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Newt's Curious attack on ABC

degsme

Council Member
One of the curious aspects of Newt's "best defense is a good offense" attack response to the quesiton about his proposing an "open marriage" to his ex is that the very thing Gingrich claimed to decry in saying

"I think the destructive, vicious, negative nature of much of the news media makes it harder to govern this country, harder to attract decent people to run for public office, and I am appalled that you would begin a presidential debate with a topic like that,"

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Is the irony that one of the people MOST responsible for the "viscious, negative nature of much of the "political discourse in the nation is directly attributable to Newt himself.

Not only did he write the infamous GOPAc Memo
http://www.thenextright.com/data-driven-politics/newt-gingrichs-1996-gopac-memo

in which he tells his conservative brethren to call their opponents:
  • Corrupt
  • Intolerant
  • destructive
  • radical
  • incompetant
  • self-serving
  • disgrace
  • Traitors
  • Shameful
  • Hmm starts to sound like a post by some of our posters here doesn't it?
  • etc

But he also achieved his speakership in no small part by going after then Speaker James Wright for selling copies of his book as a way of getting around campaign finance limits http://articles.chicagotribune.com/keyword/jim-wright and Hnoraria limits (sound familiar again? Rhymes with Rain http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2011/10/herman-cain-books-campaign-funds-/1 )

Now of course Gingrich can count on the ignorance of folks like those of our posters who don't seem to be able to source any of their claims in INDEPENDENTLY VERFIABLE sources to cheer him in this early part of the election. And beating up on the media does have some traction in the General election.

But what Gingrich doesn't quite yet fully seem to get is how this sort of hypocrisy can be exploited by SuperPAC's against him.

Consider this sort of video - Opening shot through the back window of a luxoury car. Shows a silver headed man in the driver's seat on a cell phone saying

"Well he lied to the public about his affair"

Meanwhile the back of a woman's head is seen bobbing up and down in the lap of the driver periodically.
 
Congratulations excellent reference

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Lobato1


One of the curious aspects of Newt's "best defense is a good offense" attack response to the quesiton about his proposing an "open marriage" to his ex is that the very thing Gingrich claimed to decry in saying

"I think the destructive, vicious, negative nature of much of the news media makes it harder to govern this country, harder to attract decent people to run for public office, and I am appalled that you would begin a presidential debate with a topic like that,"

​
Is the irony that one of the people MOST responsible for the "viscious, negative nature of much of the "political discourse in the nation is directly attributable to Newt himself.

Not only did he write the infamous GOPAc Memo
http://www.thenextright.com/data-driven-politics/newt-gingrichs-1996-gopac-memo

in which he tells his conservative brethren to call their opponents:
  • Corrupt
  • Intolerant
  • destructive
  • radical
  • incompetant
  • self-serving
  • disgrace
  • Traitors
  • Shameful
  • Hmm starts to sound like a post by some of our posters here doesn't it?
  • etc

But he also achieved his speakership in no small part by going after then Speaker James Wright for selling copies of his book as a way of getting around campaign finance limits http://articles.chicagotribune.com/keyword/jim-wright and Hnoraria limits (sound familiar again? Rhymes with Rain http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2011/10/herman-cain-books-campaign-funds-/1 )

Now of course Gingrich can count on the ignorance of folks like those of our posters who don't seem to be able to source any of their claims in INDEPENDENTLY VERFIABLE sources to cheer him in this early part of the election. And beating up on the media does have some traction in the General election.

But what Gingrich doesn't quite yet fully seem to get is how this sort of hypocrisy can be exploited by SuperPAC's against him.

Consider this sort of video - Opening shot through the back window of a luxoury car. Shows a silver headed man in the driver's seat on a cell phone saying

"Well he lied to the public about his affair"

Meanwhile the back of a woman's head is seen bobbing up and down in the lap of the driver periodically.
 
A DEBATE question is not a castigation of one's character or asking one of the panel to explain an ex-wife's hysterical rants.
A debate question frames an argument or policy in different ways so the voter can discriminate between the various types running for the position. It's not a time or place for a hatchet job on one's reputation.

Newt was precisely correct.
 
