Obama: Lead or Resign.

[Jen]

Since the ISIS attack on Paris, Obama's response has been tepid at best. He has called it a "setback" and has vowed that our "policy" (such that it is) on ISIS will not change.

That meek, meager response has led to the NY Post op ed calling for Obama's resignation. Even Joe Biden with his constant gaffes would be more alert to what is going on in the world and what is called for from a POTUS.

Michael Goodwin, NY Post says this: LINK

In any time and place, war is fiendishly simple. It is the ultimate zero-sum contest — you win or you lose.


That eternal truth is so obvious that it should not need to be said. Yet even after the horrific slaughter in Paris, there remains a distressing doubt about whether America’s commander in chief gets it.



President Obama has spent the last seven years trying to avoid the world as it is. He has put his intellect and rhetorical skills into the dishonorable service of assigning blame and fudging failure. If nuances were bombs, Islamic State would have been destroyed years ago.


He refuses to say “Islamic terrorism,” as if that would offend the peaceful Muslims who make up the vast bulk of victims. He rejects the word “war,” even as jihadists carry out bloodthirsty attacks against Americans and innocent peoples around the world.



Obama is blind to what is happening in the world.
He needs to go.

 

[Saladin2]

You are a joke....You sound like an ISIS spokesman running down the President and America

 

[Caroljo]

Since the ISIS attack on Paris, Obama's response has been tepid at best. He has called it a "setback" and has vowed that our "policy" (such that it is) on ISIS will not change.

That meek, meager response has led to the NY Post op ed calling for Obama's resignation. Even Joe Biden with his constant gaffes would be more alert to what is going on in the world and what is called for from a POTUS.

Michael Goodwin, NY Post says this: LINK

In any time and place, war is fiendishly simple. It is the ultimate zero-sum contest — you win or you lose.


That eternal truth is so obvious that it should not need to be said. Yet even after the horrific slaughter in Paris, there remains a distressing doubt about whether America’s commander in chief gets it.



President Obama has spent the last seven years trying to avoid the world as it is. He has put his intellect and rhetorical skills into the dishonorable service of assigning blame and fudging failure. If nuances were bombs, Islamic State would have been destroyed years ago.


He refuses to say “Islamic terrorism,” as if that would offend the peaceful Muslims who make up the vast bulk of victims. He rejects the word “war,” even as jihadists carry out bloodthirsty attacks against Americans and innocent peoples around the world.



Obama is blind to what is happening in the world.
He needs to go.

I remember when he said that. Paris is a gun free zone....now we see how much that helped them!! This attack (as the President of France said) is an act of war. It should be considered an act of war with all free countries! He wants to bring thousands here, with no way of vetting them....they've admitted it would be hard to know much about these people. He's putting all of us in danger. So far several states (mine included!) have said they won't allow them in. ALL states need to do this. Once they're here, they'll be able to travel all over the country.

 

[Spamature]

Since the ISIS attack on Paris, Obama's response has been tepid at best. He has called it a "setback" and has vowed that our "policy" (such that it is) on ISIS will not change.

That meek, meager response has led to the NY Post op ed calling for Obama's resignation. Even Joe Biden with his constant gaffes would be more alert to what is going on in the world and what is called for from a POTUS.

Michael Goodwin, NY Post says this: LINK

In any time and place, war is fiendishly simple. It is the ultimate zero-sum contest — you win or you lose.


That eternal truth is so obvious that it should not need to be said. Yet even after the horrific slaughter in Paris, there remains a distressing doubt about whether America’s commander in chief gets it.



President Obama has spent the last seven years trying to avoid the world as it is. He has put his intellect and rhetorical skills into the dishonorable service of assigning blame and fudging failure. If nuances were bombs, Islamic State would have been destroyed years ago.


He refuses to say “Islamic terrorism,” as if that would offend the peaceful Muslims who make up the vast bulk of victims. He rejects the word “war,” even as jihadists carry out bloodthirsty attacks against Americans and innocent peoples around the world.



Obama is blind to what is happening in the world.
He needs to go.

After 7 yrs still trying to undo his election. Sad...

 

[LeRoy_Was_Here]

I thought George W. Bush and Dick Cheney should have both resigned when it was revealed that America was torturing our prisoners.

But then we found out just how many Americans like you were actually pro-torture, and thought it sounded like a huge bunch of fun.

 

[Jen]

I remember when he said that. Paris is a gun free zone....now we see how much that helped them!! This attack (as the President of France said) is an act of war. It should be considered an act of war with all free countries! He wants to bring thousands here, with no way of vetting them....they've admitted it would be hard to know much about these people. He's putting all of us in danger. So far several states (mine included!) have said they won't allow them in. ALL states need to do this. Once they're here, they'll be able to travel all over the country.

