Nuclear Option

[BRU]

Throwback :

"If the majority chooses to end the filibuster, if they choose to change the rules and put an end to democratic debate, then the fighting and the gridlock and the bitterness will only get worse." Obama

How do you think it will help Democrats when Republicans win the Senate back in 2014 ...hmm and maybe the White House in 2016?

If the Republicans had any guts they would end Democrat supermajority on all legislative issues. Filibuster every damn piece of legislation and deny unanimous consent until dems overturn the change. Grow a damn spine all ready GOP.

and I say be careful what you wish for It's not going to be your Senate forever.

 

[UnleashedInTheEast]

It's tough to know what they're up to. On the one hand, as you noted, very short-sighted. On the other hand, maybe they feel they have a very short time. Or hell, maybe they're just desperate to get the constant drone of bad news for Obamacare out of the headlines. It's tough to figure out people this depraved and removed from reality.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

It's tough to know what they're up to. On the one hand, as you noted, very short-sighted. On the other hand, maybe they feel they have a very short time. Or hell, maybe they're just desperate to get the constant drone of bad news for Obamacare out of the headlines. It's tough to figure out people this depraved and removed from reality.

I disagree about it being short sighted. People keep saying that the dems will regret it if the GOP retakes the Senate, but even if that happens, the lame duck dem majority will still have time to reverse the rule before they leave office. You're not expecting the media to point out dem hypocrisy if they were to roll out the same tired quotes about it being unconstitutional if the reps try to put the option back in place are you?

The nuclear option is temporary, and will last no longer than the democratic majority.

 

[UnleashedInTheEast]

I disagree about it being short sighted. People keep saying that the dems will regret it if the GOP retakes the Senate, but even if that happens, the lame duck dem majority will still have time to reverse the rule before they leave office. You're not expecting the media to point out dem hypocrisy if they were to roll out the same tired quotes about it being unconstitutional if the reps try to put the option back in place are you?

The nuclear option is temporary, and will last no longer than the democratic majority.

Good point. They'll probably have an attack of conscience (if the Nov. '14 polls look bad enough of course) next Fall and return to the old rules- because they care, of course.

BTW... in case you and Bru didn't know. I'm out of the closet. I'm Stan. Had to stay incognito for a spell to see if I'd get banned. It appears all the stuff I got banned for is a common occurrence now.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Good point. They'll probably have an attack of conscience (if the Nov. '14 polls look bad enough of course) next Fall and return to the old rules- because they care, of course.

BTW... in case you and Bru didn't know. I'm out of the closet. I'm Stan. Had to stay incognito for a spell to see if I'd get banned. It appears all the stuff I got banned for is a common occurrence now.

That's funny I was beginning to suspect that when I noticed that crossfire was gone. I'd say welcome back but you probably came back before I did.

 

[BRU]

Good point. They'll probably have an attack of conscience (if the Nov. '14 polls look bad enough of course) next Fall and return to the old rules- because they care, of course.

BTW... in case you and Bru didn't know. I'm out of the closet. I'm Stan. Had to stay incognito for a spell to see if I'd get banned. It appears all the stuff I got banned for is a common occurrence now.

Damn I thought you sounded familiar and Pogue too! Nice to see you both back on PJ!

 

[Jen]

The Democrats plan to pack the courts with Democrat judges. Those judges will be there beyond 2014 and 2016. And the courts where they will be seated are the courts that will see any legislation passed regarding Obamacare.

I am sure that the Democrats see that as a way to hedge their bets since they are losing the respect of the MSM and the American people. They crammed Obamacare down our throats and they don't mean to allow it to slip away.

My hope is that it turns out to be a short-sighted mistake. If the GOP can get its act together and make lemonade out of this it will be to the benefit of the GOP and the American people. I am not convinced that that can happen but I hope it does.

 

[Jen]

The Democrats plan to pack the courts with Democrat judges. Those judges will be there beyond 2014 and 2016. And the courts where they will be seated are the courts that will see any legislation passed regarding Obamacare.

I am sure that the Democrats see that as a way to hedge their bets since they are losing the respect of the MSM and the American people. They crammed Obamacare down our throats and they don't mean to allow it to slip away.

My hope is that it turns out to be a short-sighted mistake. If the GOP can get its act together and make lemonade out of this it will be to the benefit of the GOP and the American people. I am not convinced that that can happen but I hope it does.

Furthermore, as they are jamming the courts with Liberal nominees, now that they don't have to worry about filibuster, they can get some nominees in there that are truly and totally out there in Socialist Left area. The people they will nominate will make Kagan and Sotomayor look like right-wingers.

 

[JuliefromOhio]