A DEBATE question is not a castigation of one's character or asking one of the panel to explain an ex-wife's hysterical rants.
Got any evidence that Gingrich's ex is "hysterical"? Or is this just another case where a conservative is willing to employ references resonant with historical bigotry (women are prone to hysteria and not to be taken seriously) to undermine the credibility of someone bringing forth inconvenient facts?

A debate question frames an argument or policy in different ways so the voter can discriminate between the various types running for the position.
Really? So a if a debater takes one position one moment (family is the core of American structure) and another at a later moment (having an affair is not detrimental to core American structure) - then this sort of inconsistency, shall we say hypocrisy - is not relevant for the voter in discriminating between that debater and the one who remains consistent in what they advocate?

INTERESTING...
 
I don't think an affair means a politican is espousing a different position, do you? Bringing up evidence-free word of mouth about ONE candidate is not a debate topic. Gingrich espoused no such new position, nor should he need to face baseless charges in a debate forum. Unless it's being run by the Weekly World News, or other 75-cent tabloid.
 
I think he had every right to be upset, yet it certainly worked out well for him. Don't know if it will continue but then it would only be Romney with a chance, imo, so Go Newt.
 
:yo: don't dem/libs have sex?

Have dem/libs never lusted and or wish they could have an open marriage, wait, Slick answers that question......

'O' is in BIG trouble if dem/libs think this is going to bring Newt down to 'O's level.......I LMAO watching dem/libs posting they HOPE Newt is the nom,..... as if 'O' beating Newt a cake walk........:crazy:

Remember 'O' has a terrible failed record he must run on this time, something he'd never had to do before.........

Drink to the foam=>:

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/fir...turing-28-obama-burger-kobe-beef-bacon-cheese

Thought Michelle had a eat healthy gig? How many 'Obama Burgers' can she eat in one setting?
 
:yo: don't dem/libs have sex?

Have dem/libs never lusted and or wish they could have an open marriage, wait, Slick answers that question......

So then you think that family is NOT the "cornerstone of american society" as Newt claims to be the case?
 
I don't think an affair means a politican is espousing a different position, do you?
Hmm, so Gingrich espousing that "traditional marriage" is the cornerstone of American Society, and then choosing to ignore his own claims in his daily choices is not a repudiation of his stated position?

Actions don't speak louder than words??? FASCINATING


Bringing up evidence-free word of mouth about ONE candidate is not a debate topic.
Evidence Free? Is there a denial of the court record of Gingrich's calls to his wife from Callista's residence?
 
http://www.godvoter.org/2012/Newt-Gingrich-beliefs.html
11. Do you believe Jesus is God?
Gingrich: (answer pending)

12. Do you believe Jesus died on the cross and then rose from the dead?
Gingrich: (answer pending)


11. Do you believe Jesus is God?
Gingrich: (answer pending)

12. Do you believe Jesus died on the cross and then rose from the dead?
Gingrich: (answer pending)

13. Do you believe Jesus ascended to heaven?
Gingrich: (answer pending)

14. Do you believe Jesus will return someday?
Gingrich: (answer pending)

15. Do you believe in the existence of both heaven and hell?
Gingrich: (answer pending)

16. By what criteria do you believe people go to heaven or hell?
Gingrich: (answer pending)

17. How would you characterize the original and current relationship between Jesus and Satan?
Gingrich: (answer pending)

18. Do you believe that Islam at its foundation is a religion of peace?
Gingrich: (answer pending)

19. How many books in the Bible do you believe are inspired by God and inerrant?
Gingrich: (answer pending)

20. Which Bible verse(s) is/are particularly dear to you and why?
Gingrich: (answer pending)


Newt Gingrich is a calculating Machiavellian whom the voters ultimately should trust as much as his first, second or the current wife should trust, and he ultimately will fail to resolve the problems facing America for this reason.

Newt Gingrich is not the Christian President that America needs to elect, but in a candidate field which unlike its 2008 counterpart, is devoid of a Christian who demonstrates reliance on Christ, he will still be a better choice for President than Mitt Romney for this reason.

Our rating of Newt Gingrich's presidential candidacy is a reluctant C+.
 
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