Murder

[Dawg]

Maybe in Americaa the rate would be lower. But without blacks in the inner city you are not talking about America

I posted of blacks killing blacks in inner cities..........."Americaa".............there isn't any 'would be lower' it would be a hellof a lot lower.

Who the fork said anything about inner cities without blacks wouldn't be America, other than you? It's clear one of America's biggest problems is dem/lib control of black inner cities, they are sewers!

 

[Arkady]

Subtract the black on black inner city murders and murder rates in Americaa would be lower than many countries

I'd imagine that with any country, if you gave them the ability to ignore whichever part of their stats is worst, they'd have much better stats. That's kind of just basic math. But, it doesn't really get us anywhere when it comes to the question at hand -- what happened in 2015 when it came to murders? There wasn't suddenly a big increase in the number of black people in the inner cities. In fact, in 2015 "Black or African American" committed 36.7% of murders, compared to 37.2% in 2014. So, whatever went wrong in 2015, it wasn't specifically a change in the black community. It also wasn't Hispanics or Latinos, whose percentage fell from 14.7% to 12.7%. What was it? I'm not sure, but in light of the fact non-firearms homicide declined pretty significantly, I think guns are a reasonable place to look.

 

[Dawg]

I'd imagine that with any country, if you gave them the ability to ignore whichever part of their stats is worst, they'd have much better stats. That's kind of just basic math. But, it doesn't really get us anywhere when it comes to the question at hand -- what happened in 2015 when it came to murders? There wasn't suddenly a big increase in the number of black people in the inner cities. In fact, in 2015 "Black or African American" committed 36.7% of murders, compared to 37.2% in 2014. So, whatever went wrong in 2015, it wasn't specifically a change in the black community. It also wasn't Hispanics or Latinos, whose percentage fell from 14.7% to 12.7%. What was it? I'm not sure, but in light of the fact non-firearms homicide declined pretty significantly, I think guns are a reasonable place to look.

http://www.amren.com/news/2015/07/new-doj-statistics-on-race-and-violent-crime/

and the real problem:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/171576/america-doesnt-have-gun-problem-it-has-gang-daniel-greenfield

Your boy Θ is responsible for the Increase in murders..............and turning race relations back 60 years.

 

[Spamature]

I posted of blacks killing blacks in inner cities..........."Americaa".............there isn't any 'would be lower' it would be a hellof a lot lower.

Who the fork said anything about inner cities without blacks wouldn't be America, other than you? It's clear one of America's biggest problems is dem/lib control of black inner cities, they are sewers!

Goper/NRA controlled states with lax gun laws are the problem. They make it easier to buy guns down there and smuggle them into states and cities with more strict gun control laws.

Example

You would see the same patter across the nation.

 

[Dawg]

Goper/NRA controlled states with lax gun laws are the problem. They make it easier to buy guns down there and smuggle them into states and cities with more strict gun control laws.

Example

You would see the same patter across the nation.

So you blaming the GUN instead of the damn thugs and gang bangers, doesn't surprise me. I must need to talk to my Guns, they have laid around for years and never moved or shot anyone!

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/171576/america-doesnt-have-gun-problem-it-has-gang-daniel-greenfield

 

[Arkady]

Your boy Θ is responsible for the Increase in murders

If so, why are murders down significantly on his watch?

 

[Arkady]

So you blaming the GUN instead of the damn thugs and gang bangers, doesn't surprise me. I must need to talk to my Guns, they have laid around for years and never moved or shot anyone!

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/171576/america-doesnt-have-gun-problem-it-has-gang-daniel-greenfield

Keep in mind I'm focusing here specifically on the change that happened in 2015, when we went from the falling murder rates we had for the rest of Obama's presidency to a single year of rising murder. Why did it happen? Do you think it was about there suddenly being more "thugs and gang bangers"? Keep in mind, the murder increase happened in pretty much every kind of community, with the biggest increase actually happening in non-metro-county towns of fewer than 10,000 residents. That kind of rural spike would be tough to explain with "thugs and gang bangers." It also doesn't make sense that non-firearm murders would have decline in 2015 if there were an increase in thugs and gang-bangers -- presumably then we'd also see a rise in knife-murders, etc.

 

[Spamature]

So you blaming the GUN instead of the damn thugs and gang bangers, doesn't surprise me. I must need to talk to my Guns, they have laid around for years and never moved or shot anyone!

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/171576/america-doesnt-have-gun-problem-it-has-gang-daniel-greenfield

I blame who I always blame, gun owners. Which definitely includes gun traffickers.

 

[marvin martian]

So you blaming the GUN instead of the damn thugs and gang bangers, doesn't surprise me. I must need to talk to my Guns, they have laid around for years and never moved or shot anyone!

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/171576/america-doesnt-have-gun-problem-it-has-gang-daniel-greenfield

You've got lazy guns.

 

[marvin martian]

Keep in mind, the murder increase happened in pretty much every kind of community, with the biggest increase actually happening in non-metro-county towns of fewer than 10,000 residents. That kind of rural spike would be tough to explain with "thugs and gang bangers."

Why?

 

[Deleted member 21794]

Don't sweat it. At the least I can claim I once defended the Martian, so I'm happy.

Damn.... almost makes me wish I woulda dug my heels in.

 

[Dawg]

You've got lazy guns.

couple of them are active when deer and bear season opens, got a two room gun that likes to shoot quail and wabbits and an auto that likes shooting Turkeys..........the lazy one's just don't get no action ☺

 

[Dawg]

If so, why are murders down significantly on his watch?

they not, his hometown just broke the 500 record

 

[Arkady]

Why?

Gangs tend to be urban phenomena, not something you see in towns of less than 10,000, in non-metro counties. Maybe things are different in your neck of the woods, but up my way, you see gang tags almost entirely confined to the urban areas.

 

[Arkady]

they not, his hometown just broke the 500 record

I'll go ahead and assume you mean Chicago, not Honolulu or DC. If so, what makes you think 500 is a record? Weren't 943 killed there in 1992? 970 in 1974? Over 650 as recently as the Bush years?

Regardless, that's just a single city, comprising significantly less than 1% of the US population. Obviously, even if Chicago were back to the bad old days of the end of the Reagan/Bush years, with almost twice as much murder as today, the nation as a whole could still be improving. Here are the crime stats by year:

http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2015/crime-in-the-u.s.-2015/tables/table-1

As you can see, before Obama took office, the murder rate was 5.4/100k. Now it's 4.9/100k.

Facts matter.

 

[Boca]

....but if you screw around with the numbers a bit....

Nobody better at that than you.

 

[Wolfert Webber]

I blame who I always blame, gun owners. Which definitely includes gun traffickers.

Was the thug killed in Charlotte, a convicted felon with a stolen gun, a gun owner, or, a gun thief?
If I steal your car, do I own it?

Are you saying possession is ownership?

That would be anarchy.

 

[Spamature]

Was the thug killed in Charlotte, a convicted felon with a stolen gun, a gun owner, or, a gun thief?
If I steal your car, do I own it?

Are you saying possession is ownership?

That would be anarchy.

You got a gun. You're a gun owner.

Whether or not someone approves of that ownership is irrelevant.

 

[Wolfert Webber]

You tell a lie, you're a liar.

The charge when a felon has a stolen gun is possession of stolen goods, not illegal gun ownership.

It is a "possession" charge.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

I read the New York Times every single day.

By measure, easily the most liberal mainstream media source in America. It makes sense.

It ranks nearly twice as liberal than FOX is conservative, so says Harvard.

That all makes perfect sense.