New GOP state strategy on "Obamacare": Deprive their residents of the coverage

[Bugsy McGurk]

Yep, crazed GOP governors and legislatures will now actively deprive their residents of the health coverage provided by the ACA. That Florida wackjob, Gov. Scott, already said that's what he would do.

How? Two ways.

First, refuse the federal money allowing more poor people to acquire Medicaid coverage. Just leave them uninsured.

Second, refuse to set up the health insurance exchanges that will allow more options and health care savings for all.

The Obama hate is indeed so intense that GOP cult leaders in some GOP states will actively seek to deprive their residents of coverage, more options and savings.

Perhaps that will convince all but the dimmest, most diehard GOP cultists that the last thing they should do is vote GOP?

 

[JuliefromOhio]

how "Christian" of them.

 

[ITALIA]

It is the red states that will benefit much more from the expanded Medicaid than the blue states. If they do it that is.

 

[Drumcollie]

We are supposed to act like the jack asses(donkey party) who didnt read this bill and couldnt tell you whether it was a penalty or a tax...who said ...you have to pass the bill to see what is in the bill have something good for us.. Yeah those morons who dont even know what in the damned bill...no thanks. I hope my state does the same thing.

Facts are that you dont want to reach into your wallet to pay for what I need or my medical expenses , so why would you want Obama care if it's a tax it will be the same thing.

 

[MaryAnne]

McConnell just announced to a group he was speaking to that it is much harder to kill something after it is passed than to kill it before you do. The Pundit called that the last stage of grief ,"Acceptance." He showed the 5 stages they have gone through)

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

We are supposed to act like the jack asses(donkey party) who didnt read this bill and couldnt tell you whether it was a penalty or a tax...who said ...you have to pass the bill to see what is in the bill have something good for us.. Yeah those morons who dont even know what in the damned bill...no thanks. I hope my state does the same thing.

Facts are that you dont want to reach into your wallet to pay for what I need or my medical expenses , so why would you want Obama care if it's a tax it will be the same thing.

Blah, blah, blah....good luck telling voters that the GOP is screwing them out of coverage and better rates.

 

[imreallyperplexed]

Bugsy,

I would have to check but I believe that the PPACA allowed the Federal government to set up the exchange if the state government could not or refused to set up the exchange. I assume that there would be a standard template for the states that decided not to "customize" their exchange.

Yep, crazed GOP governors and legislatures will now actively deprive their residents of the health coverage provided by the ACA. That Florida wackjob, Gov. Scott, already said that's what he would do.

How? Two ways.

First, refuse the federal money allowing more poor people to acquire Medicaid coverage. Just leave them uninsured.

Second, refuse to set up the health insurance exchanges that will allow more options and health care savings for all.

The Obama hate is indeed so intense that GOP cult leaders in some GOP states will actively seek to deprive their residents of coverage, more options and savings.

Perhaps that will convince all but the dimmest, most diehard GOP cultists that the last thing they should do is vote GOP?

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Bugsy,

I would have to check but I believe that the PPACA allowed the Federal government to set up the exchange if the state government could not or refused to set up the exchange. I assume that there would be a standard template for the states that decided not to "customize" their exchange.

I think you're right - the feds can do it if the states refuse. Hardly ideal though.

 

[JuliefromOhio]

McConnell just announced to a group he was speaking to that it is much harder to kill something after it is passed than to kill it before you do. The Pundit called that the last stage of grief ,"Acceptance." He showed the 5 stages they have gone through)

McConnell is also backing off because the Romney camp does not want to run on health care.....at all.

 

[Lukey]

What do you think the chances are that after say, a decade, the Feds suddenly decide they can no longer pay 90% any more and start dumping more and more of the costs on the states?

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

What do you think the chances are that after say, a decade, the Feds suddenly decide they can no longer pay 90% any more and start dumping more and more of the costs on the states?

I'd say the chances of that are pretty decent.

Good luck explaining to voters that you are screwing them out of coverage for that reaosn.

P.S. Note how I do not share your fear of answering questions.

 

[JuliefromOhio]

GOP: "we don't care about the uninsured."

 

[Lukey]

I'd say the chances of that are pretty decent.

Good luck explaining to voters that you are screwing them out of coverage for that reaosn.

P.S. Note how I do not share your fear of answering questions.

Thanks for admitting what I have said all along - that Obamacare will prove unaffordable...

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Thanks for admitting what I have said all along - that Obamacare will prove unaffordable...

Do you really get a kick out of telling goofball lies like that?

What's the matter with you people?

 

[Friday13]

Add Jindal an McDonnell to the list...

The Supreme Court upheld President Barack Obama's health care law on Thursday, but Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, a possible Republican vice presidential contender who has refused to establish a federally mandated health care exchange in his state, said Friday that he will continue to ignore it.

"We're not going to start implementing Obamacare," Jindal said during a conference call with Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell. "We're committed to working to elect Gov. Romney to repeal Obamacare."

Under the Affordable Care Act, states must set up a health insurance exchange program by Jan. 1, 2014, and will receive grants from the federal government to implement it. Several Republican governors, including both Jindal and McDonnell, have put off setting up the exchanges in the hope that the law would be repealed or struck down by the court. Now that the law has been upheld, Jindal said he won't change course and is looking to presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney to lead the repeal effort if he takes office in 2013.

"Here in Louisiana we have not applied for the grants, we have not accepted many of these dollars, we're not implementing the exchanges," Jindal said. "We don't think it makes any sense to implement Obamacare in Louisiana. We're going to do what we can to fight it."

Source

 

[TomFitz]

Yes, I understand that Jim DeMint, the self appointed head of what used to be called the tea party caucus is going around championing this. I don't know what he calls he group now. No one wants to be seen anywhere near anything that even looks like a tea party anymore.

I also understand that GOP grandstanders like Scott, Jindal, Nicki Haley are all on board.

I confidently predict that is the latest blast of right wing noise, and that DeMint and the rest of the polticians who built their careers on pandering to the dittoheads and the wingnuts are going to blowviate about this for months or even a year or two.

Right up until the cash actually becomes available.

They, one,by one, they'll all take it.

I even predict that more than one of them will get their picture taken with the big check for the money they're saying they won't accept.

Just like Bobby Jindal and Scott Perry did with Stimulus money.

 

[MaryAnne]

Bugsy,

I would have to check but I believe that the PPACA allowed the Federal government to set up the exchange if the state government could not or refused to set up the exchange. I assume that there would be a standard template for the states that decided not to "customize" their exchange.

You are right on that one,IRP.Kasich has said he did not know whether They would do an exchange.If they do not,the Feds will come in and do one for them. Kasich is being very cagey this time,after so many misakes. We now have 485 million in the rainy day fund. Kasich said that would got toward the Medicaid changes required by the Health Care law.

BTW,we will now have redistricting on the ballot.They have enough signatures to put it on and that would create a panel, not beholden to any party. No lobbyists,big donors or politicians allowed!