Yes. It was an act of war.
NOT criminal activity as our president would have us believe.
He is putting us in danger for certain. My state is letting them in so far.......I hope that changes.

 

[marvin martian]

I thought George W. Bush and Dick Cheney should have both resigned when it was revealed that America was torturing our prisoners.

But then we found out just how many Americans like you were actually pro-torture, and thought it sounded like a huge bunch of fun.

I wasn't going to bother responding to your sad attempt to derail this thread with your ongoing, unhealthy obsession with George W. Bush, but then I saw you once again lied about another poster.

How about sticking to the topic, which is your president's typically pitiful, dangerous response to yet another mass murder attack by Islamic radicals on innocent people?

 

[LeRoy_Was_Here]

I wasn't going to bother responding to your sad attempt to derail this thread with your ongoing, unhealthy obsession with George W. Bush, but then I saw you once again lied about another poster.

How about sticking to the topic, which is your president's typically pitiful, dangerous response to yet another mass murder attack by Islamic radicals on innocent people?

I don't recall either you or Jen offering even the mildest criticism of our torture policies during the Bush/Cheney administration, and I have a memory like a steel trap.

If you have evidence to the contrary, why then, I invite you to post it.

It is simply untrue that Mr. Obama's response to the Paris attacks was 'tepid'. He issued a very strong statement of support for our French allies, offering whatever help they needed, both in investigating the attack and in hunting down the perpetrators. It is folks like you, Marvin, who have NO problem with lying. It all seems to be 'situational ethics' with you.

 

[Sickofleft]

I thought George W. Bush and Dick Cheney should have both resigned when it was revealed that America was torturing our prisoners.

But then we found out just how many Americans like you were actually pro-torture, and thought it sounded like a huge bunch of fun.

Now that's comedy. Pouring water on some ones head is torture? Ok , what is a drone strike leveling what passes for a city block in that part of the world to kill one or two people qualify as?

 

[Sickofleft]

After 7 yrs still trying to undo his election. Sad...

If only his election could be undone, but i give you credit you at least admit Obama has been President for 7yrs, with all the "Bush derangement syndrome" you would think he never left office.

But take care, since the end of WWII Obama is going to go down in history as the worst President we have had.

 

[LeRoy_Was_Here]

Now that's comedy. Pouring water on some ones head is torture? Ok , what is a drone strike leveling what passes for a city block in that part of the world to kill one or two people qualify as?

John McCain is an EXPERT on torture, and you are NOT. And Senator McCain says that waterboarding IS torture. Waterboarding is also EXPLICITLY banned by the Geneva Convention, as a simulated execution. But you don't care about America honoring its treaty obligations, do you?

As far as drone strikes are concerned, you apparently want to deprive America of its most significant technological advantage over the terrorists. Drone strikes do indeed kill some civilians, but they are nevertheless the most precise form of warfare yet developed. Kindly compare a typical drone strike that kills terrorists with the firebombing of entire cities during World War II. And, in SHARP contrast to torture, drone strikes are legal under international law.

Two strikes. One more and you're out.

 

[Sickofleft]

I don't recall either you or Jen offering even the mildest criticism of our torture policies during the Bush/Cheney administration, and I have a memory like a steel trap.

If you have evidence to the contrary, why then, I invite you to post it.

It is simply untrue that Mr. Obama's response to the Paris attacks was 'tepid'. He issued a very strong statement of support for our French allies, offering whatever help they needed, both in investigating the attack and in hunting down the perpetrators. It is folks like you, Marvin, who have NO problem with lying. It all seems to be 'situational ethics' with you.

His response to this is absurd, much like his Presidency it is just absolutely [Unwelcome language removed] absurd.

He should do all a favor and resign.

 

[LeRoy_Was_Here]

His response to this is absurd, much like his Presidency it is just absolutely [Unwelcome language removed] absurd.

He should do all a favor and resign.

Here is a tiny portion of President Obama's response to the Paris terror attacks:

President Obama on Monday stressed solidarity with the French people after deadly attacks rocked that nation and defended his administration's policy in fighting ISIS.

"ISIS is the face of evil," Obama said at the conclusion of the G20 summit in Antalya,Turkey. "Our goal is to... destroy this barbaric organization."

LeRoy: So I take it that you disagree with his assessment that "ISIS is the face of evil", and you think we should abandon our goal of wanting to "destroy this barbaric organization."

Should we chalk you up as an ISIS sympathizer?

