exchanges is offered by private companies.
The Affordable Care Act doesn’t ration health care, establish “death panels,” or prevent seniors or anyone else from getting necessary medical procedures.
 
While most everyone (except maybe Stacey and Miki) is aware that the PPACA and Medicare are distinct in the payer sense. Are you positioning Medicare as not incurring reductions in the near term?

Your referenced article hedges with a 'likely' splashed in there for good measure.

Further, what are your thoughts on the Medicare Quality Reporting initiatives and its effects on fee for service providers?
 
ITALIA said:
Now who could that possibly be?
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ask-stacy-obama-stop-medicare-120032578.html
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From YOUR linked to news story;

"But that’s likely a gross exaggeration."

HUH?

Not, "No, that is not correct." ????
Not, "That is a lie, this is actually what will happen,....."???
Just a good 'ol, "Na-Ua. This is what I think..."????? THAT impresses you WHY?

Not to mention this all too typical, handy-dandy little libby double talk;

"As we have written many times, the law does not slash the current Medicare budget by $500 billion. Rather, that’s a $500 billion REDUCTION IN the FUTURE GROWTH of Medicare over 10 years, or about a 7 percent reduction in growth over the decade. In other words, Medicare SPENDING WOULD CONTINE TO RISE, just not as much."

I see...................

And THIS, "reduction in growth" that is NOT "slashing" the Medicare budget, it differs from the "slashing" of the budget that Democrats always howl about when they CLAIM they are making budget "cuts" as a trade off for tax increases?

Isnt this pretty much the base-line budgeting that we see so much of in Washington?

How can this BOTH be "cuts" when Democrats accept it in exchange for more taxes, AND also NOT be "cuts" when someone is worried about future Medicare "cuts" affecting future services?

In summary, while Miki’s concern is understandable, it’s unfounded. If she needs it, she’ll be able to get cataract surgery under Medicare.
 
what part of this is a lie? it all looks accurate to me . . .

who should we believe . . . legitimate news sites, like Yahoo/Finance, or some anonymous partisan named "italia"?
 
ITALIA said:
Start your own thread on that shiny object if you like. This one is about the link showing your Republican friends spreading lies.
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Like the lie Obama told about being able to keep your inssurance if you liked it> That no one would take ti away from you? Period?

Like those lies?
 
ITALIA said:
No. Start your own thread on your pet bitch.
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I'm sorry you are so butt-hurt by Obama's lies that you have to take it out on everyone here. Perhaps if your lips were not surgically attached to his ass, you could get a littler distance from him and his lies, and thus, some perspective.
 
Marcus Aurelius said:
I'm sorry you are so butt-hurt by Obama's lies that you have to take it out on everyone here. Perhaps if your lips were not surgically attached to his ass, you could get a littler distance from him and his lies, and thus, some perspective.
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wow - she (he?) is in DEEP denial here . . . LOL.

italia has joined the axis of evil (saladin, yuri) as my expectation of the poster mostly likely to post gratuitous insults and exhibit a total lack of rationality
 
JuliefromOhio said:
What the Affordable Care Act is
The Affordable Care Act is a law designed to make health insurance more available and affordable.
It attempts to accomplish this in five ways:
  • It expands the Medicaid program so more low-income Americans are covered.
  • It requires insurance companies to cover those with pre-existing conditions, thus allowing more Americans to buy health insurance.
  • It establishes online marketplaces to promote competition among private insurance companies, hopefully leading to lower prices. (The marketplaces are where people who don’t get affordable insurance through their workplace can buy insurance on their own.)
  • It establishes minimum requirements for health insurance.
  • It requires many of the uninsured to get coverage by using both carrot and stick. The carrot is income-based subsidies for those who buy insurance on the marketplaces. The stick is penalties for those who refuse to buy insurance.
What the Affordable Care Act isn’t
The Affordable Care Act is not a government-run health care plan. By the way, Medicare, which has had relatively few complaints, is a government-run health care plan.
The Affordable Care Act does not provide government health insurance. The health insurance offered on health care exchanges is offered by private companies.
The Affordable Care Act doesn’t ration health care, establish “death panels,” or prevent seniors or anyone else from getting necessary medical procedures.
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A pretty good bit of information that the reich will toss aside like a used cigarette butt.
 
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