 

[Sickofleft]

John McCain is an EXPERT on torture, and you are NOT. And Senator McCain says that waterboarding IS torture. Waterboarding is also EXPLICITLY banned by the Geneva Convention, as a simulated execution. But you don't care about America honoring its treaty obligations, do you?

As far as drone strikes are concerned, you apparently want to deprive America of its most significant technological advantage over the terrorists. Drone strikes do indeed kill some civilians, but they are nevertheless the most precise form of warfare yet developed. Kindly compare a typical drone strike that kills terrorists with the firebombing of entire cities during World War II. And, in SHARP contrast to torture, drone strikes are legal under international law.

Two strikes. One more and you're out.

That is [Unwelcome language removed] ridiculous.

I have no problems with drone strikes, what I do have a problem with is the moral preening of the self pretentious douche-bags of the world who thinks its better to wipe out whole blocks as opposed to pouring water on someones head.

You are NOT an expert on anything.

 

[Sickofleft]

Here is a tiny portion of President Obama's response to the Paris terror attacks:

President Obama on Monday stressed solidarity with the French people after deadly attacks rocked that nation and defended his administration's policy in fighting ISIS.

"ISIS is the face of evil," Obama said at the conclusion of the G20 summit in Antalya,Turkey. "Our goal is to... destroy this barbaric organization."

LeRoy: So I take it that you disagree with his assessment that "ISIS is the face of evil", and you think we should abandon our goal of wanting to "destroy this barbaric organization."

Should we chalk you up as an ISIS sympathizer?

Should we chalk you up as an ISIS sympathizer?

I don't give a shit what you chalk me up as, i chalked you up as an [Unwelcome language removed] years ago.

His goal is to destroy Isis? Really? The reality is he has done just enough so when people ask about it he can point to it and go were doing that. This Administration is a lot like Pavlov's dog right now, mention Isis and they all go "bombing".....right on Q.

They have done nothing, they are not contained, they are not losing power and he has failed miserably and is still failing miserably. His press conference in Turkey today was nothing short of pathetic.

 

[LeRoy_Was_Here]

That is [Unwelcome language removed] ridiculous.

I have no problems with drone strikes, what I do have a problem with is the moral preening of the self pretentious douche-bags of the world who thinks its better to wipe out whole blocks as opposed to pouring water on someones head.

You are NOT an expert on anything.

I see. So you think Senator John McCain is "[Unwelcome language removed] ridiculous".

I imagine you agree with Donald Trump that McCain ain't no real hero, either.

 

[Sickofleft]

I see. So you think Senator John McCain is "[Unwelcome language removed] ridiculous".

I imagine you agree with Donald Trump that McCain ain't no real hero, either.

Try and remain on topic professor.

Given the choice between waterboarding someone and blowing up a city block to kill one guy? Give me the bucket of water.

 

[Spamature]

If only his election could be undone, but i give you credit you at least admit Obama has been President for 7yrs, with all the "Bush derangement syndrome" you would think he never left office.

But take care, since the end of WWII Obama is going to go down in history as the worst President we have had.

Yeah because as we all know the worst presidents cut the UE rate in half and the deficit by 70% during their terms. They also save major industries that employ millions from going bankrupt while having the longest job creation streak in history. They are often in their 2nd terms on pace to have the 2nd best maybe even the best job creation record for any four year presidential term.

Now if you want to talk about terrorism. We can talk about that when they have an attack on our soil like they did during the last two presidencies. But that is WHEN because it hasn't happened as of yet and he took out the guy who did who did it the last time.

 

[LeRoy_Was_Here]

Try and remain on topic professor.

Given the choice between waterboarding someone and blowing up a city block to kill one guy? Give me the bucket of water.

You seem to be having a VERY hard time following the argument. Here, let me try again:

(1) Senator John McCain, who was tortured almost constantly while he was a POW in North Vietnam, says that waterboarding is UNQUESTIONABLY torture. He is right, and you are wrong.

(2) As a simulated execution, waterboarding is very explicitly banned by the Geneva Convention, a treaty to which the United States was one of the original signatory nations. So you are advocating that we simply thumb our collective noses at a treaty we signed in good faith, and thereby become a lawless, pariah, rogue nation.

(3) Drones do not blow up entire city blocks. They may pretty effectively destroy a single building, however. And if that building contains 20 or 30 terrorists, I say good riddance. You evidently think we should send in the Marines instead, on some suicide mission, to try to capture the terrorists. I disagree. Because I value the lives of our soldiers more than you do, apparently.

 

[Caroljo]

Yes. It was an act of war.
NOT criminal activity as our president would have us believe.
He is putting us in danger for certain. My state is letting them in so far.......I hope that changes.

It looks like it's up to 13 states now! This is GOT TO piss Obama off!